To want my family to pronounce ds2's name correctly?

[FrannyandZooey]

I am honestly not sure if I am. I feel like this is a big deal and want them to get it right, but they are all so convinced that their way is the right way, and it doesn't seem to matter what I say, that I am wondering...

It is a slightly unusual name that can be pronounced two ways. Not hard to say, at all.

If IANBU, how do I deal with this?

obviously they aren't fans of the cramp twins interestingly though his name is spelled LuciEn.

TBH i would've said lu-ci-an or lu-ci-en. It sound like an accent ting like c-ah-r and caaar

Ah, this is part of the reason DD has a fucked up hyphonated first name.

I hate Daniella being pronounced Dan-yella, so she is Dan ni-Ella but it doesn't really matter as she is know as Ella now anyway.

YANBU, as soon as I read 'Lucian' I read it as Loo-see-an but if I knew you I'd know it wasn't pronounced that way.

Families should have more respect, just keep reminding them. Say 'Lol, you keep calling him Lucien, one day you'll get it right' and explain the difference between the spellings.

This is why I decided against Lucia for DD. I knew she would be permanently called Loo-see-a and not Loo-chee-a.

I guess the problem is not so much them reading his name and getting it wrong but hearing it said repeatedly and still saying it wrong.
For example with Elfs daughter reading it for the first time I would have said Eve-lyn (my daughters middle name but knowing now that she says Ever-lyn I would stick with that. Its not hard to do and anyone who doesnt bother to make the effort is just rude.
So F&Z yanbu. (oh and I would have said Loo-shun as thats how its spelt.)

I suppose pronouncing Lucian is the same as the word Grecian. We would say Gree-shun rather than Gree-see-un.

mmmmm, still not heard of Loo-shun.

YANBU

I have this exact problem with my inlaws. DS's name is very simple but would be pronounced differently in the country we live in, however none of us are nationals of that country and we all speak english together so what's the problem with the english pronunciation?

I gave up correcting them after a while, and just use his name as much as possible in front of them. They just forget I think, dozy lot. Anyway, it is finally sinking in now, DS is 15 months old.

from what I have learnt been told all that jazz
everlyn is the correct spelling and pronounciation for a first name

eve-lyn spelt evelyn is a surname

and I should know as I have the surname version as one of my middle names

Has no-one seen the film, Gladiator, then?! The little lad in that is Loo-shun and that is how I would automatically say it.

The Norn Irish regularly pronounce Evelyn as Eve Lynn....v odd

Oh it's so irritating when people think they know best about OTHER PEOPLE'S names. My dad spent 3 years calling a boyfriend of mine 'air-rn' instead of 'ah-rn' and every time I corrected it my dad would say "no, he's wrong, if it's spelled Aaron it should be pronounced 'air-rn', not 'ah-rn'". Yes dad but HE pronounces his OWN NAME 'ah-rn' and youaresobloodyannoyingsometimes.

F&Z - YANBU. When you figure out a way to deal with it please have a word with my MIL who quite deliberately calls my children Lilah and Wolf, neither of which are their names, but she thinks they are better names than I chose.

Surely they're just being insolent if you've corrected them?

I'd have said it loo-she-un first off but having been corrected, I'd say loo-shun...

It's just polite to take note and try not to make the same mistake again, isn't it?!

I don't get why Evelyn would be pronounced Everlyn, there's no R in it. I would say it as Ev-linn, or ev e lyn.

Back tot eh OP though, if that's how you want it said, then thats how it should get pronounced. Ds2's name can be spelt a few different ways, and we do correct people, but shouldn't have to correct fmaily

I've known a few Evelyns, all pronounced Eve-lyn. I haven't known any Lucians, although I would initially pronounce it as Loo-se-un.

Either way, once I'd been told how the family were pronouncing it I'd always follow suit even if it wasn't the pronunciation I knew. It's rude to do anything else.

My sister's baby is called Isaac...pronounced Eye-zuc (kind of!) but my mum and other sister call him Eye-zAk....now I keep saying it wrong too.

Ah well...families eh? My adopted niece changed her name from Shannon to Elizabeth when she was 5- now that was tough to remember!!

F & Z, congrats on the new arrival - haven't been MNing much recently so a bit behind on these things. I've never heard of Loo-shen but I like it!

ABU - should have gave your child a proper name.

I would pronounce Lucien Loo-see-en.

And Evelyn Eve-lyn.

Unless told otherwise.

Loo-shun is very nice but doesn't seem to roll off my tongure very well when I say it IYSWIM, so they could just genuienly by forgeting and confused about the unusaul pronounciation.

I think he is going to get called Loo-see-en alot if I'm honest.

Franny could you (in a low key way) write his name down phonetically for them all, just as you have done for us. i.e. write down "Loo-Shun" and say firmly but nicely something like "it's annoying us a bit that you say ds's name wrong. We have written it down as it is pronounced to help you remember"

I sympathise in that our dd2 is known by an "informal" version of a more traditional name. However the traditional name is on her birth certificate so she can revert back to it when older if she would like to. One or two older relatives insist on her "real" name - she is only 13 months and would never look round if you said her "real" name.

I would pronounce Lucien LOOsee-un, and Lucian, well, I wouldn't be sure if it were the same as Lucien or like the pp says, like Grecian. So I can see that there is scope for confusion. Sorry, probably not the answer you were looking for.

But your family should get it right!!! That much you should be able to expect.

Odd
do people say Loo-see-arn-o Pavarotti then?

As I understand it, in most countries incl Spanish speaking , Ireland and the US, Evelyn is pronounced Ever lyn -(or everlina). But in UK, its Eve-Lyn.

tbh it is not their business if they want to pronounce it incorrectly. You and your dp have chosen a name and it is pronounced a certain way. It is not difficult imo, once they get used to it then they will always know him as "Loo-Shun" and the wrong way will seem a bit odd iykwim.

I worked with a woman called Carmel once, should have been pronounced "Car Mul" but many people called her "Car Mell".

To deliberately pronounce a name wrong (or call someone something that is not their known name) is a bit rude imo. Kind of saying to the parents that you have no respect for the name they have given to the child.

My default would be Loo-shan but as I think everyone on here agrees you get to decide. Once you have corrected them the family need to come to the party fgs.

Oh I know where you are coming from DD2 is 2 1/2 and is Talia (Tah-Lee-Ah) my Dad still cannot pronouce her name he calls her Tal-Yar

It got so bad at one stage we told him just to call her Tee-Tee which was what DD2 called her but it's getting embarrassing now no one calls her Tee-Tee anymore and still my Dad has trouble with her name, I mean everyone else is Talia this Talia that (or in my case Talia stop it) and he seems to find difficulty saying her name.

Won't be long though until she says Papa my name is Talia sort yourself out.

I would have said Loo-see-an as well and it wouldn't have occurred to me to pronounce it Loo-shun. However they are BU, they should be able to remember how you want it said...however he is still pretty new-born, I'm sure it will go in eventually....