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to think that my cousin has been greedy and moneygrabbing (sorry - long!)

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tinkerbel72 · 28/08/2008 11:38

Please bear with me on this, it needs some back story, but I would really appreciate views on this.
I have three cousins, let's call them A (female) B and C (males). I have two brothers. The cousins are on my father's side. My father (still alive) had a brother (cousins father, dead) and a sister (unmarried, now dead). Basically, my father's sister was a real cow, miserable old spinster who never got any joy out of life. At various points during her life she had imaginary fall outs with family members, and always threatened to cut people out of her will etc. Anyway, she died about 18 months ago, and left a will which must have been guaranteed to cause a family rift! She left a sum of £5000 to each of: me, my brothers, and cousins B and C. Her house, she left to cousin A. Cousin A had always been the 'favourite' niece, in fact, I don't think any of the nephews were particularly favoured (she didnt 'like' boys!!) though having said that, of course I am a niece, so obviously not as favoured as A! Anyway, the bottom line was that none of us as nephews or nieces were close to the woman, none of us lived near etc so the will was clearly very unfair. Cousin A, at the funeral, admitted this, and said that she would feel dreadful taking the house, and she made a speech to all the family saying she would sell the house (she was an executor of the will) and then everything would be split equally 6 ways ie between the cousins. Another reason this seemed fair to us all, was that the £5000 legacies were not money she had in addition to the value of the house; she had asked that the house be sold and then the £5000 each be given out of the proceeds, with the remainder going to cousin A. Taking the date of the will into account, we realised that in fact at the time of writing, this would have been more equitable ie the house at the time would have been worth only about 45k, so 25k would have gone to five cousins, and then 20k to cousin A - still not equal, but not the huge disparity considering the value of the house at the time of death. Now, 18 months on, the house has been sold for a sum of about 140k. Cousin A suddenly announces that she has had a change of mind, and she will give the other five cousins 10k each, and then keep the rest ie around 90k. The reason she gave is that her children have university costs, will want deposits for houses in the future etc - all very well, but all of us have children who would benefit from the money.I think cousin A is hugely embarrassed about it, having done a U turn, but obviously not embarrassed enough to not be greedy.
I am pretty pissed off, but not really sure how I should be responding. On the one hand, she has given the rest of us 10k each, when actually she could have got away with 5k, and she certainly hasnt acted unlawfully. She's followed the terms of the will, but it's a will that was clearly going to lead to conflict! What also grates a little is that my father is the closest living relative left to the woman anyway. Maybe that shouldnt make a difference, but if kind of makes it seem more of a kick in the teeth. I've talked it over with DH, and he thinks the best response is just to acknowledge the money with a curt note, but then stop any further contact with cousin A. We arent close, but keep in touch at Christmas, occasional meets etc. DH thinks I should be dignified and not start up a family row about it, but at the same time, make it clear through my actions that I think she's being selfish and greedy.
Now - if you've managed to get this far, well done, and please tell me what you think!!

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ninedragons · 28/08/2008 14:17

A curt note to acknowledge a 5 grand gift?

Jesus Christ Almighty. You sound ghastly.

You are trying to hold your cousin to something said off the cuff at a funeral (was it at the wake? Perhaps she had had a couple of drinks). Of course your cousin is a little sheepish about having backtracked from something she shouldn't have said in the first place. But you are being shockingly ungracious. YOUR COUSIN IS GIVING YOU FIVE THOUSAND POUNDS.

I hope she's a MNer and puts a stop on the cheque. I would.

ChippyMinton · 28/08/2008 14:18

Is it your late aunt or your cousin who is the 'disturbed family member'?

I truly think a lovely card, with a simple Thank You message would be appropriate, then say nothing more. After all, no-one has lost out have they?

TheHedgeWitch · 28/08/2008 14:18

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jesuswhatnext · 28/08/2008 14:18

tbh, it sounds like the aunt read her nearest and dearest quite well.

spicemonster · 28/08/2008 14:18

What about her behaviour is disturbed exactly? She changed her mind. If I were you I'd be very grateful she's giving you any extra at all

Fimbo · 28/08/2008 14:19

YOUR COUSIN HAS NOT BEHAVED IN A GREEDY WAY - SHE HAS GENEROUSLY GIVEN YOU AN EXTRA £5K MORE THAN THE WILL ACTUALLY STATED.

I AM ACTUALLY OFF THIS THREAD NOW AND NOT COMING BACK AND YES I AM SHOUTING. OK

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jesuswhatnext · 28/08/2008 14:21

btw - why did you go to this horrible, nasty, cruel old womans funeral, i'd be buggered if i'd waste my time going to funeral of someone i could'nt stand.

RubySlippers · 28/08/2008 14:22

nope - your cousin still hasn't been greedy

YOU are coming across as greedy

if i had been you, i would have been on the phone to my cousine shedding tears of gratitude for giving me an EXTRA £5k

your aunt's will is JUST that = her will ie what she wanted to happen

you can try and say it was luck that your cousin happened to me the one chosen to get the most - good for her!

i personally wouldn't want the pressure of splitting up money - i mean look where it gets you - someone complaining you have doubled their inheritance

tinkerbel72 · 28/08/2008 14:23

The aunt is the disturbed family member. I have given a few examples on other posts - eg abusive comments to our children.Hedgewitch - I have tried hard to explain my issue. Given the horrible life that my aunt led (whether this was due to mental health, personality, mixture of both)and given her bizarre will which at best was misguided and at worst, designed to stir up trouble, what WOULD have been the best thing to do in these circumstances? For my cousin ? And for the rest of the family??

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TheHedgeWitch · 28/08/2008 14:25

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gingerninja · 28/08/2008 14:25

You say she was disturbed but you haven't pinpointed anything that really suggests that. Clearly she didn't like her family. Ah how the women laughs now. I think it's a hoot and it's given me some ideas . Frankly I think you should give all your money to your dad, he sounds much more deserving but somehow I don't think you'll do that.

TwoIfBySea · 28/08/2008 14:27

I'm feeling really sorry for the dead aunt here.

You could always rise above it and not allow it to cause a rift.

Money always splits families. I feel for the cousin, she would have felt under immense pressure and generously gave an extra £5k to you all.

I wish I had family like that! No, if this had happened in my family (and it sort of did) you'd get bruised in the scrum to grab as much as possible - now that is a real reason to be disgusted by kin, not this.

tinkerbel72 · 28/08/2008 14:29

ginger - I have pointed out examples of how she made nasty comments to her great nephews and nieces - eg mocking one because she was a redhead, another because of his big nose, another because he didnt achieve well at school. This was a woman in her 60s, talking to children of age 10, 12 etc. Do you not find that disturbing? Making children feel humiliated?

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tamarto · 28/08/2008 14:30

Your cousin should have kept the will as it was and given you all the £5000 you were left and the rest of the family should have accepted it gracefully then felt free to give it away, as you so clearly don't want the money.

2beornot2be · 28/08/2008 14:31

I can imagine that when your cousin said that she would spilt the will equally were most likely putting a lot of pressure on her

Good on your cousin for giving u all 5k more me now I would of told ya to Fuck ya selfs espeically because your not close and I would of gone on a 6wk holiday with the money of course sending u lots of photos and post cards telling you how much fun I was having and brought a nice flash car which I would of parked out side ya house and laughed at ya.

tamarto · 28/08/2008 14:32

Seriously if she was that bad GIVE ALL THE MONEY AWAY, if i felt my aunt was that bad there is no way i would accept any money from the will.

2beornot2be · 28/08/2008 14:33

O my Grandma was the same as your Aunt she always mocked us as children but she was just old and she did the same left more money to her boys rather than the females in the family even thou my Mother made a 30mile journey day in and day out to look after but my Mother accepted my Grandma's choice and didnt fall out with anyone in her family.

tinkerbel72 · 28/08/2008 14:34

TwoIfBySea - I think you make a good point. My aunt has been manipulative to the end and in some ways my cousin has maybe been the biggest victim. To put this kind of pressure on her was horrid. I dont know how her brothers are reacting to it; at least as a cousin living hundreds of miles away I dont have to see her at family gatherings etc!

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tinkerbel72 · 28/08/2008 14:36

Actually some of your posts are tempting me... 6 week holiday sounds rather nice!!

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Dropdeadfred · 28/08/2008 14:37

But Tinkbel2 you are still making your cousin out to be nasty!!??

BloodySmartarse · 28/08/2008 14:38

your cousins done nothing wrong!

cant believe you cant see that!

tinkerbel72 · 28/08/2008 14:40

I really disagree with the U turn DropDead. As I have explained countless times! I think it was wrong to sit down and discuss with us all and agree one thing (which was all her suggestion - she could have just stuck to the will) and then down the line do something different.

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jesuswhatnext · 28/08/2008 14:40

so this old bag humiliated your children and you STLL went to her funeral?

what were you expecting?

Bumdiddley · 28/08/2008 14:40

tinkerbel72...blah blah blah. You're just making noise now.

Not only are you unreasonable but bloody boring too