to think this woman is a cow? (topic may offend/upset)

[crazybuslady]

Was waiting for a bus yesterday, while at bus stop I saw a mother, dd (approx age 4) and grandma come to bus stop, had seen them earlier walking down the street.

DD didnt want to go on the bus she was crying saying she wanted to stay with granny. Mother mentioned to granny than dd was tired - hadnt slept that day. Mother started to wind the child up eg "you ARE going on the bus"..."noooo mummy dont want to" ..."well you are so there!"

Petty back and forth argument which was frankly rediculas, dd tried to walk away from the bus stop, the mother turned it in to an almost game, mother was laughing and chasing her but shouting swear words at her and telling her she was going to "batter you when we get in" I was Then heard a whack, and looked round to see the mum hit the child 2x. Child started sobbing - from her point of view mum was chasing her laughing next min she was being hit)

Now hittings not to my taste, but I realise some people do this so I just tried to look away - small bus stop though so not really possible.

Child was then wingey (was being ignored by mum who only spoke to her to swear at her) Child then said "I am NOT goin on bus I want to go to grannys" (I though no fekking wonder) And the mother literally dragged dd by her arm along ground. DD fell to ground sobbing, mother grabbed her collar and lifted her up by it shouting and swearing and whacked her 5 more times.

At this point bus came, I told woman if she hit her dd in my sight once more id call police. (Now in retrospect I shouldnt have said that, I should have just called, but I was furious and not thinking straight) We got on same bus mother told me to "fucking go ahead then"...so I did. (mother was now dragging child up bus by arm, I dont mean pulling I mean literally dragging, then whacking her again when she wouldnt sit on seat.

Police car was sent right away but didnt arrive in time before she got off the bus I gave a description etc. But as she got off woman threatened to "batter my face in, if she hadnt got the child with her" (I felt like saying go on then, Id rather take the pain than a poor child, then you will go to prison, child will go to foster care and be better off)

I wish Id followed them, police didnt get them If I ever see them again will phone again.

If she does that in public wtf does she do at home.

Crazybuslady, if I ever witness anything like that, I hope that I have the guts to do what you did.

Yes donnylass - my instinct was to just pick him up and take him home - what on earth would I have done once he was home with me though?

My kids were full of questions - why, deosn't she love him, what did he do wrong, what will happen now the police have got her, does anyone love him, where's his daddy? I drove him with a choked throat. Poor poor kid.

you just have to hope that somebody loves them.i dont know how my dh would have turned out if it wasnt for his dad and his gran

i do believe there is a difference between an otherwise loving parent snapping at a child when they are at the end of their tether,i think most of us can empathise there,and a parent who blatantly assaults a child in broad daylight.i wouldnt hesitate to call the police in the op's shoes.

I dont believe the OP should of rung the police ,it clearly didnt appear to do any good . What she should of done is tell the women that her sister worked on the jeremy kyle show and that they were doing a programme about challenging kids and thought she would be ideal for it ,mentioning the free bar and a night in a premier travel lodge would have sold it to her , got her mobile number and name and address so the shows producer could contact her and then gone home and rung social services and dobbed her in good and proper . Does that sound judgey , oh good

sounds like abuse to me - OTT simple abuse. you don't drag a child along the ground, pick it up by its collar swear at it and them smack it HARD 7 times. Bearing in mind, everyone, that this nutter KNOWS everyone is watching. What does she do at home behind closed doors? why did she call her own DD a little bitch ffs? good for you buslady, more people need to stand up and speak out. I like to think someone might approach me if I was OTT yelling at my children - it would make me take a step back. Look at all the dead children where everyone turned a blind eye - like everyone else at that bus stop. Next time phone the police but don't let on you have.

What the woman did was WRONG
but that doesn't mean she doesn't need help. That's not being pc that's just obvious imo. Very very sad for daughter and mother. I don't know there is a 'right' thing to do in this situation as sadly no quick action can sort this out but at least OP made mother realise that her behaviour was veiwed as wrong by others. If the little girl grows up and does the same to her child it would be wrong obviously but perhaps we could understand why. Maybe she can be helped to parent better (and feel better herself) or maybe she can't and the child would be better elsewhere but I think it's more complex than just calling her a bully/ nutter etc.

YANBU!

tengreenbottles, social services would have called the police! There is no way you can inform one without the other being involved! Would you have called the adult protection team if you saw a woman being beaten in the same way by her husband?

Can someone PLEASE tell me why this is acceptable from a parent when it wouldn't be if it was a grown-up child/elderly parent, husband/wife or even father/child?