Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to expect my adult son to move out so I can finally live the life I've always dreamed of?

286 replies

YourUmberOP · Today 09:28

AIBU to expect my adult son to move out so I can finally live the life I've always dreamed of?

I'm after some honest opinions because I'm increasingly frustrated with the situation and wondering whether I'm being unreasonable.

A bit of background. I've worked continuously since I was 16. I've never had a gap year, never had that period of freedom to just go and explore the world and do the things I've always wanted to do. I've always put everyone else first, or something life threw at us has taken priority.

Living by the coast, having a boat and being able to sail and explore Europe has been my dream since I was six years old. This isn't some recent midlife crisis or a whim I've suddenly developed. My late husband and I always planned to do this together. It was something we'd always talked about and intended to make happen.

My husband died four years ago. That's really the only thing that's changed about the dream. I still want the same life, even though my world has fundamentally changed.

My son is 20, nearly 21, lives at home and works full-time. He earns around £2,000 a month after tax. I've explained that I want to relocate and that he needs to start making plans to get his own place. This isn't news to him; we've been discussing it for months.

His only regular fixed outgoings are car insurance (£160) and a phone contract (£40), plus the usual costs of maintaining and running his car. I charge him £300 a month board, which I've actually been putting into a savings account for him. He doesn't know about this, as I want him to have a little nest egg when he eventually moves out.

Even allowing for fuel, food (which I buy all his meals to take to work anyway) and personal spending, he has considerable scope to save. He has £1,500 each month after his fixed bills and board. We're now four months down the line and he's saved virtually nothing.

i personally earn about the same as him so I know how to make money stretch.

There seems to be no urgency, no real plans and no apparent recognition that he needs to start taking responsibility for his own future. I appreciate that I shouldn't be the one saving for him, but equally I'm trying to make sure he has a decent start when he does leave home.

I understand that renting is expensive and that moving out for the first time can be daunting. I'm not expecting him to buy a house or live in luxury. A room in a shared house would be a perfectly reasonable starting point.

I, on the other hand, have very little tying me to where I currently live. I moved here 12 years ago for my husband's work. I have no real friends here, I hate my job and there are very limited alternative employment opportunities locally.

Most of our friends were through my husband's work and, since he passed away, we rarely speak or meet socially. I feel like I'm in a bit of a hole here.

My son is settled. He has lots of friends locally through school and work and understandably doesn't want to relocate with me. I understand that, and I'm not expecting him to give up his social life and move somewhere he doesn't want to live. But I don't think his preference to stay here should automatically mean I have to stay here too.

There's another reason I feel quite strongly about doing this sooner rather than later. My parents are getting older. Realistically, I know there may come a point in the next 5–10 years when I'll have caring responsibilities for them. I want to make the most of the time I have now, while I'm still young enough, fit enough and able to sail, travel and explore.
If I put everything off for another five or ten years, I could easily find myself having spent my entire adult life looking after everybody else, only to reach a point where I'm too old or have too many responsibilities to do the things I've dreamed about since childhood.

It sometimes feels as though I've spent my entire adult life fulfilling responsibilities and putting other people's needs first. I don't want to reach retirement age having never actually lived the life I've spent decades dreaming about.
I don't want to spend my life waiting for the next family responsibility to finish before I'm allowed to start living.

I love my son and I'm not looking to abandon him. But he's an adult, he's earning a decent wage and I think it's reasonable to expect him to start building an independent life.

I've worked since I was 16, raised my child, dealt with losing my husband and kept everything going. I see this next chapter as my opportunity to have the gap year or two I've never had.

So AIBU to say that I'm moving ahead with my plans and that he needs to make alternative living arrangements, rather than continuing to put my life on hold because he hasn't bothered to save?
At what point do you stop organising your life around your adult children and start living it for yourself?
And more importantly, how do I actually get this message across to him? Do I set a firm deadline and stick to it, regardless of whether he's saved enough? What do I do if that deadline arrives and he still hasn't made any effort?

I genuinely don't know whether I'm being unreasonable, whether I'm expecting too much or whether I just need to accept that it's time to put myself first.

I suppose that's why I'm asking the internet!

OP posts:
Upsetbetty · Today 10:10

Can you Sail @YourUmberOP? Do you have a course completed? Like a navigation course? Do you know how to read charts etc
can you fix a bilge pump or parts of an engine?
how are you with plumbing etc?
can you read the weather and understand tidal waters
do you know how to handle a VHF?

I’m not asking to be patronising but these are some basic things you will need to do if sailing around Europe? if you do then great YANBU. Tell your ds your plan and get going.

Momon45 · Today 10:11

I was with you until you mentioned his age ! I think we all do things for others as it's part of being a nice human . You sound resentful and as if you've been dragged along in life with no say but presumably you wanted to he married and have a child ?

Happyjoe · Today 10:12

Whenwhich · Today 09:55

Start the process. Get the estate agents in, start looking where you want to relocate, make it real and give him a timescale, I wonder at this stage whether he really thinks you’re serious about going through with it, or he’s burying his head in the sand.

This 100%.

He's probably heard about your dream for many years that he simply doesn't think it's going to happen any time soon.. time to show with actions rather than words.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · Today 10:13

Agree with PP. 20 is young these days to move out, even if he had gone to uni with no gao year he would have another year to go and then be back while he looked for a job. I'd be looking to hang on for another year if possible. If and when you do it though, I'd just tell him you're putting the house on the market on x date and do it.

I wouldn't show him this thread or include everything in the conversation as he could interpret it as you have resented looking after him / putting him first, which is what most parents do. It's fine to explain that you're not happy living in this area and think you'll only have a few years before caring responsibilities so need to make the most of your health and freedom while you have them.

As others have said would be useful to know if you're planning on selling up or if there are any other options eg renting out your room

Agree also you need to sit down and do a proper budget with him and help him make plans to save otherwise it will be a huge shock when he does move out and can't afford any furniture or anything else

themarvelofmarvels · Today 10:13

YANBU, but if you want it you need to just do it. If you wait for him to move out it will never happen.

Put the house on the market and help your son look at rental places. Offer to pay the first months rent and deposit for him if you can afford it.

IAxolotlQuestions · Today 10:14

I would plan things out (so you know what you’ll do and how to fund it) and wait until he’s 22. He’ll feel more secure, and you can tell him it’s happening so he has a long lead time.

Talk about how he can come and visit you on your travels for holidays, all the things you want to see, ask him for suggestions, etc (so make it something he’s got a stake in, not something happening to him or his mum abandoning him).

Yes you should travel, yes you should live your life while you have the drive, money and health. But it’s all in the presentation.

SunshineOnARainyLeith · Today 10:18

NewNameW · Today 09:53

If your plans are to travel, can't he rent the house instead?

Good idea

Nevermind31 · Today 10:18

Son, the house is on the market, I have found a new job, and am moving. You can move with me, or you can stay here independently, that is your choice.

DotDotDoorDash · Today 10:19

It’s absolutely ridiculous the amount of babying that’s going on in these comments. Let your DS know that you’ve been saving for him and let him know he needs to start making plans to move out. Giving him another FOUR YEARS is absolutely crazy when you’ve said this is your very short window to have the life you’ve been dreaming of. You’re hardly casting him out to live penniless on the street.

Luckyingame · Today 10:20

YANBU. I hear you. Do it as soon as you can. 😊

ItsNotMeEither · Today 10:22

This is a tough one because your 20 year old would only have been 15 or 16 when he lost his dad, and now his mum wants him out.

I need more information. Can you sail? Do you own a boat? What are some of the details of this.

How many bedrooms in your current home? Can your son stay while you put your personal items in storage, rent out the other rooms and go travelling?

Just wondering if there are some middle ground options here.

AnybodyAnywhere · Today 10:23

Just tell him that you’re moving and give him the option of going with you or staying.
You’re not being unreasonable at all but he sounds like he needs a bit of a push start.

BillieWiper · Today 10:23

Your son's father died when he was young? That must have been awful for him. And you of course. It does sometimes make it harder for kids to grow independent quickly.

I'm fully supportive of you doing what you like. But if your son wants to still live with you and he's willing to pay board could that not be discussed? You could say he must pay market rate (or maybe mates rates but more than 300pm)? Then you could get a lodger in future if you wanted when he's gone?

I guess the alternative is simply putting your foot down and saying you're getting a smaller place. I don't know if I'd feel happy if I was him and he wasn't ready to leave yet..but it is ultimately your decision.

If he gets 2000 a month take home, then with rent on his own flat and bills on top he won't have much left to live on.

BeDeepOP · Today 10:23

I read this and it made me remember how I felt growing up.
My DF was very strict (domineering?) and he made it clear that he expected me and DB to leave home at 18 or 21 at latest. He thought that was the norm.
I went to uni at 18 but circumstances meant that I was forced to move home at 23/24.
It was only because I had no other choice.
I didn't feel welcome and it wasn't a happy time.
My DH on the other hand only left home at 27. His DM always made it clear that he and his DB had a home for life if needed, it was their home, etc.
I have always felt this is something important and provided a security I never had.
I now have DC and one DS is just 22.
He has started a career and earns about what I do.
He doesn't want to move out and because of my DF's attitude, I will never pressure him.
I have told him this is his home until he decides that he wants to move.
Honestly I would hate to give my DC a deadline to move out and you need to anticipate that if they move into rented/ HMO,etc there's a very real possibility that he may need to move back.

Skyflier · Today 10:23

on one hand I’m not sure I could have asked any of my sons to leave home at 20 but now they have I am caring for elderly parents and feel like you do, that I’ve spent my best years caring for other people, but I chose to have my children and felt I should be there for them for as long as they need me.
Can you give your son a timeline that you expect him to have found a flat by? Then he knows you are serious and gives him time to find something suitable?

Hedgehogspikes · Today 10:24

I think there's a vast difference between being capable of being independent and choosing to move out at 21yo, and being kicked out so that your mum can live her dream, which involves being a long way away from you, especially when you lost your father young too.

Honestly, I really surprised how blasé so many posters are being. I really think this would irreparably damage him, and your relationship.

Oioiqueen · Today 10:24

Are you needing the sale of the house to fund what you need to do? If not can't you rent it out to him and go ahead? You've given him 4 months, explain you'll be selling or moving out after Christmas depending on the money situation.

My feeling is that you've already told him what you want to do. Yes 21 is a bit young however there are many people finishing university at that age and moving into HMOs after securing a job anywhere in the country. It can be done, but as you've already saved a bit for him this would in theory be your sons deposit sorted.

Holding on to your life dreams to continue as you are runs the risk that you'll never get to do it. Doesn't take much to suddenly be out of work or your own ill health to derail those plans let alone your future caring responsibilities. Honestly life is too short, go live those dreams.

Frostynoman · Today 10:24

I would be upping his board only to ensure he’s saving via you doing it and yes I would forge ahead with your plans. If you need to sell then do so and if he can rent the house from you then I would let him, with a formal agreement and a means of removal if he doesn’t pay rent..(!)

Missey85 · Today 10:27

Go live your dream! ❤️❤️❤️ Enjoy life while you can 🙂 he works full-time he can get his own place

susiedaisy1912 · Today 10:27

I was expecting to read that your son was nearly 30 not only 20 years old. Good grief he’s still a young adult you can’t just dump your parenting responsibilities because he’s got a job. At least relocate but with a room for him so he can follow you if he wants to.

caringcarer · Today 10:27

You are being perfectly reasonable and have valid reasons why you want to move now. As your DS is 20 personally I'd give him another year but I'd set him a savings target of £500 pcm into a savings account. He has to realise he's getting older and is an adult now even if a young adult. Tell him you want him to save £500 pcm every month for the next 6 months. Tell him he'll need a deposit on a room in a shared house or he could rent a 2 bedroom flat/house with a friend/gf. Tell him you are making plans to move. It can take up to 6 months to sell a house so tell him he has 6 months be saving to move out.

Missey85 · Today 10:28

Hedgehogspikes · Today 10:24

I think there's a vast difference between being capable of being independent and choosing to move out at 21yo, and being kicked out so that your mum can live her dream, which involves being a long way away from you, especially when you lost your father young too.

Honestly, I really surprised how blasé so many posters are being. I really think this would irreparably damage him, and your relationship.

His 21 not a baby time for him to look after himself!

FirmSnake · Today 10:28

He's still very young, I'm not surprised he isn't in a rush to help his mum moves miles away.
My parents moved away when I was 19, DB was 18. It was very hard for us.

Babyyourafirework · Today 10:29

Would you mind if he moves with you?

hypnovic · Today 10:29

I think 20 is as still quite young to push them out of the nest if they are not ready to go yet. All parents have care responsibility thats kind of the deal. Ultimately your choice.