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Parents faking poverty and not buying dc gifts

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FakeFinances · Today 08:17

for some reason approx 6 years ago my parents decided to stop all gifts for birthday Easter and Christmas. They said they just didn’t have the money to do them for the GC. Fine.

Excpet it’s 1. Not true that they can’t afford it and 2. They still buy gifts etc for both my sisters dc???

Everytime I go to see them they openly show me expensive new things, tell me about the cruises and holidays booked and talk finances (positively) then in the same visit they’ll say they have no money so sorry there’s no cake to have with coffee and reiterate that’s why they don’t do gifts anymore???

I have found out that they have still given gifts to all their other GC (I have 2 sisters) and I’m shocked ? When I asked them about it all they said they would not be speaking to me anymore as I was ‘money grabbing’ ? They haven’t spoken to me for 3 months now.

We hadn’t fallen out prior to this I genuinely believed when they first started this that they had just decided no more gifts ? I have 2 dc, my sisters have 6 between them.

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TurtleMcTurtle · Today 13:34

Have you done ancestry DNA or similar?

There’s a similar situation in our extended family. It was discovered that one child was born from an affair and they & their DC have basically been ejected from the family ever since. We still see them, but they were dropped like a hot stone by many, it was truly bizarre to witness, especially as the family didn’t want to reveal the affair, so the adult DC (affair child) was blamed for the fallout 🙄

AbouttimeIhadanewusername · Today 13:40

TurtleMcTurtle · Today 13:34

Have you done ancestry DNA or similar?

There’s a similar situation in our extended family. It was discovered that one child was born from an affair and they & their DC have basically been ejected from the family ever since. We still see them, but they were dropped like a hot stone by many, it was truly bizarre to witness, especially as the family didn’t want to reveal the affair, so the adult DC (affair child) was blamed for the fallout 🙄

There is no point doing a DNA test unless her parents or siblings do one too.

MaggieBsBoat · Today 13:43

This is truly odd. You need to cut them all off completely and then have some therapy to help you recover from them. You will not get the answers you need from them.

ThisLivelyRaven · Today 13:53

Something poignant happened 6 years ago, something you’ve done, something someone has said (true or false) to make them think you’re a money grabber! You need to ask them outright what it is? If you don’t get a clear fair answer, then think it’s time to cut the cords and walk away

caringcarer · Today 13:55

I'd cut them off so they didn't damage my DC. It sounds as if they hate you and by extension your DC. They are toxic.

SockPlant · Today 14:01

AnotherAnnie · Today 12:08

Dear OP, please don't disown your family. This isn't the USA where people cut ties more often.

Maybe just go gentle, accept thier low contact. Perhaps be kind. Pass on how cool your mum is on mothers day on your Facebook or whatever.Send them, your sisters, and their kids unreciprocated gifts without comment and just be kind.

"A gift demands a gift" is an ancient human thing, and it is likely they will eventually feel the warmth of it. Or perhaps the children may in the future, allowing the cousins to be family later in life. Let actions heal what they hurt, without blame that could entrench their defences.

It will also make it hard to argue you chose to disown them so they can feel good about cutting you out. And it shows your children by example that whatever the extended family model love is not conditional in their home.

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no. Why be kind to people who aren't kind to you?

"be kind" is a way to try to force people to swallow their feelings in case they mae the people making them uncomfortable get an easy ride. It is a big part of current social problems.

I too would put money on OPs father being a different one to her sisters.

FakeFinances · Today 14:03

Ponoka7 · Today 10:36

@FakeFinances I , like a pp, wondered if you were your Dad's biological child. However, ehat happened during Covvid, because that's when they fell out with you. Did you stick to the rules and stay away, while they mixed? Are you having no contact with DN? Or your children no contact with cousins? If not and they are all in on it, I'd be distancing myself and getting on DNA sites. I know a few people who've found they didn't have the father they thought. If you are going to cut contact, tell them straight first.

I’m 99.9% sure he’s my dad as I look like him !
I can’t think of anything (except Covid) that happened 6 years ago.

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FakeFinances · Today 14:03

Dh is white so it’s not anything to do with racism / reform type views

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Janetwin · Today 14:04

shhblackbag · Today 08:50

I was a grandchild who was treated differently by one side of the family. I definitely noticed, and it stayed with me. I didn’t understand why. I also had to watch it upset my parents, especially my mother. No contact would have been kinder and easier for everyone, at least in the long run.

Oh dear. I can imagine my kids writing a post like that at some point in the future. My mother fawns over my nieces and nephews and has no time for mine - as my kids nervously put it once “granny x likes her space”. I turned a blind eye to it for years but once my kids noticed, I had to reduce the visits to my hometown. It’s kinda heartbreaking

NotSmallButFunSize · Today 14:04

FakeFinances · Today 08:30

It’s things like the ‘sorry it’s just a coffee or tea as we couldnt afford cake’ then i was seeing on fb my sisters posting ‘afternoon tea with mum’ posts and her replying she loves to treat her girls ? I won’t lie it hurt but it’s just the confusion.

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I don't think I could stop myself going "well not surprised as you're always on bloody holiday and out for afternoon tea!"

Janetwin · Today 14:08

AnotherAnnie · Today 12:08

Dear OP, please don't disown your family. This isn't the USA where people cut ties more often.

Maybe just go gentle, accept thier low contact. Perhaps be kind. Pass on how cool your mum is on mothers day on your Facebook or whatever.Send them, your sisters, and their kids unreciprocated gifts without comment and just be kind.

"A gift demands a gift" is an ancient human thing, and it is likely they will eventually feel the warmth of it. Or perhaps the children may in the future, allowing the cousins to be family later in life. Let actions heal what they hurt, without blame that could entrench their defences.

It will also make it hard to argue you chose to disown them so they can feel good about cutting you out. And it shows your children by example that whatever the extended family model love is not conditional in their home.

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“Send them, your sisters, and their kids unreciprocated gifts without comment”.

Thats some very odd advice. Are you one the mum of the OP or one of the sisters?

Janetwin · Today 14:12

ThisLivelyRaven · Today 13:53

Something poignant happened 6 years ago, something you’ve done, something someone has said (true or false) to make them think you’re a money grabber! You need to ask them outright what it is? If you don’t get a clear fair answer, then think it’s time to cut the cords and walk away

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I agree. She needs to ask what happened.
I would be tempted to tell OP to “find her anger” but that family sound like they’d use it against her and then she’ll never get answers. I’d suggest instead to cushion the question of what happened in a nicely nicely message along the lines of “I miss hanging out with you and the kids miss their granny, aunts and cousins”. Make it look like you’re open to hearing their side of the story and then try to decipher their responses.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Today 14:13

I wouldn’t have anything further to do with them.

It’s clear they enjoy playing favourites and putting you in your place. Sounds like they want you to feel bad. Don’t expose your children to this.

Databreach · Today 14:27

I’ve no tolerance for this kind of bullshit. Cut them off and don’t look back.

BigSuse · Today 14:29

They have obviously taken offence to something you did or said (which to you was probably nothing) perhaps they misunderstood something, either way they sound awful so I’d just back away and leave them to it.

AutumnLover1999 · Today 14:32

NotSmallButFunSize · Today 14:04

I don't think I could stop myself going "well not surprised as you're always on bloody holiday and out for afternoon tea!"

I would have to say something similar too.

TheAbsentRoyalUmberella · Today 14:32

AbouttimeIhadanewusername · Today 13:40

There is no point doing a DNA test unless her parents or siblings do one too.

Are you allowed to get a hair sample without someone consent and do a test

CurtainTV · Today 14:33

AnotherAnnie · Today 12:08

Dear OP, please don't disown your family. This isn't the USA where people cut ties more often.

Maybe just go gentle, accept thier low contact. Perhaps be kind. Pass on how cool your mum is on mothers day on your Facebook or whatever.Send them, your sisters, and their kids unreciprocated gifts without comment and just be kind.

"A gift demands a gift" is an ancient human thing, and it is likely they will eventually feel the warmth of it. Or perhaps the children may in the future, allowing the cousins to be family later in life. Let actions heal what they hurt, without blame that could entrench their defences.

It will also make it hard to argue you chose to disown them so they can feel good about cutting you out. And it shows your children by example that whatever the extended family model love is not conditional in their home.

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Maybe just go gentle, accept thier low contact. Perhaps be kind. Pass on how cool your mum is on mothers day on your Facebook or whatever.Sendthem, your sisters, and their kids unreciprocated gifts without comment and just be kind.

OP do not do this

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · Today 14:34

FakeFinances · Today 14:03

I’m 99.9% sure he’s my dad as I look like him !
I can’t think of anything (except Covid) that happened 6 years ago.

But it could have been something that happened between your parents that you weren't privy to.

Notonmyland · Today 14:34

Bin them off.
You don't need toxic shite in your life.

Agrumpyknitter · Today 14:35

I think at this point in time you have to accept them for who your parents are as they clearly treat you all differently with no explanation. Start practising detaching yourself and your family from them and go low contact. It will help you manage the hurt in the long term. My parents are divorced and I was very low contact with my father who kept making horrible and cruel comments about me every time we met so I just spoke to him less and less. You can’t change them but you can change the way you react to them.

It will hurt but in the long term you will find you no longer care as much. We’re born into families but sometimes they don’t always deserve our love and respect if they can be cruel and unkind.

Worstoffenders · Today 14:35

You don’t like them but seem to spend a lot of time with them and have your children around them a lot. Strange

seahorsessky · Today 14:36

I'd talk to them and ask. Have you treated them differently, or do they feel you have? It's fine not to buy gifts, or for them to consider themselves poor even if you disagree, but it's the unequal treatment that is an issue here. You see posts where people exclude one set of grandparents and then complain when they react, so is there something like this? Or do they think there is?

CurtainTV · Today 14:36

C8H10N4O2 · Today 13:22

Well they put petrol in the car and the OP wasn't expecting to pay for it judging by their reaction to be presented with the receipt. I'm not sure how different that is in practice.

I'm also not sure what relevance their voting habits have other than to paint them in a negative light (for MN). As for having more rules - well every eldest child will say this, its the norm. Asking about age gaps might be a common question from a child but its also reasonable not to answer - it is personal information which not everyone wants to share.

If the DGP are treating one set of children negatively overall compared to the other grandchildren that is enough to spend less effort on them in return.

However the OP has only talked in terms of monetary relationship and that is only one factor and probably the least important when it comes to family relationships. You can have a great relationship with children and grandchildren without money (except on MN where its a dominating factor) - we have heard nothing about the other aspects of their relationships with the GDC or DC, only the monetary relationship.

She didn’t want petrol put in the car. Are you happy for people to buy things on your behalf that you didn’t ask for, and demand money back? That’s odd.

Worstoffenders · Today 14:36

I have found out that they have still given gifts to all their other GC (I have 2 sisters) and I’m shocked

you must be NC or very LC with your sisters for the past 6 years?