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Shocked that no one helped the girl on the train

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Ohhh1 · Yesterday 14:37

14 year old SA in trained

I am being unreasonable in think people need to stop being so absorbed on their phones whilst out in public. It seems no one helpped this child whilst she was being raped because they were too busy on their phones.

Autistic girl, 14, 'sexually assaulted on train by Afghan migrants'

Baryalai Rahimi, 25, and Mirebadurahman Sadat, 29, are said to have spotted the runaway teenager at a station in rural Kent before following her onto the London-bound train on February 5.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16264873/afghan-migrants-schoolgirl-14-raping-train-toilets.html

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ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 18:58

Beeloux · Yesterday 18:55

Uhm, maybe because there is a higher proportion of white British males in this country than refugees? 🤔

Recently in my small northern town, a refugee attempted to rape a woman and a few streets away, one living in an HMO was exposing himself outside the local primary school. These are just recent cases.

Were the grooming gangs all made up by the DM aswell?

I’ve lived in numerous Islamic counties and was married to an Arab. Very often, European woman are seen as easy bait. Other nationalities too.

I’m sure you’re aware of the disgusting laws against woman in Afghanistan? It doesn’t take much common sense that many of these men will not integrate into a western society.

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This.

CakeAndEats · Yesterday 19:01

Beeloux · Yesterday 18:55

Uhm, maybe because there is a higher proportion of white British males in this country than refugees? 🤔

Recently in my small northern town, a refugee attempted to rape a woman and a few streets away, one living in an HMO was exposing himself outside the local primary school. These are just recent cases.

Were the grooming gangs all made up by the DM aswell?

I’ve lived in numerous Islamic counties and was married to an Arab. Very often, European woman are seen as easy bait. Other nationalities too.

I’m sure you’re aware of the disgusting laws against woman in Afghanistan? It doesn’t take much common sense that many of these men will not integrate into a western society.

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I don't get these people

saveforthat · Yesterday 19:02

TheLastSilverSaint · Yesterday 15:20

Do you think it's the government's fault when white British men rape kids, too?

Because that happens a great deal more often than kids being raped by refugees. There will be hundreds more sex crimes committed by white British men than by Afghan refugees.

The Daily Mail wouldn't even bother reporting this case if the defendants were British, and if they did, they'd totally be blaming the victim. They only give a shit about women and girls when it gives them a chance to stir up racist reactions.

This old chestnut. Of course there are more white rapists, there are more white men in the UK. Proportionately so called refugees commit more crime than UK nationals.

Whammyammy · Yesterday 19:03

Beeloux · Yesterday 18:55

Uhm, maybe because there is a higher proportion of white British males in this country than refugees? 🤔

Recently in my small northern town, a refugee attempted to rape a woman and a few streets away, one living in an HMO was exposing himself outside the local primary school. These are just recent cases.

Were the grooming gangs all made up by the DM aswell?

I’ve lived in numerous Islamic counties and was married to an Arab. Very often, European woman are seen as easy bait. Other nationalities too.

I’m sure you’re aware of the disgusting laws against woman in Afghanistan? It doesn’t take much common sense that many of these men will not integrate into a western society.

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Spot on. I cant understand why a posters are indirectly and directly defending someone that raced an autistic child, a CHILD!

AnswerIsNo · Yesterday 19:04

its a fucking grim and traumatic event that no one of any age should endure, while disturbing on a wider level

at the same time, dickheads on here are just cheapening that girl's ordeal
by turning it into an immigrants v racists point-scoring competition

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:05

saveforthat · Yesterday 19:02

This old chestnut. Of course there are more white rapists, there are more white men in the UK. Proportionately so called refugees commit more crime than UK nationals.

No they don’t.

Please share where you got this statistic because that’s simply not true.

The facts are that young girls are raped everyday - the media only cares when it helps them to sell papers/get clicks and immigrants are the hot topic at the moment.

A couple years ago it was trans men (funny how that’s gone quiet now) and years ago it would have been black men.

Chickpeacurrywithrice · Yesterday 19:05

Ohhh1 · Yesterday 15:45

The lack of attention bothers me. People just zoom in on their phones / books etc and like to zone out to anything that is remotely uncomfortable.

This is a 14 year old girl who was being led to the toilets but two much older men, ofcourse people should have noticed and said something

So you’re saying people can’t just zone out on a journey, because potentially someone might be attacked?

climbintheback · Yesterday 19:05

If calling out 3rd world men is racist well so be it - we are over being called bigots and racist since the grooming gang scandal - normal folk won’t turn the other cheek any more.

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:06

‘19 Afghan men convicted last year’

Bollocks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm1j4j6yd7n0o 3 men last month

https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2026/july/man-convicted-following-rape-of-two-teenage-girls-in-december-2025/ man who raped 2 girls in December 2025

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgkjg76lvxo February 2026 - man raped girl

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2025-12-08/teenage-afghan-asylum-seekers-sentenced-for-raping-15-year-old-girl-in-park 2 men raped girl in park - December 2025, Leamington Spa

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyv0vqp04pgo 3 more men who gang raped a woman on a beach

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/22/seven-men-charged-with-and-child-sexual-abuse-offences-in-norwich - 7 men charged with sex offences in Norwich. May 2026

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g97nv36go - Man raped underage girl. May 2025, Nottinghamshire.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmvgy14g039lo - Man raped 2 teenage girls. September 2026, Bolton

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg9vneppgko - Man raped teenager in park in Elgin, Moray

https://news.sky.com/story/refugee-sentenced-for-sex-attacks-on-two-women-in-falkirk-13558763- Man attacks two women in Falkirk

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2z47v57q0o - Falkirk, June 2025 - young girl raped

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crm818dkmn7o March 2026, Southampton, man sexually assaults woman

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2026-02-27/afghan-migrant-jailed-for-raping-vulnerable-intoxicated-woman February 226 Southampton - man raped woman

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70vj8edjego - April 2026, 2 men gang rape a woman in Plymouth

Mugshots of Awal Ahmadzai, Salman Habibkheil and Mehrab Safi. All the men are of Afghan nationality, with short, dark hair, dark eyes and facial hair.

Men jailed for raping teenage girl after grooming her on Snapchat

Three men tried to flee the UK in a lorry after their crimes, but were stopped by French police.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm1j4j6yd7n0o

Chickpeacurrywithrice · Yesterday 19:06

Ohhh1 · Yesterday 15:27

Were you there? The defendant said that people were too busy on their phones to notice what was happening.

Do you believe everything you easy in the DM?

inamarina · Yesterday 19:10

Emilesgran · Yesterday 18:19

Except that the exact same phenomenon is observed among, eg, Somali men in Denmark - which never colonised them and whose language is unlikely to be taught in their schools.
Afghan men are high up on Danish crime lists too.

It looks as though it's the fault of the men and the society they come from, and not the country that so kindly accorded them asylum.

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2058243286444224849/photo/1

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Afghan men are high up on Danish crime lists too.

Same is true for Germany:

According to official reports from the German Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA), Afghan nationals are statistically over-represented on crime registries relative to their population size.
BKA data shows that the violent crime suspect rate among native Germans sits at roughly 163 suspects per 100,000 residents. By contrast, the rate for Afghan nationals is 1,722 suspects per 100,000 residents—making them roughly ten times more likely to appear as suspects in violent offences.

Clavinova · Yesterday 19:10

eventfulasever · Yesterday 18:32

Think most of these men were born here. Feels like we have a massive societal issue with hatred of women in general https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-trial-live-nine-men-34843691

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These 12 men (one aged 17) are Afghan nationals:

28 October 2026
The trial of eight Afghan migrants accused of more than 40 offences against two girls in Norwich has been moved to London...

Six of them entered the UK on small boats, while the other two arrived concealed in vehicles.

https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/26679333.afghan-gang-child-sexual-exploitation-trial-moving-london/

6 October 2026
[Four Afghans] jailed for raping girl after Snapchat grooming

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm1j4j6yd7n0o

Sasha07 · Yesterday 19:11

There were two young girls with migrants at night in our local city. A man stopped the older girl and asked if she knew the men and she laughed and said they were friends. 4 or 6 (can't remember) foreign men with two girls. The man who stopped the girl asked why, clearly 20-30 year old men, were hanging out with girls who looked 16 and the other closer to 13/14. The girls thought it was funny, the men, one in particular, got aggressive and wanted to fight him for simply asking if the girls knew them.

You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. And I wouldn't trust the police to be quick/to be on my side, if I did try to intervene. Not sure what I'd do in the moment though, I'd like to think my maternal side would kick in but... I'm very aware how useless others/the police can be.

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:12

Part 2 (didn’t want to lose my initial post)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/40123930/migrant-fiends-raped-woman-park/ another gang rape by 2 men, August 2026, London

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ryr5yxy28o - Man rapes vulnerable man, Leicester. July 2026

And of course the case from the train 💔💔

This is a cursory, non exhaustive 10 minute search and only includes men from Afghanistan. This does not include articles on men from Syria, Eritrea, Somalia, Iran, Iraq… I could go on

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/40123930/migrant-fiends-raped-woman-park

OneAlertOliveFinch · Yesterday 19:12

Using the "racist" card to end discussions doesn't work anymore. Patterns are emerging in the behaviour of men from certain countries. We cannot shy away from this, we need to protect women and girls.

Holidayhooha · Yesterday 19:12

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:05

No they don’t.

Please share where you got this statistic because that’s simply not true.

The facts are that young girls are raped everyday - the media only cares when it helps them to sell papers/get clicks and immigrants are the hot topic at the moment.

A couple years ago it was trans men (funny how that’s gone quiet now) and years ago it would have been black men.

Ministry of Justice figures for 2020-2022 indicate Afghan men 7 times more likely to commit sexual offences, data is now behind paywall on The Economist October 2026.

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:13

So that’s what, at least 30 men in one year from a very cursory 10 minute non exhaustive search, from just 1 subgroup of migrants (Afghanistan)? Not looking good is it?

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 19:13

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:05

No they don’t.

Please share where you got this statistic because that’s simply not true.

The facts are that young girls are raped everyday - the media only cares when it helps them to sell papers/get clicks and immigrants are the hot topic at the moment.

A couple years ago it was trans men (funny how that’s gone quiet now) and years ago it would have been black men.

Absolute nonsense. In many of the countries these men come from, women are valued less than animals. While we are letting in men who are accustomed to treating women as such, we shouldn’t be surprised when things like this happen. Treating those who voice concerns as racists increases the threat to women.

Clavinova · Yesterday 19:13

Cross-posted.

Beeloux · Yesterday 19:13

Whammyammy · Yesterday 19:03

Spot on. I cant understand why a posters are indirectly and directly defending someone that raced an autistic child, a CHILD!

It’s so disgusting. I remember being out with my friends when we were all quite clearly underage and they would be approaching us. 😷I had an autistic friend who was 14 at the time and they were trying to lure her to get in their car (this was in broad daylight too!). She’d told them her age. I had their cards marked and told them to fuck clean off.

I’m astonished no one tried to intervene on that train. Seems people are more concerned about defending these peadophiles than the poor child.

CakeAndEats · Yesterday 19:15

Lots of EU nations have great data on per capita and they control for age and gender. Young men from these nations are so much worse than normal European men

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:15

Holidayhooha · Yesterday 19:12

Ministry of Justice figures for 2020-2022 indicate Afghan men 7 times more likely to commit sexual offences, data is now behind paywall on The Economist October 2026.

Please can you link the statistics.

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Beeloux · Yesterday 19:18

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:15

Please can you link the statistics.

Out of interest, have you ever lived in an Islamic country?

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:19

Sasha07 · Yesterday 19:11

There were two young girls with migrants at night in our local city. A man stopped the older girl and asked if she knew the men and she laughed and said they were friends. 4 or 6 (can't remember) foreign men with two girls. The man who stopped the girl asked why, clearly 20-30 year old men, were hanging out with girls who looked 16 and the other closer to 13/14. The girls thought it was funny, the men, one in particular, got aggressive and wanted to fight him for simply asking if the girls knew them.

You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. And I wouldn't trust the police to be quick/to be on my side, if I did try to intervene. Not sure what I'd do in the moment though, I'd like to think my maternal side would kick in but... I'm very aware how useless others/the police can be.

I completely agree but this is how grooming goes unnoticed/under prosecuted because the girls (and boys) are ‘choosing’ to be there.

I had similar experiences growing up, as did many of my friends.
I also work with both victims and perpetrators now.
But not much has changed because the girls ‘want’ to be there.

That is how grooming works because it makes the victim feel that they are in control and don’t realise anything is actually wrong.
They want to be there and don’t believe they are being groomed or used.