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Shocked that no one helped the girl on the train

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Ohhh1 · Yesterday 14:37

14 year old SA in trained

I am being unreasonable in think people need to stop being so absorbed on their phones whilst out in public. It seems no one helpped this child whilst she was being raped because they were too busy on their phones.

Autistic girl, 14, 'sexually assaulted on train by Afghan migrants'

Baryalai Rahimi, 25, and Mirebadurahman Sadat, 29, are said to have spotted the runaway teenager at a station in rural Kent before following her onto the London-bound train on February 5.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16264873/afghan-migrants-schoolgirl-14-raping-train-toilets.html

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OneAlertOliveFinch · Yesterday 19:42

Lifetsuck · Yesterday 19:40

Do you think white British men should be banned from going to Vietnam, Thailand etc ?

Are you on drugs? What has this got to do with a poor girl being raped on a train by Afghans?

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:42

Lifetsuck · Yesterday 19:40

Do you think white British men should be banned from going to Vietnam, Thailand etc ?

If Vietnam or Thailand see fit to ban them, that’s their choice.

Holidayhooha · Yesterday 19:42

Yarps · Yesterday 19:37

Do you also comment on white British men raping children? Because the stats on that are much higher. What are you doing to ask the government to do something about that?

Unfortunately they are British citizens with the right to be here, but why are we adding to the problem by importing more rapists? Or was this just another attempt at whataboutery?

Minasama · Yesterday 19:43

TheLastSilverSaint · Yesterday 15:20

Do you think it's the government's fault when white British men rape kids, too?

Because that happens a great deal more often than kids being raped by refugees. There will be hundreds more sex crimes committed by white British men than by Afghan refugees.

The Daily Mail wouldn't even bother reporting this case if the defendants were British, and if they did, they'd totally be blaming the victim. They only give a shit about women and girls when it gives them a chance to stir up racist reactions.

You are mistaken. Afghan men are 7 times more likely to rape women in Britain than British men. For other Middle Eastern men the figure is 5 times more likely. The Economist ran a very interesting article on this which you can find online.

So yes, the government should be protecting us from these men.

Please don’t allow your laudable wish not to be racist to stand in the way of the facts. That’s why we had Pakistani rape gangs operating freely in 149 areas, and more than 100 separate abuse cases against girls and women in Birmingham alone are currently being investigated.

Very clearly there are more British perpetrators. That’s because there are many tens of millions more British men in this country than Afghans. But the high rates of assault committed by these guests to our country really stand out and these attacks can easily be prevented - by not allowing these men in.

1dayatatime · Yesterday 19:43

Laurmolonlabe · Yesterday 19:37

There are plenty of possibilities,who knows,?What l do know is that the amount of Migrants we get from Afghanistan these days is as close to zero as makes no odds.

Well there was 6,500 in 2025, 35,000 cumulative since 2021 plus another 38,000 under the Afghan Resettlement Programme.

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:46

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:31

I posted links showing some 30 rapes and gang rapes that have taken place in the last year or so by Afghan (not Syrian, not Eritrean, not Iraqi, not Somalian, not Iranian) ‘asylum’ seekers. This was a totally non exhaustive search, I literally just pasted the first 15 or so links that came up.

Given there are 40,000 Afghan refugees in the UK, this is the same as a town the size of Fleet having 30 odd stranger or gang rapes every year (probably more as my list was not exhaustive).

But you didn’t post links about other rapes?
You are literally posting specific examples.
Without statistics, articles mean nothing.

I could post articles where women commit sexual offences against children and by your logic that would mean the majority of offences committed towards children are women - but we know this isn’t the case.

A teenage girl was raped in a train station toilets not long ago but no one is claiming the perpetrator did it for any other reason than because he’s a violent rapist.

What about the man who ran after the girl and stabbed her multiple times and stabbed the (immigrant) shop keeper and got a slap on the wrist for it.

I do not want this thread to care more about people’s agenda than the actual victim, so I won’t keep on but you’re being brainwashed by the algorithm and can’t see it.

A couple of years ago every other thread was about the dangers of trans men. It was constantly in the media.
You barely get that any more.
Of course some trans men still commit rapes and it should never be swept under the carpet (like immigrant rapes shouldn’t be) but we know it’s not as big of a problem that the media (and Tracy off Facebook) made it out to be.

If I had my way, everyone would be electronically ID’d with DNA on file and so I do have a problem with undocumented men in this country - but I’m also not naive enough to think that illegal immigrants are more of a risk than non immigrants.

OneAlertOliveFinch · Yesterday 19:48

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:46

But you didn’t post links about other rapes?
You are literally posting specific examples.
Without statistics, articles mean nothing.

I could post articles where women commit sexual offences against children and by your logic that would mean the majority of offences committed towards children are women - but we know this isn’t the case.

A teenage girl was raped in a train station toilets not long ago but no one is claiming the perpetrator did it for any other reason than because he’s a violent rapist.

What about the man who ran after the girl and stabbed her multiple times and stabbed the (immigrant) shop keeper and got a slap on the wrist for it.

I do not want this thread to care more about people’s agenda than the actual victim, so I won’t keep on but you’re being brainwashed by the algorithm and can’t see it.

A couple of years ago every other thread was about the dangers of trans men. It was constantly in the media.
You barely get that any more.
Of course some trans men still commit rapes and it should never be swept under the carpet (like immigrant rapes shouldn’t be) but we know it’s not as big of a problem that the media (and Tracy off Facebook) made it out to be.

If I had my way, everyone would be electronically ID’d with DNA on file and so I do have a problem with undocumented men in this country - but I’m also not naive enough to think that illegal immigrants are more of a risk than non immigrants.

The statistics have been posted multiple times in this thread.

Minasama · Yesterday 19:48

1dayatatime · Yesterday 19:43

Well there was 6,500 in 2025, 35,000 cumulative since 2021 plus another 38,000 under the Afghan Resettlement Programme.

@Laurmolonlabe It would make odds to you if you were attacked by one of them, that is the point I think.
I mentioned the Economist finding that Afghan men are 7 times more likely to sexually attack a women than British men above. That is not insignificant.

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:49

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:46

But you didn’t post links about other rapes?
You are literally posting specific examples.
Without statistics, articles mean nothing.

I could post articles where women commit sexual offences against children and by your logic that would mean the majority of offences committed towards children are women - but we know this isn’t the case.

A teenage girl was raped in a train station toilets not long ago but no one is claiming the perpetrator did it for any other reason than because he’s a violent rapist.

What about the man who ran after the girl and stabbed her multiple times and stabbed the (immigrant) shop keeper and got a slap on the wrist for it.

I do not want this thread to care more about people’s agenda than the actual victim, so I won’t keep on but you’re being brainwashed by the algorithm and can’t see it.

A couple of years ago every other thread was about the dangers of trans men. It was constantly in the media.
You barely get that any more.
Of course some trans men still commit rapes and it should never be swept under the carpet (like immigrant rapes shouldn’t be) but we know it’s not as big of a problem that the media (and Tracy off Facebook) made it out to be.

If I had my way, everyone would be electronically ID’d with DNA on file and so I do have a problem with undocumented men in this country - but I’m also not naive enough to think that illegal immigrants are more of a risk than non immigrants.

Simple thought experiment. Which country would you prefer to live in, in terms of women’s safety? Britain or Afghanistan?

Minasama · Yesterday 19:49

OneAlertOliveFinch · Yesterday 19:48

The statistics have been posted multiple times in this thread.

@OneHazelBird They are. You are not being naive.

CakeAndEats · Yesterday 19:50

The UK's data is a bit patchy. So many EU nations actually track by ethnicity and control for age and gender and the results are shocking

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:50

LittleGreenShoots · Yesterday 19:39

The crimes are obviously real, but I do think it's worth acknowledging the focus would not be the same if it was Chinese men or Filipino men or British men. The right wing papers are clearly choosing to put these stories front and centre and publicise them heavily when there is a link to asylum seekers or muslim offenders and black offenders. There are political powers and money at play and newspapers like the Daily Mail are absolutely wanting to create this thought in your head that there is so much crime from these people. Lots of those stories that are front and centre in the British right wing press aren't even from this country, but if they fit the narrative, they will go in and go in big. I've even seen them dig out ten/ fifteen/ twenty year old news stories and run them like they are new, it's crazy. There was one story about an asylum seeker who raped a girl in Sunderland and they ran that story so much, I remember thinking something new had happened before I checked the date and saw the article referred to the older crime.

I DO think there is an issue with the checks and security of the current asylum process. I would like more governmental debate about it. I think they are being too careless about their current resettlement of likely very damaged individuals. But I can also see the distortion and manipulation in the press and I don't think it's helping, because the real discussion starts to get lost inside nonsense about Christmas tree packaging and aggressive nationalist poppies.

Absolutely this 👏👏

I’ve always thought of MNers as being quite intelligent and logical but I’ve noticed that many of them have been brainwashed by the algorithms, very similar to men who swallow the red pill.

It’s quite scary times we live in when common sense and logic seem to be reducing.

Mixedberrygenderfluidmuffin · Yesterday 19:51

XDownwiththissortofthingX · Yesterday 16:26

"denied" on what grounds?

The article simply describes them as "migrants" and does not elaborate, so neither you nor I have any idea of how they arrived in the UK or on what basis they are here.

I'm sure you're not arguing that people from certain countries or demographics should be denied entry to the UK in all cases and irrespective of circumstance, because not only is that inhumane and barbaric, it's also nakedly racist, and I'm sure you're not one of those.

If believing that we shouldn’t allow any men from Muslim countries that don’t respect women’s human rights into the country for any reason is ‘nakedly racist’ I’m unashamedly nakedly racist.
I don’t want any more men here who adhere to an ideology that doesn’t recognise women as fully human.
If they need asylum, they should fuck off and seek it in one of the many Muslim countries available.

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:51

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:50

Absolutely this 👏👏

I’ve always thought of MNers as being quite intelligent and logical but I’ve noticed that many of them have been brainwashed by the algorithms, very similar to men who swallow the red pill.

It’s quite scary times we live in when common sense and logic seem to be reducing.

Can you answer my question? Which is the more misogynistic country - Britain or Afghanistan?

HowNowBrownCow33 · Yesterday 19:52

LoudWriter · Yesterday 17:42

I know people are saying that others shouldn't have been expected to know anything 'off' might be happening as the assault happened in the toilets, but the fact that the rapists would have been obviously older than the girl, and most likely of a different race (there was no mention of her race, but it seems likely that if she were also not white that would have been mentioned), I think you'd be lying if you said that wasn't enough info for you to think something a bit dodgy might be going on. They were hardly likely to be her brothers. At the very least, my warning bells would have been going on and I'd have been tempted to keep an eye on the situation.

White people can be friends with brown people?

It was a rural station in Kent. Theres nothing to suggest the train was rammed. Passengers would have just seen what they probably thought was a couple come on together and sit kissing

Its not a case of everyone witnessing abuse and ignoring, more likely a fairly empty carriage and no one really paying attention to anyone else. And lets be honest most people dont want others to be thinking about them on a train

The fault lies with the men.

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:53

OneAlertOliveFinch · Yesterday 19:48

The statistics have been posted multiple times in this thread.

Where?

Are you talking about actual links or just people writing their statistics with no links?

I have obviously missed them because I’ve not seen them.

Perhaps they have been deleted?

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:54

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:51

Can you answer my question? Which is the more misogynistic country - Britain or Afghanistan?

Yoohoo, @OneHazelBird we are waiting for you to answer this!

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:54

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:06

‘19 Afghan men convicted last year’

Bollocks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm1j4j6yd7n0o 3 men last month

https://www.gmp.police.uk/news/greater-manchester/news/news/2026/july/man-convicted-following-rape-of-two-teenage-girls-in-december-2025/ man who raped 2 girls in December 2025

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgkjg76lvxo February 2026 - man raped girl

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2025-12-08/teenage-afghan-asylum-seekers-sentenced-for-raping-15-year-old-girl-in-park 2 men raped girl in park - December 2025, Leamington Spa

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyv0vqp04pgo 3 more men who gang raped a woman on a beach

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/22/seven-men-charged-with-and-child-sexual-abuse-offences-in-norwich - 7 men charged with sex offences in Norwich. May 2026

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2g97nv36go - Man raped underage girl. May 2025, Nottinghamshire.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmvgy14g039lo - Man raped 2 teenage girls. September 2026, Bolton

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg9vneppgko - Man raped teenager in park in Elgin, Moray

https://news.sky.com/story/refugee-sentenced-for-sex-attacks-on-two-women-in-falkirk-13558763- Man attacks two women in Falkirk

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2z47v57q0o - Falkirk, June 2025 - young girl raped

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crm818dkmn7o March 2026, Southampton, man sexually assaults woman

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2026-02-27/afghan-migrant-jailed-for-raping-vulnerable-intoxicated-woman February 226 Southampton - man raped woman

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70vj8edjego - April 2026, 2 men gang rape a woman in Plymouth

Posting again!

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:55

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:51

Can you answer my question? Which is the more misogynistic country - Britain or Afghanistan?

Without a doubt Afghanistan.

OneAlertOliveFinch · Yesterday 19:55

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:53

Where?

Are you talking about actual links or just people writing their statistics with no links?

I have obviously missed them because I’ve not seen them.

Perhaps they have been deleted?

Multiple images with source citations at the bottom. I'm sure you're capable of following a citation. Or maybe I'm not.

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:55

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:55

Without a doubt Afghanistan.

Why is that? And who is oppressing these women?

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:55

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:54

Yoohoo, @OneHazelBird we are waiting for you to answer this!

I did???

LoudWriter · Yesterday 19:56

HowNowBrownCow33 · Yesterday 19:52

White people can be friends with brown people?

It was a rural station in Kent. Theres nothing to suggest the train was rammed. Passengers would have just seen what they probably thought was a couple come on together and sit kissing

Its not a case of everyone witnessing abuse and ignoring, more likely a fairly empty carriage and no one really paying attention to anyone else. And lets be honest most people dont want others to be thinking about them on a train

The fault lies with the men.

She was 14. One of the men was 25 and another was 29.

OneHazelBird · Yesterday 19:56

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:54

Posting again!

These aren’t statistics 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:59

Apotofrealcoffee · Yesterday 19:55

Why is that? And who is oppressing these women?

? @OneHazelBird