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.... to not want lunch guests pitching up at 3. Or at least not for actual lunch.

277 replies

AlteFrau · Yesterday 13:04

Original arrangement was for late lunch. The guests have a toddler who naps late morning, so I'd imagined they wouldn't turn up before 1. More likely 1.30ish. Maybe 2 at the latest.

We planned something that was easy to heat up, rather than a fiddly meal where timings would need to be exact.

I0 minutes ago we got a text saying, the toddler has only just gone for their nap, so they will turn up about 3.

My discussion with partner was that we'd eat the lunch we prepared now, freeze the stuff that the guests would have eaten, and text back saying, 'Oh you're coming for tea then. There'll be some cake.'

What would you do?

OP posts:
Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 18:04

RikthePoet · Yesterday 17:16

But why wouldn't you be able to wait?

What's going to happen? You feel a bit hungry?

Just wait.

I don't have breakfast so 3pm is a bit late for me for lunch.
Personally, I probably would wait in this scenario, my comment was about OP's situation where she apparently couldn't wait. In that situation, I'd eat my lunch at my preferred time and then have something small with the guests when they arrive.

MandemChickenShop · Yesterday 18:04

it's one Sunday. does it really matter? why worry, just eat something or don't. there's enough real problems in the world that you don't need to turn this into another one.

JustSawJohnny · Yesterday 18:12

RikthePoet · Yesterday 17:26

What a strange response.

The OP says "they will turn up about 3".

Why are you trying to make out they'll arrive at 4?

Plus Op stated they'd purposefully made something 'easy to reheat' so they were absolutely capable of reheating it at 3.

They froze the extra portions just so they could refuse food because they were salty about waiting.

So, SO petty and utterly devoid of the empathy they were trying to show by agreeing to the visit happening post-nap in the first place.

Mumtobabyhavoc · Yesterday 18:13

MandemChickenShop · Yesterday 18:04

it's one Sunday. does it really matter? why worry, just eat something or don't. there's enough real problems in the world that you don't need to turn this into another one.

Well, that's not patronizing, is it?
🙄

NeedSomeHeadspace · Yesterday 18:16

Do they expect you to go hungry and wait for them till 3pm? I would do soup and ovenbaked bread, and a lasagne. Then it’s there, you can easily keep it warm/re-heat and plate when they get there.

Leopardspota · Yesterday 18:19

‘“Late lunch’ to me is between 2-3.30… anything before that is normal lunchtime, after that is early tea/tea time on a Sunday …

Givemeausernamepls · Yesterday 18:21

I mean assuming I actually liked them and wanted to see them (and you never know with Mumsnet). I’d say, lovely see you when you get here.

UniDaysAcoming · Yesterday 18:26

Hope you had a nice time @AlteFrau and it all worked out after all!
Your DH wants to make nice memories... don't resent them, go with the flow so there's no stress on either side and he successfully makes happy innter-generational memories.
He anyway cooked something that can be heated up. Hopefully he ate some on time for his health and had some too when the guests came!

Woollyguru · Yesterday 18:27

Why didn't you agree an actual time! How bizarre to leave it vague and then get miffed about timings!

thisismeithinkorisit · Yesterday 18:29

AlteFrau · Yesterday 13:17

Well, the guests still in the 'perfect first baby' stage with a toddler that tends to wake early but nap for an hour at around 11.30. So if we'd said 1, we' d have got into this long, tedious conversation about 'Oh we don't know when toddler will go down for their nap, so it might be 1.30.'

It is my husband's side of the family and he was very keen for there to be a 'proper family meal.' He'd been cooking since 11, so the rhythm of the day was based around the idea that we'd be likely to eat at 1.30 or 2.

A bit of flexibility fine - but I think it's eating too far into the afternoon for lunch esp. at this time of the year, when it's getting dark at 4.

Maybe if it was some really big Christmas lunch thing, where there had been lots of nibbles, snacks etc late morning, but not otherwise.

No chance for walking to the park, playing in the garden etc.

Not the end of the world, but I've been sleeping really badly lately and often fade by mid-afternoon. Not the easiest time for me to exude sociability.

Shall let husband deal with the guests for the most part, I think.

so he's been cooking for 2 hours or he prepped something easy that could be warmed up?

I think given you didn't specify a time and late lunch is later than 1.30, I'd be gracious and just heat it up before they get there / once they're there. does it really matter that the meal is called?

I would ask given the time if they were going to eat, but in a "food is prepped but if you need to eat before you get here I understand and I'll sort dessert instead" rather than "well then we shall not let you eat our food!"

10cupsofcoffeeplease · Yesterday 18:33

ginasevern · Yesterday 13:19

Probably best not to invite them for a meal at all if they're slaves to the toddlers nap time.

There is ZERO point in hvaing a sit down lunch with a toddler who hasn't napped. They'll be a nightmare and ruin everything. So yeah, I'd expect family to pander to it.

And if someone suggests a late Sunday lunch - I think 3pm! We in fact had Sunday lunch with my in laws today at the pub - at 3pm!

OP has failed to communicate expectations and clearly hates these people anyway.

Cherrytree86 · Yesterday 18:49

No. Breakfast is 6am with the children. Lunch is 12 noon sharp. Dinner is 5pm. Everybody in bed by 10pm. People can either fit in with that or eff off.

nidvideouioui · Yesterday 18:51

YANBU but the message was so passive aggressive that I had to go with YABU. You could have said literally anything else.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · Yesterday 18:57

You should say cake rather than tea. To me tea is the evening meal so I would be expecting a lot more than cake and not until later on

AnneShirleyBlythe · Yesterday 19:02

I often eat lunch at 2pm on non working days so 3 would be a late lunch to me. Probably best to specify a time if it bothers you. Just have some toast & tea to keep you going.

lemondrivelcake · Yesterday 19:05

Comeinsideforacupoftea · Yesterday 14:53

FFS they have a toddler and are probably stressed to the eyeballs that their toddler didn't get to sleep as expected. It's not like you had a reservation at the ritz. You had some food you could heat up at any time. Just ask if they'll want feeding when they arrive or not and accomodate that and stop being so bloody petty and inflexible or if as a grown adult you can't accept somebody's dependent baby being more of a priority than you then it might be time to scale down the friendship. Do you have kids yourself OP? Presumably not?

Yes, babies and small children throw plans out. So perhaps that means their parents should accept that there will be some things they can't come to while they're small, rather than putting everyone else out as well? The whole world does not have to dance attendance on people with children.

Pineapples198 · Yesterday 19:07

I think this is more about the fact that you don’t like them - your posts seem derogatory towards them especially your comments about “perfect first baby”.
if you wanted them to come for a specific time say so. If they say it’ll be later agree to tea and cake instead.
I get it would be annoying if they estimate 1pm and now it’s 3, but if you only ever said “late lunch” and timings weren’t mentioned it’s hardly their fault you had a schedule in your head that they weren’t aware of. Next time be clear on timings

Orangeducks · Yesterday 19:09

I cam understand your frustration a little but think you should give more grace to the guests. Toddler parenting is tiring and thay little break in the middle of the day is as much for the parents as the child. For them, its a couple of hours off between a no doubt busy and early start to socialising in the afternoon. I was extremely protective of that nap time because I was fundamentally worn out and it was a moment to catch my breath. I would also be fairly inflexible with it so I try to be very understanding of my friends for through it now. Its not so much about timekeeping but just putting boundaries in for their child but also themselves to take the time to rest. For whatever reason the nap was later than usual but I'd fully support them taking that time to recharge.

gingercat02 · Yesterday 19:16

Cherrytree86 · Yesterday 18:49

No. Breakfast is 6am with the children. Lunch is 12 noon sharp. Dinner is 5pm. Everybody in bed by 10pm. People can either fit in with that or eff off.

Wow you are a fun family!

Chickpeacurrywithrice · Yesterday 19:16

lemondrivelcake · Yesterday 19:05

Yes, babies and small children throw plans out. So perhaps that means their parents should accept that there will be some things they can't come to while they're small, rather than putting everyone else out as well? The whole world does not have to dance attendance on people with children.

So I suppose these parents that are offered a meal at no set time, only a late lunch, think that they’re being invited by reasonable and flexible people. So they accept.

Rather than people like yourself, that have a rigid and unforgiving schedule and get angry when it’s not adhered to and they’d decline!

No I wouldn’t dance to your tune anymore than you’d dance to a toddlers.

OP is obviously in your camp but never voiced it.

InLawTwats · Yesterday 19:16

Cherrytree86 · Yesterday 18:49

No. Breakfast is 6am with the children. Lunch is 12 noon sharp. Dinner is 5pm. Everybody in bed by 10pm. People can either fit in with that or eff off.

Do you live in a military boot camp?

Velumental · Yesterday 19:17

AlteFrau · Yesterday 15:44

I think the issue is partly with my husband who wishes to placate his relative who was a notoriously bad timekeeper even before they became a parent. Requests to come for a particular time never worked. There would be a vague resentment about being pinned down. They'd turn up significantly later or there'd be a series of messages about a change of plan.

But my husband also really really wanted a sitdown family lunch. In his wider family, this always used to be around 1 - not mid-afternoon - and there are a lot of happy memories of cross-generational meals.

I think over the last few decades there has been a shift towards everything being much more informal - microwaves make it easier to heat something up. But I think something has been lost

My husband is older and he is prediabetic. Obviously he can keep himself going with snacks. He is disappointed because he would so much like his relative - who is of a younger generation - to be better at juggling different needs.

A toddler is a priority, but it is useful to be able to think about others too, and try and balance things.

I feel a bit sad for my husband because what is happening is so different from what is in his head. A bit like the woman who has planned the perfect Xmas and then there are hitches.

Relative has just messaged to say they are on the way. It is going to be afteroon tea.

We will probably stick to more casual teas, coffee etc for the time being. As Mumsnet sometimes likes to say, 'Our house. Our rules.'

You're childless and it's his grandchild?

Chickpeacurrywithrice · Yesterday 19:18

Cherrytree86 · Yesterday 18:49

No. Breakfast is 6am with the children. Lunch is 12 noon sharp. Dinner is 5pm. Everybody in bed by 10pm. People can either fit in with that or eff off.

Oh that’s my idea of hell! So you never deviate? So you ever get invited to other people’s places that don’t have this regime?

Chickpeacurrywithrice · Yesterday 19:20

Cherrytree86 · Yesterday 18:49

No. Breakfast is 6am with the children. Lunch is 12 noon sharp. Dinner is 5pm. Everybody in bed by 10pm. People can either fit in with that or eff off.

Does sex fall before the 10 pm curfew or are you allowed to stay awake after for those “special” moments?

Just wondering?

IPM · Yesterday 19:22

Chickpeacurrywithrice · Yesterday 19:20

Does sex fall before the 10 pm curfew or are you allowed to stay awake after for those “special” moments?

Just wondering?

I get the impression sex is strictly for procreation purposes only!

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