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Child responsibilities.. Should dinner be made or even started when the first parent gets home from work?

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Playinwithfire · Yesterday 08:21

Last night I get home, it was around 7.30 and my youngest said mummy I'm hungry. I was confused DH had been home since 2pm and sorted HIS stuff and then he headed off to his hobby. I checked to see if they had enough dinner, then the child says we didn't get any dinner! I'm furious...

There has been a few changes and I have been very understanding that DH is trying to adjust. However, for f"*k sake... I feel like I need to still manage everything and ensure things get done. I'm asked a 100 questions daily. An I snapped last night...

I just don't get how you can go off to a hobby knowing that your children still haven't eaten however, you've made sure all the stuff he had to do was priority and very much completed.

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HairsprayBabe · Yesterday 10:10

@Cosyblankets apologies I missed that in the OPS drip feeds

I still take the same stance though while DH is a useless waste of space in this situation 15yo could have done something - "Dad shall I put the airfryer on?" or even "Dad what's for dinner?"

We can expect our partners to be good parents and expect our children to use their brains at the same time.

I am also baffled how 3 older kids/teens didn't think to mention to their father that they were hungry but waited till their mum got home to moan.

holidayhelpneeded1 · Yesterday 10:11

user1492757084 · Yesterday 10:08

I need to know more.
When asking DC15 to put some dinner on for the younger two, did DH specify what, have something there prepped ready to be cooked etc?
Did DC15 cook something for themselves and not the younger two? DH is right in expecting that a child who cooks would cook enough for the three of them.
Did DH ask the kids what they wanted? Maybe they said they felt sick.

If DH put in zero effort for dinner, I find that incredibly selfish and neglectful.

The guy was home at 2pm and didnt leave until 7pm, so why the hell he was even asking the 15 year old is ridiculous and I cant believe so many people are fine with a dad not even doing minimum parenting but then expect the 15 year old to pick up the slack.

The only thing im wondering is did the 8 year old ask the dad or do they see OP as default parent and didnt even ask him because they expect him to be useless?

TheRealMagic · Yesterday 10:15

Seajaye · Yesterday 10:09

Sometimes you just need to tell some men/ fathers exactly what they've got to do when it comes to childcare and routines.. Like saying " I won't be home until later this evening so you need to give the X and Y for the tea/dinner at Z time and ask them about their day./school . The children need to start getting ready for bed at * time ..

. I know you shouldn't have to, but it is easier all round if make the instructions and tasks idiot proof. Remind them by text if necessary.

Did you have to dig a trench first to set a bar quite that low?

Iloveshihtzus · Yesterday 10:16

Seajaye · Yesterday 10:09

Sometimes you just need to tell some men/ fathers exactly what they've got to do when it comes to childcare and routines.. Like saying " I won't be home until later this evening so you need to give the X and Y for the tea/dinner at Z time and ask them about their day./school . The children need to start getting ready for bed at * time ..

. I know you shouldn't have to, but it is easier all round if make the instructions and tasks idiot proof. Remind them by text if necessary.

Why? Maybe in the 1950s when the wife was at home as a housewife but when we as wives and mothers are now expected to fund at least 50% of the finances by working full time, why do the husbands still get to act like it’s the 1950s?

oh yes - because other women won’t support us in our quest to get men to step the fuck up.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 10:17

Makebelieveanotherlife · Yesterday 09:22

Well you are drip feeding here so what do you expect?

What's the drip feed?

GreyCarpet · Yesterday 10:17

Tbh, my children are pretty good cooks. My youngest especially.

By 13, she was more than capable of cooking something decent and I would quite often get home from work to find she'd already started dinner because there was something she fancied or wanted to do something nice for me.

However, that is not the same as having a parent in the house who just hasn't bothered and then announced on their way out that dinner is the 15 year oldest responsibility that night.

Even if he thought the 15 year old was capable of cooking for themselvs, he still hadn't considered the 8 year old.

He just couldnt be bothered and then passed on the responsibility to a child.

DuggansBakery · Yesterday 10:19

arethereanyleftatall · Yesterday 09:19

I’m sorry op, but your update that your child is 15 changes things massively!!! Since my DCs were old enough to cool something decent for themselves - say 12 - they have never expected a meal, and I would not tolerate them expecting me to do it. Sure, I almost always do, but their response is a thank you, and their response if I didn’t do it for whatever reason, is to make something themselves and ask me if I wanted something.

No no nope, if a parent has been home since 2pm, it is not on to ask the 15yo to step in at 7pm to do something as basic as feeding the family. Absolutely knock this on the head - it is different if it’s a pre agreed task and shared out/rostered, but not to say ‘I’m off - you sort out the littluns.’

Fiftyandme · Yesterday 10:19

Playinwithfire · Yesterday 09:33

Thanks to those of you understanding my frustration!

I don't believe I need to communicate to a grown ass man to feed his children before he does his own thing! That is basic parenting. He does not need to remind me! I was speaking to him, as I always do to let him know I was on my way home. As it was so late, I would assume my children were fed considering he was home in time- before everyone else- to feed them.

8 year olds bed time is 8 o'clock.

I cannot believe that people still think women need to give supposedly grown assed men a list for the unpaid shitwork. They seem to manage find knowing what to do at work/when it suits them

FoldItIn · Yesterday 10:21

Fucking hell. Look how quickly posters latched on to blame the 15 year old instead of the grown man who had been home since 2pm.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I pity how some of you live. You expect nothing from your husband/partner and that must be very hard.
Want more for yourselves and your children.

GreyCarpet · Yesterday 10:21

Seajaye · Yesterday 10:09

Sometimes you just need to tell some men/ fathers exactly what they've got to do when it comes to childcare and routines.. Like saying " I won't be home until later this evening so you need to give the X and Y for the tea/dinner at Z time and ask them about their day./school . The children need to start getting ready for bed at * time ..

. I know you shouldn't have to, but it is easier all round if make the instructions and tasks idiot proof. Remind them by text if necessary.

No.

HairsprayBabe · Yesterday 10:23

@DuggansBakery

The two issues are getting tangled up - yes it is absolutely possible for a 15yo to watch younger siblings and make a meal. BUT the father should have done it before prioritising his own hobby.

Would have been nice for the 15yo to show some initiative but the blame obviously doesn't lay on them.

Still don't understand how any of the children didn't moan about being hungry between school pick up and mum getting home! Mine are starving the second they get in the door!

GreyCarpet · Yesterday 10:24

FoldItIn · Yesterday 10:21

Fucking hell. Look how quickly posters latched on to blame the 15 year old instead of the grown man who had been home since 2pm.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I pity how some of you live. You expect nothing from your husband/partner and that must be very hard.
Want more for yourselves and your children.

This in spades!

Some women are so quick to defend men and blame anyone else for their failings.

The wife should have given detailed instructions and sent a text reminder; the 15 year old should have used their initiative...

Unbelievable.

Hatetagsinclothes · Yesterday 10:25

A 15 year old shouldn’t have to make their own dinner at all

GreyCarpet · Yesterday 10:27

Still don't understand how any of the children didn't moan about being hungry between school pick up and mum getting home! Mine are starving the second they get in the door!

Maybe they did. Maybe he ignored them. Maybe they've learnt they's no point asking Dad because it makes no difference. He shouldn't need that to happen though as a reminder. He knows children need be to be fed. He shouldn't need to he reminded of that.

mrsm43s · Yesterday 10:28

FoldItIn · Yesterday 10:21

Fucking hell. Look how quickly posters latched on to blame the 15 year old instead of the grown man who had been home since 2pm.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I pity how some of you live. You expect nothing from your husband/partner and that must be very hard.
Want more for yourselves and your children.

If I ask my 15 year old to do a simple chore to help me out, I expect them to do it. To deliberately disobey me (and then start shit stirring with the other parent) is extremely bad behaviour, of course they should be 'blamed' for that.

A parent asking a 15 year old to do a simple chore to help them out is not bad behaviour. It's part of normal parenting and teaching your child to grow into a functional, self reliant adult.

Seajaye · Yesterday 10:28

TheRealMagic · Yesterday 10:15

Did you have to dig a trench first to set a bar quite that low?

Not that old cliche again.

I did discover quite early on in life that most men are not mind readers and some are idiots and not able to work out the simplest tasks for themselves. If it's a case of learned helplessness, then I think it's easier to prompt by them with some simple instructions to save at lot of angst for everyone in the family, and the need to complain on Mumsnet. You may of course prefer the alternative of waiting until they have learned to use their initiative without prompts, but that might take years.

By OP's own admission there had been recent changes in the family routines, so a bit of prompting might have prevented the problem

HairsprayBabe · Yesterday 10:30

@Hatetagsinclothes this is ridiculous why are we babying teenagers.

There are two separate issues here

DH is in the wrong, he was lazy and feckless to not make his children food before doing his hobby - nobody is not blaming him.

BUT ALSO
15 is old enough to make a family meal

@GreyCarpet there is no evidence of this, OP hasn't even suggested it so that is an odd thing to assume.

SecretsAndLies77 · Yesterday 10:33

I can't get my head around the idea of a father doing that?!

MeowDoku · Yesterday 10:34

Playinwithfire · Yesterday 09:33

Thanks to those of you understanding my frustration!

I don't believe I need to communicate to a grown ass man to feed his children before he does his own thing! That is basic parenting. He does not need to remind me! I was speaking to him, as I always do to let him know I was on my way home. As it was so late, I would assume my children were fed considering he was home in time- before everyone else- to feed them.

8 year olds bed time is 8 o'clock.

You're absolutely right, 15 year old can make themselves food but should not be responsible for feeding the younger ones when one of their parents is at home and has been for 3 hours longer than the 15 year old!
Lazy man child

Ohthatsabitshit · Yesterday 10:37

Any one of them could have made a meal for themselves. What time do you usually eat and why is 4:45 “late”? This sounds like a baked potatoes and cheese/tuna/salad or a beans on toast, or a bread and soup, night. If dh asked your 25 year old to feed his siblings WHY weren’t they fed?

MeowDoku · Yesterday 10:38

HairsprayBabe · Yesterday 10:30

@Hatetagsinclothes this is ridiculous why are we babying teenagers.

There are two separate issues here

DH is in the wrong, he was lazy and feckless to not make his children food before doing his hobby - nobody is not blaming him.

BUT ALSO
15 is old enough to make a family meal

@GreyCarpet there is no evidence of this, OP hasn't even suggested it so that is an odd thing to assume.

Why should the teenager feed the younger children when their own father was home earlier and couldn't be arsed? That's not babying the teenager, that's a grown man needing to parent the young children he chose to have. The 15 year old hasn't got any dependents

Ethelspagetti · Yesterday 10:40

I do think he should have made something for the 8 year old and offered something to the 15 year old, even beans on toast would be okay. I find it strange he didn’t care?! What did he eat??! I’d have a work with him and tell him that he is to always make dinner when you’re working late.

mrsm43s · Yesterday 10:41

MeowDoku · Yesterday 10:38

Why should the teenager feed the younger children when their own father was home earlier and couldn't be arsed? That's not babying the teenager, that's a grown man needing to parent the young children he chose to have. The 15 year old hasn't got any dependents

Because 15 year olds should do simple chores when requested to by their parent. It's not an unreasonable ask.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 10:42

CurlewKate · Yesterday 09:54

And I have to say that even if dp is being pathetic I would expect a 15 year old to be able to take charge- a 15 year old saying “Mummy, I’m hungry” would not impress me at all!

15 year old didn't say that.

Peachghost · Yesterday 10:42

HairsprayBabe · Yesterday 10:01

@Cosyblankets where did I say that?

In the OP she states "DH had been home since 2pm and sorted HIS stuff and then he headed off to his hobby." So he wasn't in the home at dinner time by my reckoning, not just sitting around letting his children go hungry before heading out.

As I also said DH should have sorted it, and she should be annoyed at him.

That does not negate the point that a 15 year old is capable of engaging their brain and putting a frozen pizza (or whatever) in the oven.

You should probably bother to read the OP's posts because your reckoning is wrong. The husband was home until 7pm. Between 2 and 7pm, 5 hours, he did not bother to make his children dinner.