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To cancel holiday because of DS’s behaviour?

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pageknight19 · 21/10/2026 21:15

We are supposed to be going away next week and I’m seriously considering cancelling it because of my youngest DS (14). DH thinks I’m being ridiculous and that the only people who will suffer are the rest of us but I feel like we’re rewarding him for behaving like this.

DS is our youngest by quite a long way, his brothers are 34, 32 and 30. They’re all living independently now and the oldest has a little boy of his own. We are comfortable financially and DS has always had opportunities his brothers had, although I do wonder if we’ve been softer on him because he’s the baby. DH says we haven’t.

He’s at a private school and things have been getting progressively worse over the last couple of years. He’s bright enough but just refuses to do work if he doesn’t feel like it, argues with teachers, has had detentions and suspensions and can be incredibly rude when challenged. He’s also been caught vaping more than once and we’ve found out he’s been drinking with other teenagers. I don’t mean he’s having the odd sip at a family gathering, he’s been drinking when he’s been out with friends and lying about it afterwards. Whenever we talk to him about his behaviour or his future, he shrugs. We’ve had meetings with the school and have been told more than once that his attitude needs to change. We’ve tried consequences at home but nothing seems to make much difference for long.

On Friday before half term we had a meeting and were told he was unlikely to be asked back after the holidays. The latest incident involved a row with another boy which got physical, and then DS swore at a member of staff and refused to go with them when they tried to remove him. The school hasn’t formally expelled him at this point but they’ve made it pretty clear that his place is hanging by a thread and we’re supposed to have further discussions about what happens next.

The thing is we have a holiday booked for next week which was arranged months ago. DS knows what’s happened but seems completely unbothered by it. I am absolutely furious that he doesn’t seem to understand the seriousness of the situation. I’m worrying about finding him another school and what happens if nobody wants him, while he’s carrying on as normal. If you try to talk to him about it, he just says he doesn’t want to go to university anyway, as if the only possible consequence is whether he gets into university.

I said to DH that I think we should cancel the holiday. I don’t mean because I think the school will change its mind if we do, but because I feel like he needs to understand that his behaviour has consequences. DH says it’s too late for that now and all we’d be doing is punishing ourselves and the other boys. He says we can’t spend the next few years cancelling everything because DS has done something wrong and that the holiday was booked and paid for before any of this happened.

I know cancelling a holiday won’t magically sort out his behaviour. But part of me thinks if we just carry on as normal he’ll assume he can do whatever he likes and nothing will change.

WIBU to cancel the holiday? Or would I just be punishing the rest of the family for something that isn’t their fault?

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Skesn · 21/10/2026 22:16

windinthewillows2 · 21/10/2026 22:10

You don't need to tell OP what to ignore. She can decide that for herself.

I'd remove anything that he's not contributing to. He can't expect to take the piss and then be rewarded for it with technology or any other privilege.

Incidentally I have a son this age.

What are you hoping that just doling out a 'no technology' punishment will achieve?

TwinklyAmberSloth · 21/10/2026 22:22

@pageknight19 perhaps the holiday will take him away from normal life and make him talk about what is going on?

I would also take the hint from the school and find him somewhere else. Would the structure of boarding help him?

TheGrimSmile · 21/10/2026 22:25

Well the natural consequence of his behaviour is that he will not have his place at school. That will.be his "conseqence". If he knows this and he carries on then I would assume that he dislikes this school, so may be good for him to change. Or he's struggling due to some underlying issue that you need to get to the bottom of. Maybe counselling would help with that. You would be ridiculous to cancel the holiday. He is clearly unhappy at school and you need to find out why. The drinking and vaping are just standard 14 year old pushing boundaries stuff. I wouldn't get too hung up in that.

Highfivemum · 21/10/2026 22:31

Where does he get the money from for drink and vapes ? If he were mine he would be grounded with all privileges removed. No way would he be going out with his mates.

Millytante · 21/10/2026 22:32

StormKevin · 21/10/2026 21:29

Seemed like a fair comment to me. Perhaps you’ll have to explain your sarcasm?

Agreed: what was that snark about?

interestedandsol · 21/10/2026 22:33

Oh ffs just send him to a state school for a few weeks… he’ll he begging to go back to the cushty private school after getting into a fight with the wrong person at a state school

viques · 21/10/2026 22:33

You are taking three thirty somethings ( one of whom has his own child) on “a family” holiday with you?

No wonder your youngest is entitled.

Incidentally it shows how desperate private schools are for bums on seats that they have been prepared to put up with his appalling behaviour.

justasking111 · 21/10/2026 22:35

Would you consider boarding school @pageknight19 ?

Mapletree1985 · 21/10/2026 22:36

Surely the consequence for his action is getting expelled from school?

pageknight19 · 21/10/2026 22:39

viques · 21/10/2026 22:33

You are taking three thirty somethings ( one of whom has his own child) on “a family” holiday with you?

No wonder your youngest is entitled.

Incidentally it shows how desperate private schools are for bums on seats that they have been prepared to put up with his appalling behaviour.

Plenty of people go on holiday with their families? We don’t see our older DS’s as much as we would all like due to work etc but we aim to get away as a family atleast once a year whether that’s abroad or UK based

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PrincessofWills · 21/10/2026 22:42

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 21/10/2026 21:30

This sounds like great advice to me.

But I do think this is (one of) the problems with private schools - the child has no right to a place and can just be kicked out at the first sign of trouble

That is clearly not what is happening here. If you read Ops first post she clearly stated his behaviour has deteriorated over the last couple of years.
If he had been in the state system he would probably be beyond redemption by now.

Ablondiebutagoody · 21/10/2026 22:42

Send him to the local comp. That'll open his eyes.

Arabelllllllla · 21/10/2026 22:44

viques · 21/10/2026 22:33

You are taking three thirty somethings ( one of whom has his own child) on “a family” holiday with you?

No wonder your youngest is entitled.

Incidentally it shows how desperate private schools are for bums on seats that they have been prepared to put up with his appalling behaviour.

What a mean and unhelpful comment. Plenty of families go away on holiday together because they actually like spending time together. Nothing to do with being entitled.

Not everyone is miserable and joyless! You could take a leaf out of their book.

NewNameW · 21/10/2026 22:47

Cancelling something that benefits others basically proves to him, if he's a dick, everyone suffers - Can't you leave him with an auntie/uncle who will see through a grounding/no tech whilst everyone elses has a lovely time on holiday?

tomorrowfollowstoday · 21/10/2026 22:48

pageknight19 · 21/10/2026 21:39

It's not just sips of alcohol though, he regularly takes it and drinks with his friends and then lies even though it’s obvious. The same with the vapes.

Even if uni isn’t for him (fine) he still needs to get through the next few years with a school, private won’t want him because they’ll want to know what happened at his previous school, he’s been at his current one since he was 7. We’ve tried talking to him, shouting at him, consequences, asking him why he behaves like this, if there’s issues with school etc but nothing. DS2 tried talking to him and he was told that “maybe he should mind his business”. He has had holidays so he’s not hard done by but his behaviour also isn’t much better at him attitude wise, we have very little of a relationship with him because he thinks he can do as he pleases and if we tell him otherwise and give him boundaries he does it anyway and we get net with swearing, he’s gone to hit DH before, his behaviour is just getting worse not better and our older boys weren’t like this, we had the usual teen moodiness and occasional attitude but it wasn’t to this extent, or maybe Im just misremembering but I don’t think it was!

Stop comparing to the older boys.

This child is extremely unhappy - why? Try to focus on what's going wrong for him.

How is he able to be drinking in this city - the adults are not protecting him. Where are his parents while he's doing this?

tomorrowfollowstoday · 21/10/2026 22:49

viques · 21/10/2026 22:33

You are taking three thirty somethings ( one of whom has his own child) on “a family” holiday with you?

No wonder your youngest is entitled.

Incidentally it shows how desperate private schools are for bums on seats that they have been prepared to put up with his appalling behaviour.

Good grief, some families enjoy time together.

Crazybigtoe · 21/10/2026 22:51

Is he doing other drugs? Alcohol plus vaping plus cannabis is common. Puberty plus drugs could account for change in behaviour. Puberty alone could too- he may not open up because he may not have the words to know what is going on. Anything else happening? Self harm, low mood etc? Get appointment at GP.

Talk to him about safety. When drunk. Assume that he is getting drunk- and not just tipsy. Talk to him about being vulnerable when drunk. How his behaviour might change etc that if his friends are drunk, look after them. This approach might work rather than abstinence or yelling. You want to build bridges. That doesn't mean you are being permissive.

State schools aren't tolerant of weed / vaping either. So if he moves into state sector, if he keeps it up, he could be kicked out or sent to an off site facility. Going to state school also doesn't mean he will be beaten up (like poster said up thread). There are huge swathes of perfectly decent kids attending state schools up and down the country.

If he is going to move, he needs to do so now. You'll need to organise over the holidays. You'll need to speak to state system tomorrow as during hols it will all slow down. Places are tight and year 10 isn't a great time to move- but it will be worse the later you leave it. In fact it's mean of your current school not to give clarity on this point.

Maybeitllneverhappen · 21/10/2026 22:53

If you want to use the holiday as punishment, it seems like you and the older boys go on it and your husband stays behind and makes sure he doesn't go out, catches up school work and has a miserable time. Otherwise as others have said, the rest of the family gets punished too. I suggest your husband, as presumably your son is not small and if he decides he was going out you would struggle to physically prevent him.

CypressGrove · 21/10/2026 22:56

I wouldn't cancel, I'd try and spend as much quality time together doing whatever it is you enjoy together one-on-one and see if he'll open up to you (or his dad if that works better, ie morning runs, board games etc. I feel like it must be a strange place in the family for him - three much older siblings that were very close in age, and then him - almost like an only child but not.

Seagulldancing · 21/10/2026 22:56

Who is he hanging out with "in the city"? That seems unusual to let your young teenager go off like that, unless you know these kids? He seems spoiled and under supervised.
Holiday doesn't matter, he's already ruined it by being asked to leave school. So make the most of any relaxation you can squeeze out of it before you go finding him a new school.

OriginalUsername2 · 21/10/2026 22:57

I wouldn’t cancel the holiday, I’d use it as an opportunity to get his multiple older brothers to try and talk some sense into him.

WanderlustMom · 21/10/2026 23:03

viques · 21/10/2026 22:33

You are taking three thirty somethings ( one of whom has his own child) on “a family” holiday with you?

No wonder your youngest is entitled.

Incidentally it shows how desperate private schools are for bums on seats that they have been prepared to put up with his appalling behaviour.

Eh. I have two kids and I still go on holiday with my parents and siblings once a year. What’s wrong with that? Confused

ProcrastinatorsAnonymous · 21/10/2026 23:03

I'd send DH and adult kids on the holiday while you stay at home with DS and see if you can schedule some therapy appts with him to get to the bottom of this.

AmnesiacDream · 21/10/2026 23:05

I agree with your DH that canceling the holiday is punishing everyone else at least as much as DS. Though I agree with others that going when perhaps you should be using the time to find another school is more of a question.

Punishment seems unlikely to work in this situation. He isn't going to be scared straight. He needs something to positive to aim for. This is his life he's ruining and it seems like he isn't invested in it. That's the issue. Removing all the things he does like isn't going to help him get more invested. Thought if some things are pulling him down into a dark place (e.g. these new friends or being online too much, etc.) then that might be a reason to ban or limit something.

Also, it sounds like you desperately need to connect with him, and the holiday is probably as good an opportunity as you're going to get.

It's scary when kids get like this. They're too old to just "tell". They need to be invested. And sometimes you just can't seem to reach them. Most do turn things around eventually. Maybe they end up a few years behind where they could have been, but they find their way. You really don't want to completely alienate him before that happens. I would look for a family therapist who specialises in Systemic Family Therapy and helping parents navigate teenagers who have gone off the rails a bit. If your DS won't go, then it's still useful for you and DH, so you have a safe place, somewhere to vent, an experienced hand to talk to, and help to avoid blowing things up with DS when it gets tougher (which it probably will).

justasking111 · 21/10/2026 23:20

AmnesiacDream · 21/10/2026 23:05

I agree with your DH that canceling the holiday is punishing everyone else at least as much as DS. Though I agree with others that going when perhaps you should be using the time to find another school is more of a question.

Punishment seems unlikely to work in this situation. He isn't going to be scared straight. He needs something to positive to aim for. This is his life he's ruining and it seems like he isn't invested in it. That's the issue. Removing all the things he does like isn't going to help him get more invested. Thought if some things are pulling him down into a dark place (e.g. these new friends or being online too much, etc.) then that might be a reason to ban or limit something.

Also, it sounds like you desperately need to connect with him, and the holiday is probably as good an opportunity as you're going to get.

It's scary when kids get like this. They're too old to just "tell". They need to be invested. And sometimes you just can't seem to reach them. Most do turn things around eventually. Maybe they end up a few years behind where they could have been, but they find their way. You really don't want to completely alienate him before that happens. I would look for a family therapist who specialises in Systemic Family Therapy and helping parents navigate teenagers who have gone off the rails a bit. If your DS won't go, then it's still useful for you and DH, so you have a safe place, somewhere to vent, an experienced hand to talk to, and help to avoid blowing things up with DS when it gets tougher (which it probably will).

I do know of a private school who have worked miracles with children like this one. But it's not only the child that needs educating but the parents and wider family.

A meeting with a specialist is a good idea in the first instance. If a child can understand why they are behaving like this, and the parents can understand. Barriers can be weakened.

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