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To cancel holiday because of DS’s behaviour?

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pageknight19 · 21/10/2026 21:15

We are supposed to be going away next week and I’m seriously considering cancelling it because of my youngest DS (14). DH thinks I’m being ridiculous and that the only people who will suffer are the rest of us but I feel like we’re rewarding him for behaving like this.

DS is our youngest by quite a long way, his brothers are 34, 32 and 30. They’re all living independently now and the oldest has a little boy of his own. We are comfortable financially and DS has always had opportunities his brothers had, although I do wonder if we’ve been softer on him because he’s the baby. DH says we haven’t.

He’s at a private school and things have been getting progressively worse over the last couple of years. He’s bright enough but just refuses to do work if he doesn’t feel like it, argues with teachers, has had detentions and suspensions and can be incredibly rude when challenged. He’s also been caught vaping more than once and we’ve found out he’s been drinking with other teenagers. I don’t mean he’s having the odd sip at a family gathering, he’s been drinking when he’s been out with friends and lying about it afterwards. Whenever we talk to him about his behaviour or his future, he shrugs. We’ve had meetings with the school and have been told more than once that his attitude needs to change. We’ve tried consequences at home but nothing seems to make much difference for long.

On Friday before half term we had a meeting and were told he was unlikely to be asked back after the holidays. The latest incident involved a row with another boy which got physical, and then DS swore at a member of staff and refused to go with them when they tried to remove him. The school hasn’t formally expelled him at this point but they’ve made it pretty clear that his place is hanging by a thread and we’re supposed to have further discussions about what happens next.

The thing is we have a holiday booked for next week which was arranged months ago. DS knows what’s happened but seems completely unbothered by it. I am absolutely furious that he doesn’t seem to understand the seriousness of the situation. I’m worrying about finding him another school and what happens if nobody wants him, while he’s carrying on as normal. If you try to talk to him about it, he just says he doesn’t want to go to university anyway, as if the only possible consequence is whether he gets into university.

I said to DH that I think we should cancel the holiday. I don’t mean because I think the school will change its mind if we do, but because I feel like he needs to understand that his behaviour has consequences. DH says it’s too late for that now and all we’d be doing is punishing ourselves and the other boys. He says we can’t spend the next few years cancelling everything because DS has done something wrong and that the holiday was booked and paid for before any of this happened.

I know cancelling a holiday won’t magically sort out his behaviour. But part of me thinks if we just carry on as normal he’ll assume he can do whatever he likes and nothing will change.

WIBU to cancel the holiday? Or would I just be punishing the rest of the family for something that isn’t their fault?

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pageknight19 · 21/10/2026 21:39

It's not just sips of alcohol though, he regularly takes it and drinks with his friends and then lies even though it’s obvious. The same with the vapes.

Even if uni isn’t for him (fine) he still needs to get through the next few years with a school, private won’t want him because they’ll want to know what happened at his previous school, he’s been at his current one since he was 7. We’ve tried talking to him, shouting at him, consequences, asking him why he behaves like this, if there’s issues with school etc but nothing. DS2 tried talking to him and he was told that “maybe he should mind his business”. He has had holidays so he’s not hard done by but his behaviour also isn’t much better at him attitude wise, we have very little of a relationship with him because he thinks he can do as he pleases and if we tell him otherwise and give him boundaries he does it anyway and we get net with swearing, he’s gone to hit DH before, his behaviour is just getting worse not better and our older boys weren’t like this, we had the usual teen moodiness and occasional attitude but it wasn’t to this extent, or maybe Im just misremembering but I don’t think it was!

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BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 21:41

I was going to suggest a school if you are near London but actually I don’t think he’s in the right place.

this is really hard - are all of his friends at his current school?

SucksToBeYou · 21/10/2026 21:43

StormKevin · 21/10/2026 21:29

Seemed like a fair comment to me. Perhaps you’ll have to explain your sarcasm?

I cant be bothered spoon feeding you the information. Read the OP again.

SucksToBeYou · 21/10/2026 21:46

Coffeeathovima · 21/10/2026 21:34

Knock yourself out and enlighten me

No. Read the OP again. Then think about how you can respond without needlessly sticking the boot in.

Meand2Ls · 21/10/2026 21:47

Would he even think that was punishment though? I’m not sure maybe 14 year olds would be gutted about staying home with their friends over a family holiday

Coffeeathovima · 21/10/2026 21:50

SucksToBeYou · 21/10/2026 21:46

No. Read the OP again. Then think about how you can respond without needlessly sticking the boot in.

I am bloody surprised that the Op is worrying about a weeks holiday rather than what happens re her son and his eduction post holiday.

What’s your contribution?

BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 21:50

When a private school says what they said they are basically expelling him but giving you the chance to do a managed move. They will have some suggestions of schools that may work for him or issues they think need addressing. As he has been there so long they will hopefully be helpful. Private schools don’t like to have a lot of expulsions on their records.

if he is year 9 it’s not so bad and consider taking your time for a January start. if year 10 it’s a bit trickier.

consider how you can use the next couple of months to set him straight - taking him away from the area, therapy etc etc

Coffeeathovima · 21/10/2026 21:51

I don’t see him even wanting to go… presumably with just you and your husband? He knows that it will likely be a lot of talking about his behaviour and he will be away from his mates.

I think this will be exactly what he wants… not to go

windinthewillows2 · 21/10/2026 21:53

Remove all privileges. Money, devices, tv. No more new clothes. Make him work for money. Get him interested in a hobby - sport, scouts, cycling or mtn biking, cadets, and reading.

GoodGirlFaith · 21/10/2026 21:54

Sounds like a normal teenager rebelling against people who assume he’s academic. He says he’s not interested in going to university, try listening to him.

WhosGotTheKeysToMyBimma · 21/10/2026 21:54

I would say whether you go on the holiday is largely irrelevant. I think OP you are focusing on it as something under your control because you are struggling with your youngest

Autumnalhibernationisthedream · 21/10/2026 21:58

Do you not think there must be something behind this? Is he miserable about something? Missing all his siblings? Being bullied? Learning difficulties? Sounds like life is crap for him at the moment, taking a holiday away isn’t going to help anything

Pinkflamingo10 · 21/10/2026 21:59

Have you brought him to a psychologist ?

TerrysNeapolitan · 21/10/2026 22:01

I think as others have suggested, go on holiday and use the time away from basecamp to try and communicate with him and get to the bottom of the issues or issues.

CostcoFanofThree · 21/10/2026 22:02

holiday or not, local state or another type of school, I’d focus on a psych appointment to double check any learning difficulties.

Coffeeathovima · 21/10/2026 22:03

windinthewillows2 · 21/10/2026 21:53

Remove all privileges. Money, devices, tv. No more new clothes. Make him work for money. Get him interested in a hobby - sport, scouts, cycling or mtn biking, cadets, and reading.

Ignore the remove all devices

Octavia64 · 21/10/2026 22:04

The holiday doesn’t really matter.

many 14 year olds do not want to go on holiday with their family and would consider it being cancelled a plus.

if you are going to try to do punishments (probably not worth it) you do need to make sure it is actually a punishment.

Skesn · 21/10/2026 22:08

Punishment doesn't feel right here at all.

Your DS does need to change his behaviour, but until you understand what's underpinning it, that's not going to happen. He's displaying all the signs of needing change, connection and compassion.

Go carefully and build trust. Hopefully, on holiday, he might talk to you.

Skatefordinner · 21/10/2026 22:08

I’m prepared for people to roll their eyes at this as someone said earlier on but… have you ever considered that he might have ADHD? Those of us who suggest it tend to have experienced similar behaviours to this first hand.
Particularly telling that he’s got 3 older siblings who presumably had a similar upbringing and none of them has these issues. It’s incongruent.

My DS had pretty much all of the same issues as yours at 14 and on one of the many many calls home, one of his teachers suggested I got him assessed. It still took me another 12 months of tearing my hair out to do it.

Once he was diagnosed and on medication everything changed almost overnight. Pretty much all of the difficult behaviours went away. He’d been really struggling with concentration in class and at home , plus impulsive behaviour which resulted in all of the issues we were/ he was experiencing . I would definitely look into it.

This is connected to your question by the way. If it is ADHD (which obviously you don’t know if it is) then a lot (not all of course) of these impulsive behaviours won’t be within his control which is the reason that consequences don’t work.

Whether it is or it isn’t, I still don’t think you should cancel the holiday. You are at a turning point now which next steps and the holiday could be a chance to have some quality time and less pressured conversations with him with a change of scenary. You need him to be receptive and on board and this is unlikely to come if he’s miserable and angry in his room all week.

Don’t think of it as rewarding ‘bad’ behaviour, look at it as an opportunity for you as a family to regroup, spend some (hopefully) nice time together and reframe your relationship/ discuss ‘what next’ hopefully once some lightness and good feeling has been restored.

Catza · 21/10/2026 22:08

So the holiday includes the entire family, adult children and all? If so, why cancel? Let them go and stay home with your youngest if you feel very strongly about it. For what it's worth, I suspect he is not exactly delighted to go away with his entire family anyway so I am not sure how effective this "punishment" is likely to be. But if you think it would be, there is no need for anyone else to miss out on their trip.

windinthewillows2 · 21/10/2026 22:10

Coffeeathovima · 21/10/2026 22:03

Ignore the remove all devices

You don't need to tell OP what to ignore. She can decide that for herself.

I'd remove anything that he's not contributing to. He can't expect to take the piss and then be rewarded for it with technology or any other privilege.

Incidentally I have a son this age.

pageknight19 · 21/10/2026 22:12

He was top of the class up until the start of year 8, he’s now year 10 albeit the youngest in his year. Hes not particularly sporty but he really enjoyed tennis (only sport he did enjoy) and was part of the school tennis team, going to tournaments etc, he would go and play with DH outside of school, he plays guitar and we paid for guitar lessons until he broke his guitar on purpose. He honestly tried most clubs out, art, musical theatre , choir, running, lego, minecraft, D&D and of course they all didn’t stick but he enjoyed trying them to find out what he enjoyed.

He did have friends at school but since he’s started misbehaving a lot have distanced themselves - I don’t blame them tbh they just want to get ok with their studies. He now goes to a nearby city and hangs around with other boys who he considers closer friends but he’s currently grounded.

The holiday is with me, DH and his brothers and baby nephew, he has plenty of holidays with us and it’s not that he’d rather be with his mates, he does want to come and he has fun when he’s on holiday with us but it feels like rewarding him for his behaviour. I have no idea what’s going to happen in a fortnight

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BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 22:13

Yes academically bright but not engaging is quite common with various learning difficulties - slow processing, dyspraxia etc etc

getting a diagnosis can be life changing if done in time

of course it could be none of these things but I think I would try and find out if there are any underlying issues that may have been missed

its not easy OP

BeardySchnauzer · 21/10/2026 22:15

Xpost - I wouldn’t cancel the holiday and if he is summer born I would consider holding him back a year.

spend the holiday just relaxing and trying to get him to talk. Getting him away from his friends sounds like a good thing and I would worry that when he leaves the school he might spiral of you haven’t a grip of the underlying

Thesque · 21/10/2026 22:16

If the holiday is just the three of you I would cancel. You would spend the week seething. I don't agree that 14 year olds don't want to go on a family holiday. I imagine it's something expensive and luxurious that he's used to.
Spend the time searching for another school. His school have given you a get out so you can say he chose to leave.

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