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I HATE my son I can’t do this anymore

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rambleberry · 13/10/2026 20:41

I honestly dont even know why I’m posting. I just feel like I cant do this anymore.

He’s 13, turned 13 three weeks ago. I know he’s a child and I know how bad this sounds but I hate him. I hate saying that about my own child but I am at the end of my tether and nobody seems to listen when I say how bad things have got.

His dad died when he was 7 and I’ve brought him up on my own since then. I know he’s had a lot to deal with but I cant keep excusing everything because of that. I dont know what else I’m supposed to do.

This morning school sent him home because he was sick. He’s been sick again since he’s been home but he went to sleep for a bit and seems fine now. He asked if he could go out tonight and I said no because he’s been ill and I dont want him going out and then being sick again somewhere. That was it. Apparently I’m picking on him because he’s been ill, I’m always ruining everything and I never let him do anything. He started shouting at me and calling me names. I said I wasnt arguing about it and he got even worse.

He’s shoved past me to get out of the room and shouted that he hopes I die. Just screamed it at me. I honestly dont even know what to say to that anymore. I told him to get away from me and he carried on shouting. Now he’s in his room and I’m downstairs trying to calm down and he’s probably forgotten all about it already.

This is what its like here all the time. I can ask him to do something completely normal and it turns into a massive argument. He calls me a stupid bitch, pathetic, thick, says nobody respects me and that I’m a shit mum. If I get upset he says I’m being dramatic. If I shout back then apparently I’m the one with the problem. He knows exactly what to say to hurt me and sometimes I honestly think he does it on purpose.

I know I let him get away with things. I tell him the xbox is going off and he argues for ages, swearing and following me around the house, and sometimes I just give up and let him carry on because I havent got the energy for another row. Same with his phone. I’ve taken it off him because of things I’ve found on there and then ended up giving it back because I just cant cope with hours of shouting. I know people will say I’m making a rod for my own back and maybe I am but I’m so tired. I cant spend every evening fighting with a 13 year old.

The stuff he says online worries me as well. I’ve seen messages where he’s making really nasty comments about girls at school, mocking their looks and saying things about women being good for one thing. He’s watching these men online who talk about women like they’re worthless and repeating what they say. When I challenge him he tells me I know nothing and girls are just as bad. He doesnt seem to see anything wrong with it. I’ve tried putting restrictions on his phone but he gets round them and then I’m back to another argument.

I have tried asking for help and I honestly feel like I’m talking to a brick wall. He seems to have no limit to how nasty he can be when he’s angry. He’ll say the most horrible thing imaginable and then carry on as if nothing happened. I dont know how I’m supposed to keep dealing with this on my own.

I’ve even thought about ringing social services and saying I dont want him anymore. I havent done it but the thought has crossed my mind more than once. Just saying I cant have him here, I cant do this anymore, someone else needs to take over because I’m done. Then I feel disgusting for even thinking it because he’s my child and he’s only 13. But I genuinely dont know how much longer I can keep living like this. I dont want to abandon him but I also dont know how to help him when nobody seems willing to help us.

I hate what our relationship has become. I dread him coming home sometimes. When he’s out I feel relieved and then feel guilty for feeling relieved. I dont even want to speak to him after what he’s just said to me. I know people will say I’m the adult and I shouldnt feel like this but I’m a person as well and I can only take so much.

I know I’m not perfect and I shout and lose my temper. Sometimes I give in because I just want peace. I’m not proud of it. I just feel like I’ve reached the point where I dont know what to do next.

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Franpie · 13/10/2026 22:15

rambleberry · 13/10/2026 21:57

He has no male role models really. His brother is 13 too, (they have a 10 month age gap, they arent twins) and he was 8 when their dad died so he went through that too, he was only little himself but he isnt too bad, he can be moody and argumentative and a pain at times but generally he’s fine. They are horrible to each other though because they are complete opposites.

Eldest is much more sociable and confident, has friends and is happy going out and doing things. Youngest is more academic I would say, so they both have their own strengths.

As soon as youngest started year 7 he started saying he had no friends and eldest would back him up and say whenever he saw him at school he was on his own. He would do things like stand in the middle of eldest’s football game with his friends, which obviously got a reaction from them. He was also really focused on his appearance and would keep looking at his reflection in windows when he was outside. Other children started calling him weird and gay. I dont think he is, it was just an insult other 11/12 year olds were throwing around, but obviously it didnt help things.

Whenever I spoke to school about it his tutor would say they had no concerns and that when they spoke to him he said he was fine and wasnt unhappy. So I was being told one thing at home and another thing by school. Meanwhile his behaviour just got worse and worse throughout year 7.

The summer holidays were hell with both boys home all the time and now we’re here. I feel like its been building up for ages and I dont know how to get through to him anymore.

He doesnt really like sports either. He likes football but mainly watching it rather than playing, so its not like I can just get him involved in a team and hope that helps. I honestly dont know what the answer is.

I don’t know if you watched that Manosphere documentary by Louis Theroux, OP, but the common denominator between all the men featured was that they were raised by hard-working single mothers.

I found it so surprising that they had such little respect for women when they were raised by such amazing, strong female role models. But I guess it makes sense as they had no male role models to try to live up to. I think it’s really important for you to try and find that for both your boys. Is there a club they can join? Voluntary work they could do? Boxing? Martial arts?

FiveOne · 13/10/2026 22:19

Just going to echo what others have said and put a stop to internet access, as well as reach out to the school for an Early Help plan. Worth asking what the school think of his behaviour eg is he disruptive in lessons, or just at home?

I know this doesn't help anything, but he will lash out in the place he feels safest - with you. I really hope you can both become a good team together

Awkwardisfunny · 13/10/2026 22:20

Calliopespa · 13/10/2026 21:55

It wouldn't hurt to try if OP has someone. I don't think this is the time to be cutting off lifelines.

She needs support right now.

I agree with trying family members / friends but gender isn't relevant. I just cannot listen to one more person tell me how much lads respond to 'male figures' over female ones. It's just not true. I won't list my experience for privacy reasons. But it isn't true at all.

Another poster even commented about her son's grandmother having been able to sort her kid out 😂

We don't give lads/men enough credit. Do people really think lads like this one are just purely sexist and hate women and can't hear a female voice and respond well? Not at all. Lads/men are capable of respecting women. But the woman in question has to warrant being respected. As do male caregivers.

The OP freely admits she doesn't stick to her guns, has no boundaries and isn't an authoritative figure for him. That's a personality issue, not a gender issue.

So, yes to trying other people in the child's life, but it's a no from me on assuming it must be someone male.

Periperi2025 · 13/10/2026 22:24

Some of his behaviour is normal for his developmental age, which is good even if it doesn't feel it.

As others have said, manage his internet access better. He is getting his language and attitude to women from somewhere! Screens only when he is in a room with you to start, lots of parental controls in place. When he has calmed down from the internet ban, start talking to him, ask him what he has been watching, what his friends watch, what he thinks of it, teach him about how to critically analyse what he is seeing on the internet and the algorithms that control what he is seeing. Knowing that a computer and a few powerful rich guys are trying to brainwash and control you is a powerful lesson.

Try to access some bereavement counselling for him. Look at charities related to the reason his Dad died.

Does he have any positive male role models in his life, can you find one for him?

Periperi2025 · 13/10/2026 22:26

Awkwardisfunny · 13/10/2026 22:20

I agree with trying family members / friends but gender isn't relevant. I just cannot listen to one more person tell me how much lads respond to 'male figures' over female ones. It's just not true. I won't list my experience for privacy reasons. But it isn't true at all.

Another poster even commented about her son's grandmother having been able to sort her kid out 😂

We don't give lads/men enough credit. Do people really think lads like this one are just purely sexist and hate women and can't hear a female voice and respond well? Not at all. Lads/men are capable of respecting women. But the woman in question has to warrant being respected. As do male caregivers.

The OP freely admits she doesn't stick to her guns, has no boundaries and isn't an authoritative figure for him. That's a personality issue, not a gender issue.

So, yes to trying other people in the child's life, but it's a no from me on assuming it must be someone male.

It needs to be male because he has a mum who contrary to what her thread title says clearly loves him and puts huge amount in to raising him. What he is lacking a male role model because his Dad died when he was tiny.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 13/10/2026 22:28

I think getting him safe online (and off so much tech generally) is a priority.

Do you have a trusted brother, cousin, uncle, male friend, friend's husband, male colleague who might be able to come over and back you up and explain why you are changing his phone etc. Even spend time with him once a week?

Look at parenting courses your council offer for parents of teens specifically if you haven't already. If nothing else it may help you feel less alone in the problems you're facing. You may find NVR training helpful.

It does sound like he is seeing any attention as good attention and you may have to work REALLY hard to focus on the good in him - tiny moments worth praise - and ignore the bad behaviour (while not ignoring him or his feelings... It's an art!). Consistency is absolutely key, and to do that and stay calm you need lots of self care and compassion. So looking after yourself is really important.

It must be extremely hard for you to parent alone, I feel for you. Hope you can get some support.

hcee19 · 13/10/2026 22:28

I can hear your despair while reading your post. I am so, so, sorry you are in this appalling situation. There is some help out there. PEGS, it offers help & support for parents who are experiencing physical, verbal and emotional abuse from their child. Also there is CAMHS, NSPCC , & childrens social services can all help? As always there could be a long waiting list, would he go and see his GP? Everything is worth trying, you have nothing to lose. If you can keep a detailed log , noting, times dates, direct quotes, incidents of verbal attacks etc.Keep all texts he may send if they are abusive or threatening. Try & track signs of distress, & any anxiety like if his sleep is being affected, problems with friends and school? Speak with his school. Do you know his friends? I know l have bombarded you will alot , but you matter too. You have to sort it as soon , otherwise it could very well get worse, by totally ignoring what you say, going out when you told him he can't, he could start pushing you about etc. These teenager boys grow up & many are alot stronger than their mothers. You will get the help you need & l promise you, you will not have bad thoughts about him ( which is very common) all his life. Do not blame yourself, your ds clearly has some issues, which can be sorted My first point of call would be your GP. If he won't go with you, you can speak with his g.p. on his behalf as he's under age . Good luck

user1471497170 · 13/10/2026 22:28

I think you are doing your best and are implementing boundaries - for example you didn't let him go out and stuck to this. Yes you could go further and not relent with internet/phones etc. However not many parents have had to deal with a teen who is angry and abusive to this extent. It is easier said than done and you are probably frightened of him. Reach out for early help and try and remember that he does not mean the nasty words he says. They are just words. There's some good advice on here about getting him into a sport such as boxing. That might help. If he gets physical with you then call police to come and speak to him.

Fernsarethebestplants · 13/10/2026 22:28

Awkwardisfunny · 13/10/2026 22:20

I agree with trying family members / friends but gender isn't relevant. I just cannot listen to one more person tell me how much lads respond to 'male figures' over female ones. It's just not true. I won't list my experience for privacy reasons. But it isn't true at all.

Another poster even commented about her son's grandmother having been able to sort her kid out 😂

We don't give lads/men enough credit. Do people really think lads like this one are just purely sexist and hate women and can't hear a female voice and respond well? Not at all. Lads/men are capable of respecting women. But the woman in question has to warrant being respected. As do male caregivers.

The OP freely admits she doesn't stick to her guns, has no boundaries and isn't an authoritative figure for him. That's a personality issue, not a gender issue.

So, yes to trying other people in the child's life, but it's a no from me on assuming it must be someone male.

It's not necessarily a personality issue. It's very hard to parent bereaved children as you have to be both the kind soft parent and the more disciplined one all rolled into one person when you are also deep in grief yourself. It is very difficult to be appropriately tough with bereaved children, and you can end up trying to compensate for their loss as well as not responding in your usual ways. It is also the case that single mums find this particularly hard with adult-sized male teens, just as women find many men intimidating in their personal lives; you can't just personality your way out of all intimidation otherwise wouldn't have the high DV rates we have. It's also easier to be tougher with two parents tag-teaming it and finding solidarity. I found those early days of solo parenting bereaved children the worst, almost impossible to get right.

OP, you have had good advice about setting up something with the school, reaching out to charities who may offer support (although my own experience is they promise a lot but getting a consistent counsellor/therapist experienced in this is much harder and often a question of paying) and finding non-violent ways to get a cooperative working home where things do not escalate out of your control, I hope you find a way forward.

rambleberry · 13/10/2026 22:29

we dont really talk properly if I’m honest because he just ignores me most of the time. He’s really into music and I do try to make an effort with things he likes but it usually ends up in an argument or him telling me I’ve ruined it somehow.

He asked for My Chemical Romance tickets for the summer just gone and had found some on resale. I said no because it was in London which is a long way for us and I personally think 12 is too young for that kind of concert, especially as he’d never been to one before. He went absolutely mad about it and said that’s why he never talks to me about anything. I wasnt trying to stop him enjoying things, I just didnt think it was suitable.

I booked Spider-Man tickets at the cinema for him because he likes Marvel and thought it would be something we could do together. We went and afterwards he complained about how awful it was watching it with me and said he hates Spider-Man and Marvel. He doesnt even hate them, he loves Marvel! I just felt like I couldnt win whatever I did.

Same when I tried taking them to Nandos. He refused to get out of the car at first, then eventually came in and sat there with his AirPods in listening to music. I left him to it because I wasnt going to start another argument in a restaurant. He kept saying why are you talking about me, to me and his brother when we werent even talking about him. Then he refused to eat the food and said he’d rather starve than eat anything I’d bought him.

He can be very dramatic but his behaviour now is just awful. I do miss being able to have a normal conversation with him or do something together without it turning into a disaster.

at school he is getting behaviour points for being disruptive and ignoring teachers if they shorten his name. He refuses to get changed for PE, things like that, but then there are incidents which are much more serious. He shouted in a girl’s face because she was laughing at him. He was put in isolation straight away and after speaking to his head of year he did write her an apology letter. I dont know if he actually meant what he wrote though.

He has one of the worst behaviour records in year 8. I had a meeting with school last month and he honestly seemed proud of it, which I found really upsetting. He’s been put on report and has to take it to his HOY at the end of each day so they can see how his day has gone. I dont know if its actually helping much yet.

I will keep trying with school but I have been raising concerns since year 7 and I feel like I’m constantly chasing people and getting nowhere. I know I need to try and have some positive experiences with him but its hard when even the things I arrange because I think he’ll enjoy them seem to end with him being horrible to me. I dont want our relationship to be like this

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CrazyMidget · 13/10/2026 22:31

OP, I know it's hard when you feel so worn down, but can you ground him for a week each time he shouts at you? I feel there should be consequences for treating his mother so horribly.

Or....devilish idea incoming: Sit him down and talk to him lovingly and calmly with deep concern in your voice. Tell him that the two of you living together isn't working out. That he seems to really hate you, and you love him so much that all you want is for him to be happy. Then ask how he would like to go and live with another family. Say that Social Services can arrange for him to be taken away if he finds that his home and his mother are bad for his wellbeing. 😂 Of course, you won't mean a sodding word of it. But it will give him a shock and make him realise that actions have consequences. Not consequences as in punishment, but natural consequences, as they will appear to him. The consequence being that he's been so horrible to his mother that she really thinks he might be happier going to live with strangers. 🤣 Say "Just think about it" and end the conversation. I bet you he'll calm right down and be like "Nooooo, I don't want to live with another family! I'm sorry, Mum!"

Then you can float the idea of therapy.

Force clearly isn't working - sounds like you're not a soft touch - so a bit of craftiness is in order, I feel. He's only 13. You can outwit him.

Cupofteaafterwards · 13/10/2026 22:33

OP, I'm sorry to hear all you've been through and well done on being brave enough to ask for advice on here - you are obviously a good person and a good mum. Could you touch base with a liaison person/pastoral support/leaning support teacher at school? Could you get him counselling 1-1? He needs to talk to someone outside the family.
I have two 13 year old boys (twins) and they only got phones in June (they turned 13 in April) but I held out as your story is any of us... the stuff they can access online and override the system because our kids are way more tech savvy than us. Even then, they are the bain of my life in trying to get homework and study done. My boys play sport and withdrawing them from the training sessions or matches as a punishment works better than confiscating their phones (which I do, and they'll get it back when I see an improvement - no timeframe). You are on your own and this issue is bigger than you so I think you need to reach out to professionals to help you both. You are not a failure - you're doing your best in difficult circumstances and you need a little support from others this. Like anyone would x

HesterLeggatt · 13/10/2026 22:35

WiFi password changes every day. Next day’s password has to be earned by positive behaviour. Get yourself some good noise cancelling headphones and the minute he starts yelling just put them on and completely ignore it.

ThatLemonBee · 13/10/2026 22:37

Sorry but 99% of what you describe is made by a mix of trauma and your behaviour towards him . You probably let rules lax due to his loss and now you are reaping the consequences. Yes he is being awful but none of what you describe as Luke make me hate my son and that tells me the way he behaves is probably a reflection of how you baheve towards him . Get some help for you and him before it gets worse

Deafnotdumb · 13/10/2026 22:38

Flowers OP, teenage boys often have horrible, hormonal years phases even without internet radicalisation or bereavement.

To echo the others: go old-school. Cancel his phone plan or replace it with a brick, take away the Xbox and give it to a friend. Make it clear that him bullying you will not make a difference as it's literally out of your hands. The same applies to Wifi: depending on your router you can automatically switch it off via parental controls or the Wireless Schedule. You already know you will give in through sheer exhaustion: this takes away the decision.

The other essential thing: get him outdoors into a group. If you have a good Scout or Cadets in area, they can work wonders for peer support, self-esteem, males role models and knackering him out.

Finally - apologies if you have already heard of, or used these charities, but they might be able to help you. Pennies to pounds, your son is not the first angry young person they've seen: and you need someone to talk too, as well.

https://www.cruse.org.uk/
https://www.thegoodgrieftrust.org/
https://www.childbereavementuk.org/

Specifically for angry teens:

https://www.coramfamilylives.org.uk/how-we-can-help/confidential-helpline/
https://www.headroomcharity.co.uk/services-for-young-people/anger-management/
https://www.youngminds.org.uk/
https://gritcharity.org/about/

Good luck. You don't sound like a shit mum: just an exhausted one dealing with a massive burden.

Cruse Bereavement Support

Grief can be overwhelming - you don't have to deal with it alone. Cruse Bereavement Support is here. Call our helpline or chat online.

https://www.cruse.org.uk

Ladamesansmerci · 13/10/2026 22:38

Hamg in there, OP. This sounds so hard.

Ask for early help support.

He's an emotionally vulnerable child due to losing one of his main attachment figures and main male role model. He sounds very angry. Incel crap should be treated as a form of radicalisation. If he can't go via CAMHS and you can afford it, look into some private therapy for him. He needs some space to explore his grief and anger, and his feelings around women and girls.

That being said, don't be afraid to discipline him. He sounds like he needs Internet access completely removed to detox from all the incel crap he's being exposed to. Will he talk to you about why he thinks that way about women? Or do you have anyone else, like a brother, who can speak with him.

You can empathise and get him help whilst still taking a 0 tolerance stance on his abuse of you.

Would anyone outlet like a martial art help as well?

ArabellaScott · 13/10/2026 22:38

OP, I really feel for you. What a horrible, difficult time you're having.

The first thing you need is to know that your feelings are completely understandable, normal, and okay to have. You're doing your best in a very hard situation. I think the saying is it's fine to want to throw your child out the window, so long as you don't actually do it.

You need and deserve the help you keep asking for, it's shit that it's not forthcoming. I know things are bad in mental health and social work etc. There are organisations out there that may be able to help, though.

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/children-and-young-adults/advice-for-parents/children-and-bereavement/

https://www.cruse.org.uk/

https://childhoodbereavementnetwork.org.uk/

What your son wants and needs is firm boundaries, someone to say no, someone he can rage against and test and see that they stand firm. But as noted above and by you, this may not be straightforward/safe now, as he's 13 he will be capable of doing harm. It's hard. He wants a parent who is strong and unbreakable, and of course you are human so aren't.

And of course underneath all that anger is fear, and sadness, and grief.

Could you afford a few sessions with a counsellor? Many will give discounted rates, if you ask about.

Sending you all my very best.

nhs.uk

Children and bereavement

Find out what to do and where to find bereavement support if your child has lost a loved one or has a loved one who's dying.

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/children-and-young-adults/advice-for-parents/children-and-bereavement

TygerBread · 13/10/2026 22:39

One thing about the issues with devices, if you struggle to take them off him, turn off the wifi etc, you can in the longer term do a ‘quiet quitting’ approach.

what I mean by that is change your broadband provider, get the lowest speed you need…one that won’t be good enough for consistent online gaming. When his phone is getting old, don’t buy him another one, don’t give him money to spend on new Xbox games etc. If he can’t treat you decently, you have no reason to be buying him gadgets or treats, your responsibility is to provide the basics only. Aside from using the home broadband, his phone must be using data or a phone connection, how is that paid for? Don’t fall into the trap of believing he ‘needs’ to have a phone connection at all times, go back a generation, and we survived without phones. He’ll be with adults at school, he’ll be with friends when he’s out, if he walks off after dark to upset you he’s unlikely to answer his phone anyway. Also remember that despite the news scaremongering, that most people in society are decent and if a 13 year old is in any trouble they can always go to a shop or knock on someone’s door and ask for a phone call to be made etc.

i know it will feel difficult to do, but i would also recommend trying to avoid the confrontations. If he is shouting and swearing etc, lock yourself in your bedroom and relax and watch tv, go to a neighbour for a cup of tea…basically anything you can do to ignore him. What you need to do is teach him that he will get your attention when he speaks to you nicely, so when that happens, you need to engage with him and give him your full attention.

One mistake many parents make is to be giving a lot of attention during bad behaviour, then when kids are behaving not engage much due to enjoying the peace and quiet…but what that teaches the child is that if they want your attention…the way to get it is to argue.

He’s also been through a bereavement and may have confused feelings…his arguing with you could actually be his way of trying to test you to see how far he can push you before you leave him (illogical as it sounds, psychologically when there is an ‘attachment’ issue, bad behaviour can sometimes be due to wanting to prove their expectation that you want to leave or don’t love them etc).

What about the other child? You say they are close in age? Setting very clear rewards for behaviour could help. So for example if the other child doesn’t shout at you or does chores, give them pocket money and make clear to the problem child what they need to do in order to get the same…seeing it demonstrated in that way could help.

Also, what is happening at school? You need a shared strategy with his school, as you need to find out if they are disciplining enough, or whether he disrespects his teachers. As he has lost his father, it could be that there is a male member of teaching/support staff that he respects, or a grandfather or uncle…someone who can speak to him about his behaviour specifically towards you. It may be old fashioned, but having a man he respects telling him it’s not right to make a woman feel afraid could be the talking to he needs.

If you can get him into any activities, something like Karate with a male sen-sai (instructor) could be a good move, because respect is very much built into that activity and he will have a male role model he doesn’t want to disappoint.

Unfortunately, I think you have gone wrong somewhere and it’s difficult to put it right, so I do think you need outside help of some kind, start with speaking to the school. You should have had some firm basic ground rules in place such as parental controls on the internet and games controllers confiscated overnight, consequences for swearing etc…because those basics aren’t in place, it makes it hard to push back on it,

As well with punishments, I’d recommend a tiered approach. Don’t think on the fly about consequences, have a behaviour policy, just like a school does. So for example a tier one behaviour is a week without Xbox, a tier 2 behaviour is tier 1 plus phone removed for a week etc…that way even before he does certain things, he will know the consequences and it (to an extent) removes that after-argument effect of why he’s receiving a particular punishment and questioning your decisions. You need to lay down the ground rules and lay down the consequences clearly with him as a standard thing, so you aren’t dealing with doing that when he’s already misbehaving. Print it out and put it on the walls if need be, to get it clearly into his head.

The really big thing is to avoid debate over consequences, say it once and then done. If he follows you and is abusive, tell him the abuse is unacceptable and walk away, lock yourself in your bedroom if you have to. The worst thing you can do is keep the combative conversation going, as that’s what he wants and that’s how he wins.

I’m not sure if social services would help at all, if you really are at your end with this, you have nothing to lose by contacting them if you want him taken into care. But be warned that they may be very reluctant to help because unless the child is in danger from you, they have no reason to spend money on a placement…and will do everything possible to keep him with you. However, if his issues stem from attachment fears, then you taking this action could actually make his behaviour worse.

If he does get physically abusive, do call the police. Unless there is serious physical harm they likely won’t do much, but could assist you by giving him a fright/warning, and knowing that you are willing to call them and it’s not an idle threat could make him rethink his behaviour. Having someone outside the household tell him how wrong it is could help, as often teenagers can’t see it. Putting a camera in the room and playing back his behaviour to him could also shock him as well, he may not realise how scary he is.

CrazyMidget · 13/10/2026 22:40

HesterLeggatt · 13/10/2026 22:35

WiFi password changes every day. Next day’s password has to be earned by positive behaviour. Get yourself some good noise cancelling headphones and the minute he starts yelling just put them on and completely ignore it.

I love this!

uglyfive · 13/10/2026 22:40

CrazyMidget · 13/10/2026 22:31

OP, I know it's hard when you feel so worn down, but can you ground him for a week each time he shouts at you? I feel there should be consequences for treating his mother so horribly.

Or....devilish idea incoming: Sit him down and talk to him lovingly and calmly with deep concern in your voice. Tell him that the two of you living together isn't working out. That he seems to really hate you, and you love him so much that all you want is for him to be happy. Then ask how he would like to go and live with another family. Say that Social Services can arrange for him to be taken away if he finds that his home and his mother are bad for his wellbeing. 😂 Of course, you won't mean a sodding word of it. But it will give him a shock and make him realise that actions have consequences. Not consequences as in punishment, but natural consequences, as they will appear to him. The consequence being that he's been so horrible to his mother that she really thinks he might be happier going to live with strangers. 🤣 Say "Just think about it" and end the conversation. I bet you he'll calm right down and be like "Nooooo, I don't want to live with another family! I'm sorry, Mum!"

Then you can float the idea of therapy.

Force clearly isn't working - sounds like you're not a soft touch - so a bit of craftiness is in order, I feel. He's only 13. You can outwit him.

Oh god please don’t listen to this awful advice - he’s already lost one parent, I don’t think threatening to abandon him would help the situation one bit! Secondly, hes 13, not a toddler, even if he’s being a little shit he deserves a bit more respect than to be ‘tricked’ into thinking you might kick him out of the family home.

ArabellaScott · 13/10/2026 22:40

He can be very dramatic but his behaviour now is just awful. I do miss being able to have a normal conversation with him or do something together without it turning into a disaster.

I wonder if being very honest with him and telling him this might help? When they're very young, they get 'special time'. At this age, it needs to be more of a kind of car trip or something, but they still want and need this.

EdithBond · 13/10/2026 22:41

5128gap · 13/10/2026 22:02

Is he completely lost and unreachable OP? Or are there times when you recognise your boy, and can relate to each other positively, chat, have a laugh, do something together? When he is happy and not angry?
Because if so, these are a chink you can work with, by trying to create as many opportunities for these positive interactions as you can to rebuild some relationship.
This won't address his bad behaviour but layering some good experiences over the bad ones should help you feel more positive about each other, which is a start.

Hang on in there 💐

My mate thought his son was a nightmare at that age because his mum died when he was young and it was just the two of them. I had to let him know mine (who was the same age) was just as bad. They tend to grow out of it within a couple of years. They were both mature and lovely by 16-17.

Use humour but be firm. Remember you’re an adult. Stay very calm. Never shout. Don’t have too many battles. Get support from the school.

They respond well to you saying they’re a young adult now and have to take responsibility for themselves. Questions can help so you change the framing to responsibility. Small nuances but really worked with mine, e.g. “Why are you shouting?” rather than “Don’t shout at me”. “Do you think it’s wise going out when you’re ill?” rather than “I don’t want you going out when you’ve been ill”. Or “What time are you heading home?” rather than “You must come home now” Or “What time are you going to come off your X-Box?” rather than “The X-Box is going off now”.

As for attitudes to women etc, have lots of conversations at calm moments (e.g. while having your dinner) where you give your view, e.g. men who think like that are insecure, immature etc and cool, confident men don’t criticise or mock women. Debate it with him. Listen to what he says and ask questions, e.g. why does he think that? He won’t let you know, but it’ll sink it. Most young men quickly view those types are a joke.

EdithBond · 13/10/2026 22:42

Oops, didn’t mean to quote you @5128gap.

CrimbleCrumblee · 13/10/2026 22:42

Ok, here’s what I’d do- I’m also a mum of 2 boys.

  1. Replace phone with a brick phone. No access to social media.
  2. Arrange a meeting with school pastoral team to discuss concerns and access support.
  3. Arrange fortnightly private therapy. Expensive I know, but in the long run so worth it.
  4. Make him sign up for a hobby- football, rugby, karate, arts, scouts, whatever he’s interested in but he HAS to do something.
  5. Stop him going “out”. Do you know where he’s going? Who he is hanging out with?
  6. Eat together as a family. Non negotiable. Slowly, you’ll start to talk. Do you have family nearby? Invite people over for Sunday dinner- eat together, bring positive people into your house.

He has to follow your rules above and when he does, he’ll get x box time again.
Family needs to be more prominent in his life as at the moment, friends and and other influencers are currently dominating. 13 is such a big time or change and such a confusing time for him- he’s working out who he is and who he wants to be- family MUST be his key guides.

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