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To think this person was trying to hint at something

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gogogwen · Yesterday 20:18

I've name changed because if I am being paranoid I don't want abuse.

I recently bought an advent calendar for my child that wasn't obviously Christmas themed. I see lots of people using it to countdown Chanukah and I wanted to do the same. I thought the entire calendar was so cool that I reached out to thank the creators for such a wonderful product. Their email reply back was quite nice but then in their last paragraph they wrote:
Last week a Muslim mother wrote to tell me that her family would be using our calendar as a countdown for Ramadan :) and to me that confirms a really nice thing - that it can be used to count down to any celebration!

The company is Spanish and so I assume the owner is too. It's the smiley face. I have nothing against Muslims, but I wonder if the person wrote it to hint - see, they're just like you, don't harbour any bad feelings. Or even, trying to put me off their company?

Is it me, or just why would they even write that?

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Error404FucksNotFound · Yesterday 20:40

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You think that either an international terrorist organisation or a middle Eastern country has made contact with a calendar company to bribe them to reply to emails with a mention of Muslims using their products?

BriarTime · Yesterday 20:40

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I assumed LanaDelBoi was having a chuckle, to be honest.

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 20:40

OP - off topic but does your Spanish advent calendar have 23 or 24 days?

SleeplessRoads · Yesterday 20:40

gogogwen · Yesterday 20:25

Just why would they mention Muslim out of all the faiths. I was just wondering if they're trying to be antagonising or that they might not like Jewish people (because of Spain's stance) and discourage me from using their brand.

What?! What other faith would they use? There’s no comment to make if it’s a Christian countdown to Christmas (or whichever day Spain traditionally celebrate). You had made the Jewish comment. I suppose they could have used Buddhist or Hindu, but they’re less mainstream in the West than Islam/Judaism/Christianity.

Why did YOU email them? To bait them into antisemitism? To remind the Spanish that Jewish people are people too who use their products just like they do?

Flutterbees · Yesterday 20:40

They agreed with you that it’s a product that can be used by many faiths and noted that a Muslim mother very recently told them that she was also using the calendar for a religious countdown (religion only important in this context because the product is faith related). Then they ‘smiled’ at you, because we smile during positive human interactions. You’re massively over thinking here.

You seem good at making assumptions…you’re assuming ill intent coming from the manufacturer, and you’ve assumed that one poster agrees with you because they must come from the same background. I think you need to stop assuming.

DesperateforSunshine · Yesterday 20:41

Just when you think you have read it all….. sigh

gogogwen · Yesterday 20:41

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 20:40

OP - off topic but does your Spanish advent calendar have 23 or 24 days?

24

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Babayagahaha · Yesterday 20:43

What the F?

Step away from the Internet.

Dragononawagon · Yesterday 20:43

Bloody hell, you must be brilliant at yoga.

seriouslygardening · Yesterday 20:43

I clicked wrong button. You are being unreasonable and massively over thinking this.

gogogwen · Yesterday 20:44

Evolutionarygoals · Yesterday 20:38

I think it's completely understandable that, given the current climate, Jewish people are feeling generally on edge. I'm so sorry you're feeling that way OP, it must be really stressful.
My reading of the message is that the suppliers are genuinely pleased that, in a fractured world, they've managed to create something that can play a part in important celebrations, no matter the faith.
I hope you and your children have a lovely Chanukah OP xx

Thank you, I really appreciate this x

I know that not enough posters here either know people from a similar background or are from a similar background. And ultimately we just don't shout loud enough so you can see how the poll has gone how it has

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Honeyandwine · Yesterday 20:44

This is why I love mumsnet! The poor company. They were celebrating a success not making a dig at your faith. It is actually really sad to think people cannot send a warm and friendly email without it being overanalysed.

EmptyCan · Yesterday 20:46

gogogwen · Yesterday 20:44

Thank you, I really appreciate this x

I know that not enough posters here either know people from a similar background or are from a similar background. And ultimately we just don't shout loud enough so you can see how the poll has gone how it has

Based on what evidence, for heaven’s sake? I was at a Shabbat last Friday!

LivingForTheWinter · Yesterday 20:46

Evolutionarygoals · Yesterday 20:38

I think it's completely understandable that, given the current climate, Jewish people are feeling generally on edge. I'm so sorry you're feeling that way OP, it must be really stressful.
My reading of the message is that the suppliers are genuinely pleased that, in a fractured world, they've managed to create something that can play a part in important celebrations, no matter the faith.
I hope you and your children have a lovely Chanukah OP xx

Oh have a day off. So now making a smiley face after mentioning another religion is anti Semitic?

montysmaw · Yesterday 20:46

Ffs

crazeekat · Yesterday 20:47

U have way too much free time on ur hands. Get a hobby.

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 20:47

gogogwen · Yesterday 20:44

Thank you, I really appreciate this x

I know that not enough posters here either know people from a similar background or are from a similar background. And ultimately we just don't shout loud enough so you can see how the poll has gone how it has

Yes but maybe the people responding are from a closer background to the Spanish lady?

I understand you feel vulnerable at the moment but being this paranoid won’t help

Springsummertime · Yesterday 20:47

You seem very paranoid and could possibly benefit from some medical intervention if you are genuinely being serious

FountainCourted · Yesterday 20:47

gogogwen · Yesterday 20:44

Thank you, I really appreciate this x

I know that not enough posters here either know people from a similar background or are from a similar background. And ultimately we just don't shout loud enough so you can see how the poll has gone how it has

Then why post here if you think people need to be of a similar background to you to understand your reasons for looking for offence?

saveforthat · Yesterday 20:47

gogogwen · Yesterday 20:41

24

And does it have chocolates?

Babayagahaha · Yesterday 20:48

They were probably just sharing a nice story.

I wasn't really aware all Muslims and all Jews hated each other but you learn something new every day.

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 20:49

Also just because you have taken offence does not mean offence was meant and it’s pretty unkind to assume she is a bad actor just because she’s Spanish

hobbledyhoy · Yesterday 20:49

Fucking hell. I really am done with humankind.

PeasOff · Yesterday 20:49

Is this actually serious?

I've read it about 5 times and can only see someone who was happy you and someone else of another faith enjoyed their product.

Evolutionarygoals · Yesterday 20:50

LivingForTheWinter · Yesterday 20:46

Oh have a day off. So now making a smiley face after mentioning another religion is anti Semitic?

Please do try to read my post properly. I don't think the email was in any way anti-Semitic. I do, however, understand that the OP is very probably feeling very much under pressure at the moment (as many many Jewish people are) and due to this has read more into the email than the suppliers really meant.

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