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Friendship situation

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Tootsurly · Today 16:33

I'll try to keep this brief.

Good friend, formerly very close - i.e. would spend every weekend together and go on holiday together, each other's go-to person in case of crisis - until he met his partner and moved abroad about 20 years ago. Have known him all my life.

Four times this year he ignored my messages. This has been been interspersed with periods of perfectly normal chatty contact, so I didn't bring it up. There hasn't been any falling out. He was late wishing me a happy birthday (first time ever) a few months ago and since then back to being quiet.

A couple of weeks ago I wrote asking if he was ok, and was ignored again, so this time, after ten days or so (including two weekends in case he was too busy to respond during the week) I did bring it up and said I felt like I was flogging a dead horse, although I really didn't know why.

All of a sudden he's really pissed off, accusing me of being paranoid to automatically think his silence it's to do with me, that he's seriously ill and this is drama he can do without.

AIBU to feel a bit cheesed off, or have I committed some obvious faux pas I'm not aware of? Five times now he's ignored me since January, so I'm hardly being "paranoid". Plus I wrote specifically to find out if all was well, but I'm the arsehole for "creating drama" when he's seriously ill - which I didn't know because he didn't tell me.

I wrote back in very conciliatory tones, sorry to jump to the wrong conclusion, hope he's getting help, is there anything at all I can do.

Just to reiterate, we are (were?) very good friends and the last time I saw him (summer 2025) we met for brunch and were still chatting at about 5pm so yes, we like(d) each other.

Also he's gay, so there are no romantic complications.

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Tootsurly · Today 20:05

thesandwich · Today 19:34

As someone who was blindsided to hear about the death from cancer of an ex close colleague and good friend I didn’t know was ill….. his wife told me that he was almost ashamed and in denial about his illness and didn’t want many people to know. Wonder if that could be true here? He’s still having his own major struggles?

Yes, that's possible.

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Tootsurly · Today 20:09

blackhorsesxx · Today 19:42

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You've already been told on another thread the other day that it's quite rude to spam all over the place by just posting "F". If you want to follow a thread either make a contribution or use one of the other ways of watching it.

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Tootsurly · Today 20:13

Janecat23 · Today 19:49

his Heads mashed and I might be complicated by his relationship as his partner might not like to share his attentions. Can you give him a bit of space and then have a phone call? Texting is always ambiguous

We used to speak on the phone all the time, but that doesn't seem to happen any more and I haven't pushed it.

He's very bad with stress - always has been. He's lived abroad for 20 years, but hasn't managed to learn the language as he's always been too stressed/busy with work. For two decades. He's also been intending to diet for most of that time, and I suspect his illness is connected with his weight.

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Devilla · Today 20:17

Have you ever visited him?

Janecat23 · Today 20:22

Op sounds like you know him well if you know he doesn’t do stress v well. How has he been with you before when stressed out?

Tootsurly · Today 20:25

Devilla · Today 20:17

Have you ever visited him?

Of course I've visited him.

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Devilla · Today 20:26

Tootsurly · Today 20:25

Of course I've visited him.

There really is no of course about it

you last saw him over a year ago for brunch

and now he’s ignoring you

do you know his partner well? Does he have children?

Tootsurly · Today 20:26

Janecat23 · Today 20:22

Op sounds like you know him well if you know he doesn’t do stress v well. How has he been with you before when stressed out?

He gets very panicky. As I said, he doesn't handle it well. That's not a criticism of him - I don't handle it well either - but I know what he will be like.

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Tootsurly · Today 20:31

Devilla · Today 20:26

There really is no of course about it

you last saw him over a year ago for brunch

and now he’s ignoring you

do you know his partner well? Does he have children?

I haven't started a thread about someone whose friendship I'm sad to be losing but who I haven't bothered to visit for two decades. That would be ridiculous. I've visited him multiple times and have met up with him multiple times when he's been back in the UK, both where I live now and where we grew up.

No, I don't know his partner well. No, he doesn't have children.

Not quite sure what you're trying to prove with the endless questions under various usernames.

Clearly he never liked me and was glad to get shot of me when he moved abroad. Is that what you're implying?

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Devilla · Today 20:36

you don’t know his partner well? He’s been with her over twenty years and you have visited him multiple times!! Do you not stay with them?

you don’t have a partner so pin a lot on him I guess and he’s over it

AbsintheMakesTheHeartGrowFonder · Today 21:24

Tootsurly · Today 17:25

I'm not expecting him to be at my beck and call, but before he moved away it was me who would visit him in hospital, or leave work early to take chicken soup and Paracetamol round when he was ill, or talk him down when he thought he might have contracted HIV, or listen to him talk about his first sexual relationship, or phone his mum to lie about where he was when she couldn't get hold of him. Obviously this has all changed, but I say this simply to illustrate that this wasn't some one-sided friendship where I was always demanding things of him and didn't reciprocate.

I’m not saying it was a one-sided friendship, but that was TWENTY YEARS AGO when you lived in each other’s orbits and he was single.

He hasn’t even lived in the same country as you for two decades. Just because you were close 20 years ago, you can’t expect that to continue forever. Things change and people’s lives move on. Just because you two were each other’s go-to support people when you were younger, that doesn’t mean he’s obliged to be constantly responsive to you for the rest of his life.

You really need to accept that life moves on and people mature and that friendships really don’t have to stay as intense as that forever. You sound like you’re clinging on to the intensity and closeness, while he’s just trying to get on with his life in a different country and might not have as much in common with you now as you think. Nobody is obliged to respond to every message you send them and you’re not entitled to an emotional inquest over it.

AbsintheMakesTheHeartGrowFonder · Today 21:27

Tootsurly · Today 18:34

Yes, your experience sounds very similar.

I don't think the illness is fabricated, but it could be a excuse. He's clearly able to text!

So what if he can text? Just because he’s got functional thumbs that doesn’t mean he feels like chatting.

You’re being really entitled about this friendship.

Attenboroughsmistress · Today 21:36

HappyViewer · Today 17:09

Sorry OP all this sounds a bit weird, you can still get on really well but it’s important to realise how you fit in with his life now. I have a school friend I see once a year, we love each other but neither of us want to do more than about for bouts of messaging a year.
I have another primary schoolfriend who when I see her we talk for hours and have a good laugh but we literally just see each other on our big zero birthdays. I wouldn’t have time if they both started messaging me a lot more.
I am sure he does read like you but you need to match his energy with messaging until you find a comfortable routine.

Edited

All this is totally true…however, a nice friend in that case would just reassure a friend that all was well, they still treasure their friendship and they are just busy/distracted?

But I guess tone over text is very easy to misinterpret (both ways) and probably lesson learnt is to just give someone a call if you’re worried about them not liking you anymore.

SilverSwiftie · Today 21:45

I can be a bit like this with texts and WhatsApp messages, especially with my best friend or siblings. I want to send longer, more meaningful messages, so I put them to one side and often forget or leave it for an awkwardly long amount of time. Meanwhile I'm on my phone constantly sending quick messages about immediate, trivial or logistical issues. I am a bit hopeless at regular communication but if ny best friend needed me I would drop everything. Depending on what you were messaging him about this year, maybe your friend takes a similar approach now that you see each other in person less frequently?

Tootsurly · Today 22:07

AbsintheMakesTheHeartGrowFonder · Today 21:24

I’m not saying it was a one-sided friendship, but that was TWENTY YEARS AGO when you lived in each other’s orbits and he was single.

He hasn’t even lived in the same country as you for two decades. Just because you were close 20 years ago, you can’t expect that to continue forever. Things change and people’s lives move on. Just because you two were each other’s go-to support people when you were younger, that doesn’t mean he’s obliged to be constantly responsive to you for the rest of his life.

You really need to accept that life moves on and people mature and that friendships really don’t have to stay as intense as that forever. You sound like you’re clinging on to the intensity and closeness, while he’s just trying to get on with his life in a different country and might not have as much in common with you now as you think. Nobody is obliged to respond to every message you send them and you’re not entitled to an emotional inquest over it.

I didn't say I was entitled or that he's obliged. I had hoped he would want to be in touch.

I'm not going to harangue him, but I can be sad about the situation.

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