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am I being unreasonable to offer to be a surrogate after failed IVF

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MiniMischiefMakers · Yesterday 17:54

My bother and SIL have struggled with infertility for almost ten years and has come to the end of the road with IVF. After many failed transfers, they don't want to try again. They still have some high quality frozen embryos, and they've ruled out adoption. I'm in my mid thirties with a four year old and a seven month old, and I feel our family is complete. I conceived quickly both times and had healthy, uneventful pregnancies and births.

I'm seriously considering offering to be their surrogate. I understand pregnancy and birth always carry risks, but given my history I'm comfortable with them. My brother and SIL are a wonderful aunt and uncle and would make incredible parents. It would be purely altruistic, and I wouldn't want or expect any compensation. I’m a SAHM so it wouldn't affect my work. I just love them so much, I can see how much they’re hurting and want to do whatever I can to take it away. I also can’t help but feel that I’m effortlessly living their dream life and I feel some guilt over that (all on my end, they have never said or implied that at all, even when we announced our second pregnancy). It just feels so much joy could come from nine months of my life, they’d have their long awaited baby, I’d gain a niece or nephew, my children would have a cousin. It just feels right to me to offer.

I know they may well decline, having already been through so much. If I do offer, I want to be completely certain first so I'd love to hear from anyone who has been an altruistic surrogate, been born or had a baby through altruistic surrogacy, or has experience of it with family or friends.

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OhHolyJesus · Today 10:58

mybiggreenfrog · Today 10:39

I think it's a fabulously generous gift you are thinking of giving.

Children aren’t gifts to be given to anyone who wants one.

FableAndFern · Today 11:10

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Yesterday 19:09

Why would her husband be on the birth certificate?

Because legally a child born to a married woman is assumed to be the child of her husband.

Edenmum2 · Today 11:16

Good luck OP, you sound lovely.

sittingonabeach · Today 11:45

mybiggreenfrog · Today 10:39

I think it's a fabulously generous gift you are thinking of giving.

How to treat a baby as a commodity

Allendeavour26 · Today 11:46

Just another person adding in that the newborn baby will not care that you are genetically it's aunt, it will know you as it's mother. Your voice & heartbeat would have been comforting and soothing it since the moment it could hear.
I am sure it was similar with your own children, but both my children visibly reacted when they first heard my voice after being born. Your brother and SIL will be strangers to that little baby as far as it is concerned, so for some commenters to act that there won't be trauma for the child to be removed from what it believes to be the mother is ridiculous.

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Today 12:11

mybiggreenfrog · Today 10:39

I think it's a fabulously generous gift you are thinking of giving.

You know you're talking about an actual human being?

Shall I just give someone away as a gift?

SiberFox · Today 12:12

Allendeavour26 · Today 11:46

Just another person adding in that the newborn baby will not care that you are genetically it's aunt, it will know you as it's mother. Your voice & heartbeat would have been comforting and soothing it since the moment it could hear.
I am sure it was similar with your own children, but both my children visibly reacted when they first heard my voice after being born. Your brother and SIL will be strangers to that little baby as far as it is concerned, so for some commenters to act that there won't be trauma for the child to be removed from what it believes to be the mother is ridiculous.

For many it is apparently a really small price to pay.

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Today 12:14

Whatafustercluck · Today 10:51

I have no personal experience but just wanted to say what an incredibly selfless act, and that whatever happens, your brother and sil are very lucky to have you in their corner.

My view is that I don't see surrogacy as inherently wrong. If the embryo is theirs, this limits the chance of you becoming attached - it's their baby. If you haven't already, thoroughly research it to enable you to get your head around the risks - there are some as I'm sure you're aware so you need to be comfortable with the level of risk you're taking, and the impact it may have on your own family. It's a lovely altruistic act, but it absolutely should not come at the expense for of your own relationship and family. Your dh may be supportive - but has he had the risks explained to him independently?

And definitely be cautious in how you offer, be ready for a reaction you may not expect or understand.

Good luck op, whatever you decide and however the offer is received.

Edited

If you don't see it as inherently wrong, then presumably you don't see any issue with a company starting a 'baby farm' and recruiting women to grow babies for others.

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Today 12:19

MiniMischiefMakers · Yesterday 22:01

Equally, my children didn’t have any choice to exist. They’re here because their dad and I chose to have them and now they’re here we prioritise them and try to give them the best life possible life we can. If I do end up being a surrogate, we’ll do it in a way that respects the child the best we can. We’ll be honest about where they came from and hide no secrets. I’d still be a close part of their life as their aunt. But as with my children there is an element of having to hope that they are happy to be here in our family.

😂

You'll be honest with them?
This isn't your child, you don't get to make that decision to tell them. That's entirely up to your brother and SIL what they tell their child, also how they raise the child, what they feed the child, how they educate them etc.... you'll have zero say in anything.

bababamama · Today 12:25

It’s a huge decision for you but in the same circumstances yes I would offer too. In fact I did offer to my brother and his then dp plus to be my biological child. Purely altruistic surrogacy is quite different to the paid kind

Beccahm · Today 12:27

bababamama · Today 12:25

It’s a huge decision for you but in the same circumstances yes I would offer too. In fact I did offer to my brother and his then dp plus to be my biological child. Purely altruistic surrogacy is quite different to the paid kind

Not necessarily for the child, though

Whatafustercluck · Today 12:52

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Today 12:14

If you don't see it as inherently wrong, then presumably you don't see any issue with a company starting a 'baby farm' and recruiting women to grow babies for others.

A bit of a leap you're making there.

Allswellthatendswelll · Today 13:12

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Yesterday 20:18

How many surrogacies have you been involved in, and those doing it for their brother?

I know someone who was an altruistic surrogate for close friends and I have friends who've used an altruistic surrogate. They whole process was really positive and open, with the surrogate remaining in the child's life. I imagine with a sibling it would be very similar as you are family anyway. I've also read really disturbing stories of commercial surrogacy so I have big issues with that.

Allswellthatendswelll · Today 13:16

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Today 12:19

😂

You'll be honest with them?
This isn't your child, you don't get to make that decision to tell them. That's entirely up to your brother and SIL what they tell their child, also how they raise the child, what they feed the child, how they educate them etc.... you'll have zero say in anything.

I'm pretty sure under British law the biological parents have to go through a legal process to be recognised and there are certain steps. With friends of mine they were required to make a story book for their baby explaining how they had been born.

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Today 13:24

Allswellthatendswelll · Today 13:16

I'm pretty sure under British law the biological parents have to go through a legal process to be recognised and there are certain steps. With friends of mine they were required to make a story book for their baby explaining how they had been born.

They were not compelled to do that legally.

Children have a right to know who their biological parents are at 18. However in OPs case there's no question who is bio parents.

OP and DH would be named as mother and father in BC, then the essentially relinquish the parenthood and pass it to Brother and SIL.

I was a little wrong earlier about the decisions TBF, Until the transfer of parents is done, t OP and DH would have to be the ones making any medical decisions, signing any documents etc , the brother would not be asked by medical teams to decide.

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Today 13:25

Allswellthatendswelll · Today 13:12

I know someone who was an altruistic surrogate for close friends and I have friends who've used an altruistic surrogate. They whole process was really positive and open, with the surrogate remaining in the child's life. I imagine with a sibling it would be very similar as you are family anyway. I've also read really disturbing stories of commercial surrogacy so I have big issues with that.

So none doing it for a sibling?

Betterversionofme · Today 13:25

Whatafustercluck · Today 12:52

A bit of a leap you're making there.

No, not a leap at all.
There already are reported cases of forced surrogacy.

Thisusernameisalwaysavailable · Today 13:28

Whatafustercluck · Today 12:52

A bit of a leap you're making there.

Not really....

You said it is ok. So at what point isn't it okay on your view?
And what's the difference between a poor woman from Asia being paid £150 and a middle class white Mumsnetter doing it for their sibling?

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