Would you vote for Labour/Getting rid of Triple Lock at the next general election?

[mybiggreenfrog]

Yes (YABU)
No (YANBU)

I don't think it is a big enough issue to make it a one issue vote. I think if they throw rejoining the EU it would really stir up the outcome. There is a risk that so many big issues are thrown in that the outcome is pretty randomised. But fundamentally I would only vote for them if they can evidence in the next two years some level of economic improve and reduction in welfare. If they can't do that in four years it is time for someone else to have a go.

It varies wildly though, which is why it’s not very fair. One half of my family are immigrants, and entitled to NHS and any benefits. One has really been supported all of his adult life by benefits.

My partner is an immigrant and also would be entitled to any benefits and he uses the NHS. He, and the majority of my family on the immigrant side, are higher rate tax payers.

But refugees, asylum seekers, those on certain visas, whose with indefinite leave to remain or settled status are allowed access to public funds

Labour - no

Ending triple lock - yes

If they bring back the two child benefit cap that might swing a few voters.

There isn’t one. You can claim child benefit for an infinite number of children.

Yes. I’m fed up with pensioners being prioritised all the time. And I say that as someone not a kick in the arse off retirement myself.

Actually I just had a quick look as I was curious, and 17% of UC claims is from foreign nationals. Which is much higher than I thought it would be

You have no idea if or what I might have in any private pension. Unless public sector or big pension pot, the amount of private pensions can be tiny.

Asylum seekers have no access to public funds except their minimal welfare payment. It is under £50 per week if they are responsible for feeding themselves and under £10 per week (that is not a typo) if they are in an asylum hotel providing food, or ‘food’.

Public funding will cover accommodation, food and healthcare though.

£4.9 bn a year is spent on asylum accommodation, support and resettlement - it’s not a small amount

I wouldn’t vote for them
they are complete liars

it’s only for personal care - not care home costs
I think a lot of people heard that wrong

he’s a smary two face wanker
who said less than a few months ago he would stick to the ref lines and now he is considering trying to rejoin the EU

i would rather vote for reform restore or the conservative to keep labour out

Oh please
it still has to come from somewhere some budge is smashed to pay for

so while labour can pay for this
they won’t get my vote

Burnham told Times Radio this morning that it might not be until nearer 2040 that this can all start so it won't just be this election there will be another election after....

Yes and I am a pensioner.
The proposal doesn't mean pensions won't increase they will still increase by at least 2.5% and they will be tracked against wages long term. It's a good proposal. I think people should actually look at it before dismissing it . It's actually a double lock, pensions will keep up with inflatiion and long term if it looks as though they are falling short against wages they will increase again .
It won't mean pensions will get smaller. It's fair to pensioners and to the rest of the country.

This is true, mainly because of poorly negotiated contracts with the private sector. Slum landlords writ large.

I doubt anything will happen then!
I do feel that many politicians and economists do want something done about the triple lock on state pensions and it’ll become a political point scoring issue at the next general election as to how it can be kept on or taken away.

I would never vote Labour in a million years.

What benefits?

Bingo. Legal immigrants don't get benefits.

Perhaps you are talking about illegal immigrants/illegal refugees?

This. Labour have really lost the plot. Apparently 'drinking warm ale and owning a black labrador is a far right fantasy'. Laughable really but I have a horrible feeling they actually believe the nonsense they come out with.

Soon there won't be anything left of our green and pleasant land.

The country wasn't ruined by Labour! It was ruined by the previous government which was in power for 14 years and took us out of the EU.
Labour have been trying to pick up the pieces for the last two years.
I think you need to look into things a little deeper than relying on social care stories

I will not vote for Labour. Not now, not ever.

But it’s wrong to say that there is no cost of this. With c. 100k arriving each year, of course it’s going to be expensive to find places at short notice to house this number. That figure doesn’t include healthcare and any other expenses. It is a direct cost. It’s one third of projected pension savings if the triple lock is axed

No he didn’t. He said it might be that date before the full savings achieved by stopping the triple lock are achieved.

I think because they made a right mess of things when they were elected. Freebies, the WFP, Starmer unable to communicate properly, Reeves the same robotic style. They had so long in opposition when they got into power they wanted to consult everyone about what to do ! Didn’t they know ?
That is why.
They have paid vast sums to organisations like the NHS and train drivers but with no strings attached. No negotiation on performance or changes as a result.
That is why. This sort of thing.