Would you vote for Labour/Getting rid of Triple Lock at the next general election?

[mybiggreenfrog]

Yes (YABU)
No (YANBU)

Yes. And your point is? You’ve got to have the money to pay tax on it.

Get a job and earn it then!

Do keep up. I did for over 20 years.

Yep. People who don’t demand more from the state are derided, but it’s a dwindling pool. If Labour keep it up they can just stamp that out and hardly anyone contributes more, but then we’ll see how it goes.

Tbf Russia and AI are significant threats. AI is changing the way of living much faster than most people are prepared to see.

But this is exactly the reason why we must become much fitter as society and why we can't afford slobs anymore. And why we need to prioritise the most productive part of society, let them thrive, attract high flyers, and use some share of their success to lift the rest.
It's not about trickle down effect at all. It's about growing economy, attracting cutting edge technologies and monetising them here, having our own Silicon Valley in UK.

Don't see this happening though

Sorry, I didn't mean worry about AI changing life. I meant more the absurd threads about some kind of nuclear apocalypse or whatever being triggered by AI. I agree that AI has to be considered, but more in the way that it affects day to day life than preparing for some dramatic event.

Great! We need more people to have a work ethic and be productive rather than live off benefits.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

Over 20 years?

You said somewhere that you're in your 70th? and you only worked for over 20 years or so?

Not over 30, 40, but only 20, so assume less than 30? in mid range job?
Means significant net recipient who consistently advocates for tax rises on high earners and redistribution of wealth?

How typical

20 years as a TOP RATE taxpayer. Not as a worker.

read some posting history on other threads. I won't go further

I very much respect consistency of this poster, but strongly disagree with communists views

I worked out that if the new provisions were in for the next year DH and I would have £140 less between us as a result. I can't see this being anything more than a tiny contribution to the proposed care service overall.
We are supposed to have NHS Dentistry in this country, and access to GPs and timely treatment in hospitals. That system is in total failure. Are we really stupid enough to believe that a state health care service will deliver?
In any event we will still have to pay, it will only be personal care that is covered and the "hotel" element of the care homes will need to be financed and the domestic element of homecare packages.
There is bound to be an extra element to paying for this, I'm expecting some sort of death tax or other tax increase to be on the way very shortly.
I'm a Labour voter but I don't feel they are being very straight with us about this issue.

She's not a communist!

She, as far as I can see, is a socialist. I'm probably worse. If I was in England I wouldn't have voted Labour after we got Tony Blair instead of John Smith.

Think I'd vote Green.

Sad but true. Politicians over the past few decades have really screwed us.

Or sell assets/downsize.

Yes the people who have left have at least one six figure earner per couple, often two higher salaries. I do understand it, albeit it’s a shame

No, I won’t be voting Labour. But not because of the triple lock. The double lock that they’re keeping, would be ok. I just think they’re hopeless.

Not just work, but work for most of their working life, and work full time. Far too many people taking long work breaks, early retirement and not even working full time, when they are perfectly able to do so.

Not only that, but it's not ALL care - it's only "home" care, so won't include care homes etc. As usual with Labour, it's smoke and mirrors. Just a sop, like electoral reform which won't happen either, to make the forthcoming tax hikes more acceptable to the naive!

I don’t know how you know this unless you’ve got a crystal ball. No details have been released yet.

His wording in his speech made it pretty clear he means free personal care at home, rather than free care in care homes.

He's campaigning for the next election. Nothing will happen until after that. He hasn't said what he will do in the intervening years. Will we be subjected to more "visions" and not much else as the time tiktoks by...?

All very unsurprising I suppose.

Did it? I didn’t hear him say that. He referenced his dad and his grandma who were both in care homes and launched the social care initiative in one. He’s not stupid.

And the worst by a country mile for early retirement are public sector workers.
I'm surrounded by them - all retired at 55, all having a lovely time pottering around at the taxpayers' expense. And all Labour voters who have managed to convince the population that they are underpaid (unlikely unless they are at the very top end) and overworked so deserve to retire early as compensation.
The overly-generous public sector pensions have to be tackled as part of a general overhaul. But I don't see Labour doing it.

I am also surrounded by public sector workers. None have retired early by choice. One retired around age 62 as part of a unit downsizing.

I don’t regard my sample as significant and the same can be said for yours. Also, defined benefit pensions are adjusted actuarially for early retirement. Averaged overall, there is no extra cost to the taxpayer over what would happen if these people worked longer.

You may think their public sector pensions are cushy, but that is an entirely different conversation.