Would you vote for Labour/Getting rid of Triple Lock at the next general election?

[mybiggreenfrog]

Yes (YABU)
No (YANBU)

I don’t agree with scrapping the triple lock when we are haemorrhaging money on other things that we shouldn’t be spending taxpayers money on.

We need to scrap the triple lock AND cut the haemorrhage of taxes being wasted on welfare AND the utter waste in the NHS and other government departments.

Like? I’m a pensioner and it’s high time it went.

Regardless of cost or not, we need them to work to help with the skills shortage.

NHS pensions are funded by current NHS pension contributions not " The Taxpayer" not sure about other public sectors yes I know they are tax payers

Your comments about the 1995 Special classes retirees are really out of date
We are probably seeing the stragglers retiring now but contributors were moved to 2008 and then 2015 section in the NHS

NHS employer pension contributions are funded by the taxpayer as it comes out of the NHS’s budget.

The 1995 section retirees were final salary not DB so not adjusted, they got full pensions at 55
Also NHS pensions are paid from NHS pension contributions ( technically tax payers) not "The Taxpayer"

Nope it is separate
It comes directly from contributions made to the NHS pension scheme
Its not depriving anyone of a new hip !

But the employer contributions are still paid by the taxpayer regardless of which taxpayer pot it comes out of or how it’s coded in the state’s records.

Well unless the whole country works for the NHS/ PS yes
But tbey dont, its a defined scheme funded by current employee contributions
Its the I pay your pension sneering isnt it?
You dont

The NHS pension scheme is unfunded, meaning that current employees are paying for current pensioners. There is no ‘pot’ as such. Employer (aka you and me) contributions are 23.8%. Employee contributions for basic rate taxpayers are between about 5 and 8%.

It appears that the only taxpayers that count are those in the private sector. 🙄

Agree with ending triple lock but won't be voting labour. And I'm about to retire.

Yes
Are you suggesting that employers shouldnt contribute to pensions?
God those awful NHS staff who are already underpaid, how dare they want a pension !

@Katypp agree with you about retired public sector workers. No wonder these lifelong Labour voters are happy to be more benevolent with their state pensions. Not so great for those who rely on SP alone.

Are NHS staff not tax payers now?

I was a public service worker. Not a Labour voter 👋

Glad to see there are exceptions 😉

1995 was 31 years ago!
Current NHS/ PS employees dont get the 95 section, it was changed in 2008 -18 years ago and has changed again since then

Christ thats a long time to be so bitter!

Plenty of time for @Katypp to change career?No? 😉

It’s just shifting the money around. Currently the NHS is paying for people who can’t be discharged as there is insufficient care provision for them to live safely at home. Councils don’t have enough in-house staff to provide this so subcontract to agencies (standard of care varies). It has to be paid for, just a question of where really. I will be interested to see where the rest of the required funding will come from.

Where will the money come from?

Why ‘those with the broadest shoulders’. After all it is only ‘fair’. They already pay for everything else…

My DH is a public service worker (civil engineer) and he isn’t a Labour voter particularly, although he has voted for them in the past. He’s a floating voter.

No, I was a higher rate taxpayer for 20+ years so the job wasn’t mid range. I actually worked for 46 years. I’ve been paying tax now for 57 years and expect to do so until I die - possibly beyond.

Do you mean high rate, additional rate, or something more nuanced such as the Scottish bands?

I have around 30 years full time work chalked up. But only around 7 as an additional rate tax payer.

I benefit from the triple lock, but I've thought for some time that it isn't really fair, so I voted Yes.