Would you vote for Labour/Getting rid of Triple Lock at the next general election?

[mybiggreenfrog]

Yes (YABU)
No (YANBU)

If you have a house that has an order placed on it, bearing in mind it is still the property of the owner, the house could be returned to you in a better state, repaired and decorated, ready for the owner to rent out.

Do you actually believe what you're saying? or just typing for the sake of it?
So you leave your dilapidated second home for a year, your lovely council take over, do repair and redecoration, you come back and sell it or rent it out?

I don't disagree that empty housing used as an investment, predominantly by foreigners, is a huge issue. But to believe that council possession will do anything good to the property is just... strange. More likely they will break the door, install new locks and put in whoever is on housing list. And then whatever new occupants will do to the property...

Btw - what happens to owner's personal possessions in this case?

I don't have any skin in the game btw, only own my home.

Yes it is outrageous that statistics. It's not poor bereaved people who can't sell granny's house ( who will have an exemption) it's overseas investors buying up London property and using it as a money storage system. If we don't want the green belt paved over to build homes for people then these homes need to be brought back into use.

Do you think you think your sarcastic cynical point is pricking some balloon of delusion, that your revelations are going to lead us all to freedom!

Homes have to be habitable, to comply with the Homes (Fitness for Human Habitation) Act 2018.

Equally, can you read? As I outlined, second homes do not have these orders applied to them.

This in response to the indignant poster 2 down!

Absolutely not. I hope that there is a GE soon and that Kemi can get the Conservaties in shape in time to take over. I'm astonished at the number of people on here who are happy with what Labour are doing. Obviously the idea that this site skews right is nonsensical.

Equally, if you think homes sitting empty due to foreign investors is a problem, then do you not see how this may encourage selling the house and increasing stock available to avoid the order. In Denmark and you are a foreign national you have to prove you have been a resident in the country for five consecutive years before you can buy a house which to some extent removes this problem.

I don't debate the policy itself. I mildly disagree with it, as I disagree in principle with taking other people's possessions, I'd prefer it to be a huge, not double, but like ten folds council tax, but I don't care about this area too much.

I'm astonished to see the statement you put here that councils can take management of a property and make it better and return to the owner. My post was about this one. It's completely delusional. If a property is in inhabitable state the council won't bother with it in reality.

I will but that is because where I am it is between them and the woman hating Greens

@Goldenbear

as to 50% of London homes sitting empty - this is real scandal and sometime ago there was a legislation for builders to keep a property on the market for six months for local buyers before offering it to foreign investors. It's being reviewed now because it's mostly flats and they aren't selling at all so London housebuilding has slowed down drastically.

My answer is no. Though I like Andy.

As someone who will only be on a state pension and a tiny tiny private one I am worried but fully funded care is definitely something that a decent society should have

It won’t be fully funded. Ie there’ll still be high costs if not at home.

There won’t for people existing on a state pension with no assets. Those people will be far better off because they’ll be allowed to keep their pension. They lose it now.

I'm confused by your post - the whole point of an Empty Dwelling Management Order (EDMO) is to ensure that they are brought back into use, they have no choice but to make them habitable and in some cases they may be returned in a better state of repair than they were left, it isn't hard to understand that scenario.

There are a number of reasons that for the lack of demand though namely that rents are so high in London, younger (and older) buyers cannot raise the deposits, it's beneficial for Landlords of course. Mortgage rates are not favourable, Stamp duty is excessive, building costs including Labour and building supplies are still impacted by Brexit, building reg compliance pushes up costs, it isn't as if the locals just don't want to buy.

blssomtoes only someone who has never experienced a close relative suffering from dementia in a care or nursing home would describe it as the ‘hotel element’.

I wouldn't expect this policy to make the slightest practical difference to the costs of care in a residential or nursing home. Anyone who believes it will is either very naive or has no direct experience of interacting with this sector on behalf of a relative.

There are so many houses on the market they could buy those if they need them so badly. This government has done everything it could to punish Landlords. Empty houses already pay double council tax after six months and if empty for over 2 years they can charge 3x council tax. The worry of putting a tenant in a property knowing it's almost impossible to evict themakes some Landlords prefer leaving their houses empty rather than rent them out. I suspect they will sell the houses once we get a different government in.

The majority are now net receivers. The majority want their welfare and social benefits paid for by a shrinking minority of productive net contributors.

We're heading for disaster. I can't believe how naive so many people on this site are. They spend their time panicking about Russia and AI, and 'freeing' Palestine, and don't give a thought to what actually threatens us.

People can change from contributors to recipients literally overnight. I did. I went from 20+ years of being a top rate taxpayer to claiming my state pension.

Yes of course they can. But the 50 year trend is more and more net receivers. That’s unsustainable.

Yes, mostly countries in Europe, some to Australia, the US and Singapore also. If you look at the UK though, it ranks high on taxes and cost of living, but relatively low on quality of life.

It makes voting outcomes which exacerbate this harder to get out of too.

Low - middle incomes pay very little tax in the UK. It is high incomes who get smashed by taxes.

Meaningful change will only now come from an outside influence. For example the IMF technocrats and the Greek financial crisis. Then, all those generous benefits will be gone. Triple/double lock gone. Civil service pension scheme massive reform. Some of it will be brutal. Who ever is in government will be hated by the net receiving majority. Personally I can’t wait to sit back watch, sipping a large glass of schadenfreude.