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AIBU to feel confused by my husband's colleague's reactions?

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QuarryQueen · 27/09/2026 15:38

My DH works in a female dominated sector and I recently became friendly with one of his female colleagues after meeting her at a birthday party and our DC5 got on well with her DC4. We'll call her Abi.

We exchanged numbers and planned a playdate which went well. We arranged another playdate a few weeks after the first one and this was where things started getting weird. We went to soft play near her house and afterwards I asked if there was a nice country pub nearby as we'd probably go out for dinner as it was getting late and we were about 40 mins from home. I'd never been to the area before so wanted recommendations. She seemed very uncomfortable and said she'd show us the way and we could follow her in the car. I insisted there was no need but she said she would. Abi's DC then got upset saying they wanted to go to the pub for dinner too. Abi seemed very annoyed at this point so I said "Oh maybe next time DC" but she said "Well no I can't really say no now can I". She joined us at the pub but just had a drink and it was very awkward but we left as soon as we'd eaten (she stayed talking to people she knew) and I didn't think much else of it.

We had another playdate yesterday with Abi and her DC. She brought up us going to the pub and "skinting her" with soft play and drinks at the pub in one day. I said there was no obligation to join us and she just laughed.

My DC brought a teddy they'd got for their birthday with them to the playdate yesterday (play cafe) and Abi's DC was asking about it. It's a particular type of teddy that's popular with DC's friends and Abi's DC then wanted one. Their birthday is next week so I suggested they could ask the birthday fairy could get them one. Abi then went on this rant about spending more of her money for her which I replied I was actually thinking we could get it for DC for their birthday but obviously didn't want to say that directly to DC to ruin the surprise. She was very sheepish at that point and said she's already spent enough and DC has plenty for their birthday. The atmosphere after that was a bit off and I don't really know whether to buy the teddy or not. I'm guessing not?

I'm just really confused at this point to be honest, was I in the wrong to ask for the pub recommendation? Was I wrong to offer to buy the teddy for her DC's birthday?

OP posts:
Nevs · 29/09/2026 14:40

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:35

Yup, when you're skint £50 for a meal and a teddy may as well be a million quid.

Give it a rest. I know skint, I grew up in poverty in Russia. Having a pub dinner because your child needs feeding and you’re a 40 minute drive from home, and a teddy bear for a birthday present is not extravagant spending. If the mother is concerned about money that’s on her to manage her stress and not take it out on others who are simply living a normal way of life.

The mother has just bought a new high end car- does this give the OP the right to be snappy because she can’t afford the same?

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:43

Nevs · 29/09/2026 14:40

Give it a rest. I know skint, I grew up in poverty in Russia. Having a pub dinner because your child needs feeding and you’re a 40 minute drive from home, and a teddy bear for a birthday present is not extravagant spending. If the mother is concerned about money that’s on her to manage her stress and not take it out on others who are simply living a normal way of life.

The mother has just bought a new high end car- does this give the OP the right to be snappy because she can’t afford the same?

Then you dont know skint, do you.

Nevs · 29/09/2026 14:44

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:43

Then you dont know skint, do you.

How do you come to that conclusion? What a strange thing to say.

Regardless if someone is skint or not (by your standards) it’s on them that manage how they present themselves. You’re probably one of those people who feels like something wrong in your life is always someone else’s fault.

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:45

Nevs · 29/09/2026 14:44

How do you come to that conclusion? What a strange thing to say.

Regardless if someone is skint or not (by your standards) it’s on them that manage how they present themselves. You’re probably one of those people who feels like something wrong in your life is always someone else’s fault.

Edited

I know skint, I grew up in poverty in Russia. Having a pub dinner because your child needs feeding and you’re a 40 minute drive from home, and a teddy bear for a birthday present is not extravagant spending.

Mainly due to this.

Nevs · 29/09/2026 14:48

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:45

I know skint, I grew up in poverty in Russia. Having a pub dinner because your child needs feeding and you’re a 40 minute drive from home, and a teddy bear for a birthday present is not extravagant spending.

Mainly due to this.

You think I don’t know skint when I’ve lived in poverty stricken country? You’re delusional you’re frankly.

Even if I was still skint I wouldn’t act sour towards my friend about it.

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:50

Nevs · 29/09/2026 14:48

You think I don’t know skint when I’ve lived in poverty stricken country? You’re delusional you’re frankly.

Even if I was still skint I wouldn’t act sour towards my friend about it.

Not if you think dropping £50 odd on a meal and a teddy isnt a big deal, no.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 29/09/2026 14:52

She is being unreasonable. Being weird about joining you at the pub and then oddly defensive. I like to be friends with people I can relax with, Abi would have me on edge abut how she'll react next.

Nevs · 29/09/2026 14:53

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:50

Not if you think dropping £50 odd on a meal and a teddy isnt a big deal, no.

You’ve just fabricated £50 to strengthen your argument. I’ve seen your other posts which speaks volumes so nevermind it’s a lost cause debating with you 😊

DeftGoldHedgehog · 29/09/2026 14:57

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:43

Then you dont know skint, do you.

If you are skint, or just a normal person, in the first scenario you just give the name of the pub then the kids are not asking for dinner out. There is no scenario in which Abi needed to accompany the OP.

I expected the post to be about Abi being overly clingy at that point TBH.

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:59

Nevs · 29/09/2026 14:53

You’ve just fabricated £50 to strengthen your argument. I’ve seen your other posts which speaks volumes so nevermind it’s a lost cause debating with you 😊

£30ish for a neal and £20ish for a teddy.

Not sure why you bothered quoting me given you've 'seen my other posts' 🤣

dontforgetofeedthecat · 29/09/2026 14:59

GossipIsTheDevilsTelephone · 29/09/2026 14:35

Yup, when you're skint £50 for a meal and a teddy may as well be a million quid.

if they had been discussing holidays, would she also had booked a luxury holidays just because they discussed it?

If you are skint, why on earth would you go to a pub where you are not even invited?😂

Nevs · 29/09/2026 15:00

OP I’d nip her behaviour in the bud quickly, or just discontinue the play dates. She’s been probably feeling the pinch after a buying a new high end car as you mentioned, but so what, that’s called a lack of financial planning and budgeting, and it’s not your problem to deal with.

She sounds like a professional victim, sat there in the pub drinking only a wine and watching you eat your dinner (poor etiquette) when she had every option to drive straight home. Very strange behaviour.

Nevs · 29/09/2026 15:14

dontforgetofeedthecat · 29/09/2026 14:59

if they had been discussing holidays, would she also had booked a luxury holidays just because they discussed it?

If you are skint, why on earth would you go to a pub where you are not even invited?😂

Agree. Also inviting yourself along, ordering only a drink and watching someone eat is actually rude manners. No wonder the OP felt awkward.

AlwaysExtraHot · 29/09/2026 15:23

ColadhSamh · 29/09/2026 14:16

I feel sorry for Abi. The drink only at the pub along with the skint comment should have at least alerted you that for whatever reason, money may be an issue. Just because as a family they may earn more that doesn't automatically mean they have more disposable income. Her OH may be more controlling over her spends or they may have huge financial commitments you know nothing about and neither should you.

The judgements from others here are disappointing. There are many, many reasons people are either unwilling or unable to spend money. How many times have we read posts here from women who are desperate and at the end of the line over finances. They don't want to share it with friends and family as they are ashamed, embarrassed and desperate. Many, on paper, earn well. Accumulated debts, gambling, the need to have a huge nest egg or a controlling partner can all have an impact on what's available to spend freely.

Yet again another thread where women are casting judgement with minimum details. If Abi cannot or doesn't want to spend her money thst is her choice. Good on her for saying no.

I'm not judging her for not having money.
I'm judging her for seeming to look for situations to get arsey about.

KateBushAgain · 29/09/2026 17:44

Your birthday fairy comment was a bit off but it pales to insignificance compared to her batshit behaviour .
Did she really sit with a drink watching you eat your dinner ?
She’s an odd fish .

QuarryQueen · 29/09/2026 18:59

Whoops75 · 29/09/2026 14:22

I don’t think you have done anything wrong OP. A £15 teddy and soft play isn’t too much of a stretch for most working parents .

I would but the teddy for their child and let them reach out for the next meet up. TBH not sure how interested I would be in a relationship where I had to walk in eggshells!

I ended up messaging her to apologise if I put her in an difficult position re. The teddy comment. I confirmed I have ordered the teddy for him for his birthday. She thanked me and said just finds it hard to say no and his birthday list has been getting longer and longer the closer it gets. She worries he will be disappointed if he doesn't get it all. Apparently every day he comes home from school asking for something else his friends have mentioned so she was feeling a bit fraught with it all.

OP posts:
QuarryQueen · 29/09/2026 19:00

KateBushAgain · 29/09/2026 17:44

Your birthday fairy comment was a bit off but it pales to insignificance compared to her batshit behaviour .
Did she really sit with a drink watching you eat your dinner ?
She’s an odd fish .

She was sat on the table next to us but turned towards us chatting and then some of the locals she knows came in and she was chatting to them whilst were eating. It was a bit weird to be honest.

OP posts:
QuarryQueen · 29/09/2026 19:06

ginasevern · 28/09/2026 18:41

But you don't make those sort of promises to other people's children. The mother wouldn't have had a clue that the OP intended to buy the teddy. Why would she? There was absolutely nothing in her words to suggest that she was going to buy it. They barely know each other and you just don't say that sort of thing to a virtual stranger's child. It's completely inappropriate.

Surely if you are invited to the child's party you usually buy a present? She also attended our child's party and bought a present. I was going to follow-up with an explanation as soon as they child was our of earshot but she didn't give me chance with her rant.

OP posts:
Nevs · 29/09/2026 19:08

QuarryQueen · 29/09/2026 19:00

She was sat on the table next to us but turned towards us chatting and then some of the locals she knows came in and she was chatting to them whilst were eating. It was a bit weird to be honest.

Edited

She’s rude. She’s violated more social norms than you have. It’s a shame you apologised to be honest, next time she wants to whine about how you’re rubbing her pub dinner in her face you can tell her “Well actually I didn’t appreciate you tagging along just to watch me eat and make me feel awkward. Most people would have the awareness just to not come”. I’m amazed she put this one on you.

QuarryQueen · 29/09/2026 19:09

Nevs · 29/09/2026 15:00

OP I’d nip her behaviour in the bud quickly, or just discontinue the play dates. She’s been probably feeling the pinch after a buying a new high end car as you mentioned, but so what, that’s called a lack of financial planning and budgeting, and it’s not your problem to deal with.

She sounds like a professional victim, sat there in the pub drinking only a wine and watching you eat your dinner (poor etiquette) when she had every option to drive straight home. Very strange behaviour.

Edited

I spoke to my DH about it after I messaged her yesterday to apologise and apparently she has been in trouble at work (he wouldn't say what for but it's been going on for a few weeks apparently) so maybe that was why she was weird with me (my DH is her boss).

OP posts:
Superscientist · 29/09/2026 19:40

AlwaysExtraHot · 28/09/2026 21:36

No. She suggested soft play. She insisted on coming to the pub rather than giving a recommendation or directions.
Why are you trying to misrepresent the OP?

The colleague may have suggested the soft play but it was the OP that brought up that they were then going out for a meal. There is quite a price difference between going to a soft play and soft play plus a meal. Soft play here is ~£6 and £3.50 for a coffee but the local pub is £15 for a sandwich and chips, £6-10 for a childs meal plus £5 for a coke and fruit shoot. That takes a morning out from £10 to £40.

The colleagues child then got upset as they also wanted to go out for a meal and when Abi was getting upset about this the OP said maybe next time. After this Abi felt unable to not say no to the her child.

Now this is on Abi, it is not the OPs fault that Abi couldn't afford /want to go for the meal too but it also wasn't the OPs place to say next time they could go for a meal. I can see how this could annoy Abi - and how as I said "rightly or wrongly" Abi had a problem with it. Personally, I would say that Abi is wrong to have assigned the blame of dangling the "treat" of dinner out as the OPs fault and it was on Abi to explain that they can't do it today or even at all. I wouldn't have mentioned the meal in ear shot of the children as children always want to continue the fun but at the same time if I was Abi, I would see it as my responsibility to manage my child's expectations and explain to them why we weren't going for lunch and why OP was.

The next playdate, following Abi mentioning the last trip "skinting her" and then the OP making another promise to Abis child that money will be spent for them to get something. When children talk about any mythical being bringing presents the unwritten code to other parents is "we or nearest family will be getting presents under the guise of the birthday fairy" to use this language on the back drop of the meal and pub date I can can see how again "rightly or wrongly" Abi has got annoyed. I would see that my role as parent in this example would be interject and remind them that they would get plenty of presents for their birthday or have lovely toys at home..

It's possible to see how another person came to a position even if you don't agree with that thought process. Based on the OPs representation of her interactions with Abi, Abi finds it difficult to communicate when things are beyond her budget especially when it's infront of her child, I wonder whether she didn't want you to think that she couldn't afford to join you for the meal too and struggled with finding the words to communicate that she couldn't come to the pub too even though she hadn't been invited to come along.

Family finances are tight for some families right now, is she full time or part time? She might have a higher mortgage, the new car that comes with hefty monthly costs, the daily coffee is an expensive habit. All together it could be a lifestyle that doesn't have much give. There could be hundred and one other reasons why she doesn't have the means for extras beyond what she has suggested.

In OPs position, I'd let Abi know that she didn't mean any harm, she didn't intend for them to join them at the pub or have to go and buy another present. That the the children enjoy playing together and it's ok to stick to whatever pre-agreed activity is

I have a friend, who I now know is on a tight budget but one of the first afternoons out we got ice creams/lollies for the children. Hers had two bites of the ice cream and didn't want the rest. She couldn't eat the rest as she can't eat dairy nor can my daughter so it went in the bin. As she did she said "that was an expensive mistake". That has framed things I plan with her knowing, that for her an ice cream from van is an expensive treat and adjusted things my child gets accordingly so it's means that they both roughly get the same. Play dates with this family are often places where we can bring our own lunches and there aren't too many upfront costs.

Alittlefrustrated · 29/09/2026 19:50

I don't think she's skint OP - it's a parenting/child behaviour problem, not a money problem. She's struggling with demands and tantrums, rather than money.
It's easier to blame you than admit to the difficulties.

lev2002 · 29/09/2026 20:20

Being skint doesn't give you the right to be an arse to someone else.
Even if you had invited her to the pub (which you didn't) and she couldn't afford it, she could make an excuse not to go. That's like saying never invite anyone to do things in case they can't afford it and you offend them!
I cannot fathom why she followed you to the pub. I also don't think your birthday fairy comment was bad at all considering it's language you know she uses, and you already knew you were happy to buy it. The issue is she reacted so quickly and angrily she didn't give you any chance to explain.

pizzaHeart · 29/09/2026 20:42

QuarryQueen · 29/09/2026 19:09

I spoke to my DH about it after I messaged her yesterday to apologise and apparently she has been in trouble at work (he wouldn't say what for but it's been going on for a few weeks apparently) so maybe that was why she was weird with me (my DH is her boss).

It looks like a combination of struggles with parenting plus you being her boss’s wife puts a pressure on her. To make things worse her child wants to play with yours.
I would limit contact a bit and would stick to structured activities where expectations, length and price are obvious.

Mackerelfillets · 29/09/2026 21:28

Def buy the teddy. There are money worries there. Maybe her DH overspends. Dont mention money and suggest cheaper play dates.