To be disappointed Dolly Parton supported biological men using women's toilets?

[Jane3212]

I really liked her music and she seemed like a nice person: her Imagination Library came to my borough recently. I was very sad to hear she'd died.
But was very disappointed to read this. The statements she made about trans people deserving respect, no issue with those.
But minimising the reasonable concerns women have about being forced to let men in their toilets was wrong.
I'm not saying she should have spoken out for GC issues. It might have been best just not to comment.
Parton had connections with drag queens and I wonder if that's the lens she saw transwomen through : not an excuse but might partially explain.

YANBU, but it was never going to affect her.
It's very easy to, "be kind", when it won't be you.

I read what you linked then I read the copy of what you linked.

At no point does ahe say transwomen (men) should be allowed to pee in women's toilets.

Even what you re posted doesn't say that,

What I do know is that she seems to have gone out of her way to appeal to everybody and not takes sides.

I also know that she paid for her drivers transition in the 1990's.

And that she could have been a billionaire but spent the money on various causes that benefitted many people.

It seems that she was one of those rare people that did infact love and care for everybody.

Why some people have difficulty with that is beyond me.

Dolly grew up in a 2 room shack with siblings, so I guess that's what informed her, sharing loos and all that.

She was a gay icon.

At the age of 80 and being very far from real life in this day and age she just didn't get it what it's like for women nowadays.

She'd be horrified if she knew the reality now I think.

I love Dolly!

I wish this subject could be kept with the obsessives in the Feminism section of MN . Does it need to be out here ? leave the woman alone her body's barely cold.

Not every person can support every cause. She was invested in bringing kids out of poverty, improving literacy and many more things. Not everything all the time has to be about gender and toilets. There are many other things to care about, whilst for some it's the most important. We all have different passions

You seriously need to get a hobby or some fun in your life.

After the Ed Sheeran debacle I think public figures should stay as neutral as possible. The world will become a little more beige and lacking in context but that’s the way it has to be in a binary social media world that does not allow for any nuance

No, it doesn't mean no one can say anything negative about her. But maybe wait until she's been dead longer than a couple of weeks.

There's plenty of alive people with her views that you could choose to criticise.

I agree
then I can avoid the ongoing obsession with toilets and belief all men, especially ones in frocks, are fetished rapists

She wasn’t wrong. The so-called ‘feminists’ who think trans women are not women are wrong. HTH.

I'm sick of people having to be ideologically perfect before we can read their books or listen to their music. Sixth form debating society nonsense. Grow the fuck up.

I know one thing, she would not be gossiping about your beliefs online after you died. Move on.

Agree with both of you - a lot of posters are obsessed with this topic on here.

The funny thing is someone could be two steps away from being Hitler but if they are GC those same posters will support &
praise that person, while criticising amazing people like Dolly Parton and saying what a disappointment it is.
And yeah would be good if they keep it to the feminism board.

Oh can we not let Dolly rest in peace? Really, out of everything she’s done, this is your hot take?

What agenda? Not wanting men in women's spaces? Nothing bigoted about that.

The very act of crying 'bigot!' shows it is you that has an agenda. The agenda of allowing/wanting men in women and girls spaces.

Well that's what OPs thread is about, it even says that in the title.

Which part of the males are women?

What you mean is sane people who KNOW trans identifying men are NOT women.

KJK is not a feminist and as she says, I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is.

@Jane3212 okaaay

No one really cares that you're 'disappointed' about this.

Least of all Dolly Parton!

I'm sure dolly did a lot more good for this world than you did 😊 my friends kids loved getting a book each month from her ❤️❤️❤️

Pearl clutching.

Where does she explicitly say she supports biological men using women’s toilets and why do you feel the need to criticise her a couple of weeks after she’s died?

They aren’t, they’re men.

I will never stop saying it, because it’s the objective, obvious truth.

This is an unusual response given that mumsnet is vehemently anti trans.
Dolly was great but I do not agree with her on the bathroom issue.
Dosn't mean that she wasn't a shining light.