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Rise of far right

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Sillyme1 · Today 07:00

Any one else worried about the rise of the far right in Europe. Churchill once said ‘those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it’. Obviously social conditions are different from the 1930s, but there are similarities such as using immigrants as scapegoats (not Jews this time). Things can so easily escalate and I admit to being worried

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Livelovebehappy · Today 16:37

StandFirm · Today 16:28

90% of children who will be bilingual (if they're not already) by the time they're 6 years old. That's a brilliant cause for celebration. Kids in my daughter's class speak about 10 languages between themselves and it's one of the top performing state primary in England.

Not every child in your daughter’s class will speak 10 languages. Schools in the UK should encourage children to speak the language of their own country in general, unless they’re taking part in language classes such as French/Spanish etc. education in the UK isn’t great, without introducing 10 languages, which will also lead to peer exclusion if a child doesn’t have a grasp of multiple foreign languages. Let’s be honest, the reason different languages are spoken in general in a work/school environments are between people/children who share that language, to exclude others.

Soitshoteh · Today 16:37

Jollygreygiantess · Today 16:31

I have no idea what Reform would do.
I expect that they would be professional and let due process take it's course.
And stop attacking me because I have a different opinion to you and choose to give a different viewpoint that doesn't fit your narrative.

How was what I wrote an attack?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 16:38

Lemonraider · Today 16:36

I haven't.

Oh, I assure you, you've said plenty. We get the measure of you.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 16:38

Bloozie · Today 16:33

They were all wearing black. Come on.

You "come on".
Have you never been on a demo?
All attendees were probably advised to wear black for that particular demo because it interferes with identification if everyone looks the same. They could all wear purple as long as they are all dressed the same.

Gloriia · Today 16:38

Bloozie · Today 16:33

They were all wearing black. Come on.

So what. No placards inciting hate and murder, no looting, no fires. Wearing black should not have you shaking in your shoes.

There were clearly hiding any identifying features/clothing lest they get harassed and doxxed. Sadly as we've seen on this very thread objecting to hundreds of men arriving illegally Is 'right wing'.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 16:40

Soitshoteh · Today 16:37

How was what I wrote an attack?

Just re-read what you wrote and it will be clear.

Anyahyacinth · Today 16:40

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:33

Feel free to be more respectful of somebody who was murdered. I know what was said and I know the context in which he spoke about all topics.

I don’t need to respect anyone because they are murdered…do you support paedophiles murdered by other prisoners in the UK ‘because they were murdered’ ? Some how murder sanitises? What a bizarre approach to morality

Gloriia · Today 16:40

I hope it becomes a nationwide thing. Maybe a colour code could be introduced for those scared of black? Purple onesie be ok or would some still be triggered?

StandFirm · Today 16:41

Livelovebehappy · Today 16:37

Not every child in your daughter’s class will speak 10 languages. Schools in the UK should encourage children to speak the language of their own country in general, unless they’re taking part in language classes such as French/Spanish etc. education in the UK isn’t great, without introducing 10 languages, which will also lead to peer exclusion if a child doesn’t have a grasp of multiple foreign languages. Let’s be honest, the reason different languages are spoken in general in a work/school environments are between people/children who share that language, to exclude others.

You misunderstood my post: counting all the languages spoken in total by the kids in the class, you'd get about 10 or so - collectively! Of course no child speaks 10! But that was to highlight the actual diversity and breadth of linguistic and cultural knowledge that my DD is growing up with through her friends. As I said, now those kids with some degree of foreign heritage are at an age where they all speak and write perfect English and the school does extremely well in SATs every year.
Edit to add: all the kids speak English amongst themselves anyway, that's their common language.

Contain4 · Today 16:41

Lemonraider · Today 16:25

That's going do well isn't it, especially in the schools near me that have 90 percent foreign speaking children at 4 years old. Tell 4 year olds in 200 languages that Britain is a democracy and everything will be fine.

They’ve been teaching British values for years.

Schools have a legal duty to teach them as part of the national curriculum and are assessed on them by ofsted.

Students are even asked by ofsted what these values are and you are also usually asked at interview.

This has been in place for at least 10 years and I’ve not heard any complaints from people not born here.

I’m not sure what speaking a second language has to do with British Values. You can still follow British values whilst knowing multiple languages.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 16:41

Gloriia · Today 16:40

I hope it becomes a nationwide thing. Maybe a colour code could be introduced for those scared of black? Purple onesie be ok or would some still be triggered?

Lol😆

IdaGlossop · Today 16:42

Jollygreygiantess · Today 16:31

I have no idea what Reform would do.
I expect that they would be professional and let due process take it's course.
And stop attacking me because I have a different opinion to you and choose to give a different viewpoint that doesn't fit your narrative.

You are deluded if you expect Reform to be professional about anything. Just over the last few days, their leader has dismissed two loyal members of staff as consultants (to save himself), told conference delegates and the media that the police told him to postpone his speech because of security concerns (they didn't), publicly mocked a woman while she was beaten up by members of his party (seconded onnSky News by Robert Jenrick, father to two daughters), and appeared in a sting being bullish about £30,000 of foreign money funding opinion research favourable to Reform (and nodding happily at talk of a further £500,000 coming Reform's way).

2andadog · Today 16:42

newstartforjune26 · Today 15:51

All this brings up the scum to the surface. The number of crocheting, joules wearing middle class mums sniggering at an 80 year old lady bludgeoned to death in her own home told me all I need to know about the left.

You realise people of all political leanings can be horrified at a murder, right? They can also not agree with the victims beliefs, but still be horrified at violence, you do understand that?

Also, I believe this is a scenario completely made up by yourself, so maybe have a look at where your internalised prejudice and hate is coming from.

Gloriia · Today 16:43

Anyahyacinth · Today 16:40

I don’t need to respect anyone because they are murdered…do you support paedophiles murdered by other prisoners in the UK ‘because they were murdered’ ? Some how murder sanitises? What a bizarre approach to morality

Please do not compare Charlie Kirk to a paedophile. One is a criminal and deserves no respect obviously the other was a massive free speech advocate and was murdered. He deserves respect.

Soitshoteh · Today 16:44

Jollygreygiantess · Today 16:40

Just re-read what you wrote and it will be clear.

Re- read it , still not an attack
@Jollygreygiantess if you’re referring to the ‘shame on you’ , me commenting that on what you said is not an attack by any stretch of the imagination

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:44

Gloriia · Today 16:40

I hope it becomes a nationwide thing. Maybe a colour code could be introduced for those scared of black? Purple onesie be ok or would some still be triggered?

They don't really give a toss about how those men were dressed. It's not the colour of the clothes they are triggered by. They still presume every single one of them were white so they can't be that triggered if they took a good look to be focused on their skin colour.

Lemonraider · Today 16:45

StandFirm · Today 16:36

Still evading.

What's happening to them in your ideal world? When is the ideal world created by mass immigration going to appear?

Anyahyacinth · Today 16:45

Livelovebehappy · Today 16:37

Not every child in your daughter’s class will speak 10 languages. Schools in the UK should encourage children to speak the language of their own country in general, unless they’re taking part in language classes such as French/Spanish etc. education in the UK isn’t great, without introducing 10 languages, which will also lead to peer exclusion if a child doesn’t have a grasp of multiple foreign languages. Let’s be honest, the reason different languages are spoken in general in a work/school environments are between people/children who share that language, to exclude others.

Oh my goodness all those British Expats across the world excluding others by not speaking the language

The fear and insecurity in people who fear they cannot compete = racist excuses …for fear of being challenged to be and do better.

To actually consider the structural problems in our society of where wealth is being held and siphoned …too scary …let’s blame poor strangers instead. I thought our country had a Christian heritage?

Love each other, love thy neighbour? Anyone?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:45

Anyahyacinth · Today 16:40

I don’t need to respect anyone because they are murdered…do you support paedophiles murdered by other prisoners in the UK ‘because they were murdered’ ? Some how murder sanitises? What a bizarre approach to morality

You reckon you're on the moral side. I think not. Good to see you though.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 16:46

IdaGlossop · Today 16:42

You are deluded if you expect Reform to be professional about anything. Just over the last few days, their leader has dismissed two loyal members of staff as consultants (to save himself), told conference delegates and the media that the police told him to postpone his speech because of security concerns (they didn't), publicly mocked a woman while she was beaten up by members of his party (seconded onnSky News by Robert Jenrick, father to two daughters), and appeared in a sting being bullish about £30,000 of foreign money funding opinion research favourable to Reform (and nodding happily at talk of a further £500,000 coming Reform's way).

OK feel free to indulge your own opinions and promote your own narrative.
If anyone has 'behaved badly'; then they will be taken to task and due process will take its course.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 16:46

Gloriia · Today 16:43

Please do not compare Charlie Kirk to a paedophile. One is a criminal and deserves no respect obviously the other was a massive free speech advocate and was murdered. He deserves respect.

Absolutely vile but just backing up what you said.

Livelovebehappy · Today 16:46

If Reform get in at the next election, it will be because a majority of people in the UK who have real concerns about immigration, feel that they are not being listened to. People cannot dismiss the concerns of a majority of voters just because they don’t agree with them. Labour have a choice, either listen and be proactive about immigration, or just arrogantly ignore the masses. If Reform get in, then the only people to blame are the government. There would be no place in British politics for parties like Reform if the Government did what they are elected to do, which is to listen to voters instead of blindly implementing their own ideology.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 16:47

Soitshoteh · Today 16:44

Re- read it , still not an attack
@Jollygreygiantess if you’re referring to the ‘shame on you’ , me commenting that on what you said is not an attack by any stretch of the imagination

Edited

OK please yourself.

Worrall20 · Today 16:47

OneLilacHedgehog · Today 09:40

@WecanbeheroeslikeBowie I don't believe you. And yes I live in one of the areas far right people claim is not safe for white people. I am white. It is all bollocks.

Don’t Antifa dress in black with a balaclava? So it ok for one set of protestors but not the other?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 16:47

Lemonraider · Today 16:45

What's happening to them in your ideal world? When is the ideal world created by mass immigration going to appear?

More evasion.

It either doesn't have an answer or else it doesn't want to say. I think we can take a few educated guesses.