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Rise of far right

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Sillyme1 · Today 07:00

Any one else worried about the rise of the far right in Europe. Churchill once said ‘those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it’. Obviously social conditions are different from the 1930s, but there are similarities such as using immigrants as scapegoats (not Jews this time). Things can so easily escalate and I admit to being worried

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StandFirm · Today 15:41

Gloriia · Today 15:34

So not proscribed then as the pp claimed?

I wouldn't use the word proscribed. Ostracised is more accurate.

Gloriia · Today 15:43

The posters complaining need to be honest, did you come on mn and complain about pro pal marches with keffiyehs hiding faces and placards wishing death to Israel etc?

Do you object to men dressed as women holding placards wishing death to women whilst they hide behind wigs amd make up?

If yes good. Just try to be consistent, either accept protests are part of a free country or don't but to be scared allegedly because these protestors stood silently in black outfits being absolutely non threatening is batshit.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:44

Daygloboo · Today 15:21

Just as a matter of interest, following on from.what Farage said the other day, does anyone else think he might be close to quitting. I do. I think he'll quit soon and then all the other contenders will start fighting like rats in a sack to see who can wear the crown. Can you imagine. That Zia bloke. Jenrick. Suella Braverman..All scrapping like kids in the playground to be the next leader. Then sulking and picking up their ball and threatening not to play anymore when they dont get enough votes. Watch this space.

I think it's already planned that 'Zia bloke' will take over, sooner than you think.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 15:44

Goldenbear · Today 15:32

At the end of the day there is no justification for this violence from a group of people towards one woman.

So why doesn't the woman go to West Midlands Police and make a complaint ?

Bloozie · Today 15:45

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:26

No they don't have banners with hostile threatening slogans towards Jews. They don't tear down leaflets either, disrupting an appeal to bring home hostages. I think a missed ferry and being late for work is quite trivial in the grand scheme of things.

Get away with you. You'd be as scared as the next person by 300 men all dressed in black and wearing ballies - it's chilling - and you sound utterly deranged when you try and argue otherwise.

Sane people would rather walk past three black or brown people in the street than the 300 angry men in balaclavas.

Gloriia · Today 15:45

Contain4 · Today 15:41

That’s because they’re chatting shit.

The reason none of these women happened to be at this protest is because they would be too scared to go because they know these men are likely to attack them.

Even Farage has condemned these men for wearing face coverings.

I do not want it to ever be acceptable for hundreds of men to walk around in balaclavas chanting and trying to be intimidating.

I hope this doesn’t lead to other groups doing the same.

'Chatting shit' <wtf Grin>

If I lived in Dover I would not have been scared. HTH.

nomas · Today 15:45

Jollygreygiantess · Today 15:44

So why doesn't the woman go to West Midlands Police and make a complaint ?

Victim blaming at its worst.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:45

Bloozie · Today 15:45

Get away with you. You'd be as scared as the next person by 300 men all dressed in black and wearing ballies - it's chilling - and you sound utterly deranged when you try and argue otherwise.

Sane people would rather walk past three black or brown people in the street than the 300 angry men in balaclavas.

Are you being racist?

Lemonraider · Today 15:46

JHound · Today 12:46

How is it patronising? She references skin tone several times. How is me stating that “patronising”?

Also evidence that “immigrants demanded reference to skin tone” given reference to skin tone has been happening in Britain for centuries?

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2. How the groups were chosen
The Office for National Statistics runs the Census of England and Wales every 10 years. They decide which ethnic groups to include in consultation with:

  • users of Census data (like government departments, local authorities, and the National Health Service)
  • people completing the Census, and the interest groups that represent them
  • the organisations that run the Censuses in Northern Ireland and Scotland
https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/ethnic-groups/

List of ethnic groups

Read about the 18 ethnic groups recommended for use by government when they ask for someone’s ethnicity in England and Wales.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/ethnic-groups

Arafina · Today 15:46

dustabsorber · Today 09:41

Near where I live, there is an HMO. Migrants hang around outside drinking until it's time for them to pop over to the chemist opposite for their shot of methadone.

If they're alcoholic junkies I don't think there's much danger of them taking over the country any time soon

newstartforjune26 · Today 15:47

I once told a good friend, in passing, that I was not liberal and liked Kemi Badendoch and since then we are no longer close friends. Years of relatively close friendship.

I live in a liberal area and admitting to not been keen on Islam or the boats is akin to dressing in white robes.

These men cover their faces as they have jobs I’d imagine. I’d be a lot less scared of them than a MTF transsexual at a march with a banner saying ‘die terfs!’.

Where I live everyone clutches their pearls when our actual own flag is hung up. Our national flag is a sign of racism.

Gloriia · Today 15:47

'These men cover their faces as they have jobs I’d imagine. I’d be a lot less scared of them than a MTF transsexual at a march with a banner saying ‘die terfs!’.

Exactly.

nomas · Today 15:48

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:45

Are you being racist?

Egregious use of racism card.

Of course 300 men in balaclavas is scarier than 3 men not wearing balaclavas.

newstartforjune26 · Today 15:49

Ask that lady referenced earlier who was gang raped on Brighton Beach and filmed by the smiling, non-mask wearing attackers.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 15:49

newstartforjune26 · Today 15:47

I once told a good friend, in passing, that I was not liberal and liked Kemi Badendoch and since then we are no longer close friends. Years of relatively close friendship.

I live in a liberal area and admitting to not been keen on Islam or the boats is akin to dressing in white robes.

These men cover their faces as they have jobs I’d imagine. I’d be a lot less scared of them than a MTF transsexual at a march with a banner saying ‘die terfs!’.

Where I live everyone clutches their pearls when our actual own flag is hung up. Our national flag is a sign of racism.

Well said. Imagine a grown woman falling out with you because you have different political views. I'd be ashamed to admit it.

nomas · Today 15:50

Gloriia · Today 15:47

'These men cover their faces as they have jobs I’d imagine. I’d be a lot less scared of them than a MTF transsexual at a march with a banner saying ‘die terfs!’.

Exactly.

So 300 men in balaclavas is now a cosy sight of a group of hard working, married, family men?

Hilarious.

Unphased · Today 15:50

OneLilacHedgehog · Today 14:42

@Unphased Boris said there would be a points based system, instead of favouring EU residents after Brexit. That is what we have. Many posters at the time said it would lead to more immigration. They were shouted down by Brexit supporters.
I am sorry if you didn't know what you were voting for. But this outcome was made clear at the time.

It was up to the negotiators to negotiate a deal not the voters who had a simple binary remain/leave vote, it’s in the government’s hands to stop illegal and legal immigration, they have failed, now normal people that have grave concerns over immigration are now turning to parties that say they will do something about it, the raise of so called far right parties is down to governments not doing anything about it,

Jollygreygiantess · Today 15:50

nomas · Today 15:45

Victim blaming at its worst.

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Don't be ridiculous. Have you ever been on a demo? No I didn't think so.
If I had been seriously assaulted on a demo and my friends had footage of it I would be down at the local cop-shop in record time and would have made sure that heads would roll.
Fortunately it never happened, because I and my friends who were protesters didn't antagonise people.
We stuck to the rules, did our protest, made our point and left.

StandFirm · Today 15:51

I'd say 300 angry men gathered somewhere in protest, even without balaclavas, are intimidating to most women regardless of their skin colour. The tension would have been palpable. No woman wants to be near that as violence can erupt at any time.

Gloriia · Today 15:51

nomas · Today 15:48

Egregious use of racism card.

Of course 300 men in balaclavas is scarier than 3 men not wearing balaclavas.

I get you a bit. Face coverings can of course be unsettling but context matters. They weren't marauding, they were not looting JD sports, they were not setting fire to buildings as we've seen in so many 'peaceful protests'.
Their actions were absolutely non threatening.

newstartforjune26 · Today 15:51

All this brings up the scum to the surface. The number of crocheting, joules wearing middle class mums sniggering at an 80 year old lady bludgeoned to death in her own home told me all I need to know about the left.

Lemonraider · Today 15:51

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 15:06

@Lemonraider, please clarify what exactly your problem is with my dd, who has a foreign-born parent?

As a law-abiding young woman who volunteers in her local community and is currently training to be a doctor, what harm can you possibly feel she is doing to you? Is it merely that the colour of her skin offends you?

Do you realise how deeply hurtful your comments are to innocent British citizens who have done nothing wrong? Do you care?

No.

You don't care about the demographics of the native population either.

EasternStandard · Today 15:52

Gloriia · Today 15:45

'Chatting shit' <wtf Grin>

If I lived in Dover I would not have been scared. HTH.

Haha at ‘chatting shit’ from pp.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 15:52

newstartforjune26 · Today 15:51

All this brings up the scum to the surface. The number of crocheting, joules wearing middle class mums sniggering at an 80 year old lady bludgeoned to death in her own home told me all I need to know about the left.

What the Hell was that about?
Where and why ?
That's awful.

StandFirm · Today 15:53

newstartforjune26 · Today 15:51

All this brings up the scum to the surface. The number of crocheting, joules wearing middle class mums sniggering at an 80 year old lady bludgeoned to death in her own home told me all I need to know about the left.

not seen a single one of those on this thread.

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