Rise of far right

[Sillyme1]

Any one else worried about the rise of the far right in Europe. Churchill once said ‘those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it’. Obviously social conditions are different from the 1930s, but there are similarities such as using immigrants as scapegoats (not Jews this time). Things can so easily escalate and I admit to being worried

@Unphased Boris said there would be a points based system, instead of favouring EU residents after Brexit. That is what we have. Many posters at the time said it would lead to more immigration. They were shouted down by Brexit supporters.
I am sorry if you didn't know what you were voting for. But this outcome was made clear at the time.

Preach. Great post.

Isn’t there a call for Kent police to state why no arrests were made, when arrests were made in similar circumstances when Just Stop Oil disrupted traffic?

I am all for peaceful protests but I am against traffic disruption because that’s putting peoples lives at risks and making the poorest in society suffer the most.

If they were late for work they would have had their salary docked, if they were late to pick up their children from childcare they’d have to pay double the rates etc.

If you're following the money on the asylum and immigration 'debate', the people profiting from it are people like Nigel Farage. His income depends heavily on attention: broadcasting, social media, speaking engagements, journalism and paid promotional work. Being an MP is a side hustle - he's earned about £2 million on top of his MP’s salary since the 2024 election by May 2026. Anti-immigration rhetoric is exceptionally effective at generating that attention because it produces fear, anger, argument and constant coverage. Every controversy creates clips, interviews, social engagement and invitations to speak, while also strengthening his political brand as the man prepared to say what others supposedly will not.

That creates a clear financial incentive structure: the more polarising and culturally dominant Farage becomes, the more valuable he becomes as a brand. He got paid £685,500 to advertise one gold bullion company, and his ability to command sums like that rests substantially on having a huge, highly engaged public audience.

Kent Police Assistant Chief Constable Nigel Brookes says in a statement: "It is important we distinguish between conduct we find objectionable and disruptive, and conduct which constitutes a criminal offence."
He says the only offence police are currently investigating was damage to a road.
He adds: "We will examine the intelligence process, but it is important to note that we do not as a matter of course monitor peaceful protesters, and their political viewpoints are not taken into consideration."
The police say they are disappointed there was so much disruption in the town, but insist they had engaged with those causing it to bring the demonstration to an end by lunchtime.

I mean the thread was created at 7am - is one required to abandon their whole day to sit and respond to comments all day 😂?? people have things to to and lives out side of here ….

this comment would make sense on an AMA , but but not really an aibu

@Contain4 actually I don't think people understood that at all - in fact they believed the opposite: that it would give the UK more control over their borders because people from the EU would no longer be able to come and go, work, live etc easily, when the effect is that we have as much migration as ever, but its from outside the EU. Plus the EU no longer have a vested interest in preventing UK bound illegal migration because if they do end up in the UK, it is no longer an EU problem or coming out of their purse. We are having to do deals and pay France for their cooperation.

Sadly, I think that many, many British voters had no understanding at all about the benefits and costs of EU membership at all. In fact many of them don’t even understand the UK political or legislative process - a damning indictment of our education system really.

And many political parties - and the media - fed and exploited this ignorance.

The term “far right” has lost much of its power since it began to be weaponised against any woman who believes in women only spaces or sports or meetings etc. Language is notoriously adaptive, with the result that loads of people now shrug off “far right” because if freedom of belief or expression is far right, ok then.

It means that the term is now very loose - there is little similarity between believing men should not punch women in the face as an Olympic sport and several other very ugly beliefs that actually are what I would recognise from Times Gone By as far right.

I would file not liking Bauhaus as similar.

AfD are indeed scary af; they really don’t want to support Ukraine which is very bad news imo.

Yes !!

I agree with @CouldICopeWithAnotherPuppy . If, by raising worries based on actual lived experience, people are insulted as being racist, far right, thick etc they will move towards the likes of Reform out of desperation.

If Reform are voted into power next time it will be due in no small part to many people being shut down as racists instead of their experiences being listened to rationally instead of insulted into shutting up.

Ha. Can you imagine if Farage and his mob got in. Pretty soon there'd be no freedom of speech for anyone except him and his cronies.

Nothing to do with who arrives. We can make the rules stricter for arrivals as long as it's fair on those who are already here. Like I said, one set of rights for all residents and only judge people on what they do. It's hardly revolutionary; it's been a foundation of the rule of law.

Like the scooter gangs in London?

Some people do good because they have empathy and dont want people to suffer. I think that is a very healthy way to live your life. It's got nothing to do with wanting to be seen to be doing good just to get brownie points. What a cynical attitude you have. You're a sad soul.

@Lemonraider, please clarify what exactly your problem is with my dd, who has a foreign-born parent?

As a law-abiding young woman who volunteers in her local community and is currently training to be a doctor, what harm can you possibly feel she is doing to you? Is it merely that the colour of her skin offends you?

Do you realise how deeply hurtful your comments are to innocent British citizens who have done nothing wrong? Do you care?

@JasmineMac stop oil protestors have been jailed for stopping and disrupting traffic. Why do you think there has been two tier policing and the exclusively men dressed in black with balaclavas have not been arrested for stopping traffic?

Oh right, once here. It’s not really related to who to let in.

Yes exactly like the gangs in London trying to intimidate people.

Are you saying that you think the scooter gangs in London are ok?

Even Farage (one of the biggest idiots in the country) has openly opposed the protestors wearing the face masks.

People usually at least respond with a few comments. Not post and then disappear.

Is it because these men are white that they were not arrested?

You may have a trans-free society under an AfD regime - it sounds like you aspire to such a thing- but you would lose all your rights as a woman. Your sole purpose in their eyes is breeder and that's it.

And to those who argue the AfD is not the direct heir to the NSDAP, you are so naive! Either naive or gaslighting everyone else. See this poster for yourself. The party was fined for it. https://eurojewcong.org/news/communities-news/germany/afd-politician-fined-over-election-poster-resembling-nazi-salute/

Well, it's relative.
I presume the threshold for conspiracy to cause a public nuisance wasn't met.

They stopped traffic for a long while. One woman interviewed going on holiday gave up and went home because she missed her ferry. Another man was very late for work. Do you think all those people affected don't matter?

Do you get frightened by all face coverings and disruptions? There's been quite a few for the last 3 years. There's been images shown on this thread, in case you missed them.

@LuckyHazelFox yes I find a large group of all men dressed in black and with face coverings intimidating. Wouldn't you?
Doubly so when they refuse to talk to local people to explain who they are, and have no leaflets or banners to explain who they are.

You quoted my comment but ignored my question. So I assume you don't think the local people made very late for work or who missed their holiday ferry matter?