Rise of far right

[Sillyme1]

Any one else worried about the rise of the far right in Europe. Churchill once said ‘those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it’. Obviously social conditions are different from the 1930s, but there are similarities such as using immigrants as scapegoats (not Jews this time). Things can so easily escalate and I admit to being worried

She hasn't mentioned melanin. Skin colour as method of ethnicity counting in Britain was introduced by immigrants for immigrants. Every single public sector organisation in Britain has mandatory ethnicity/skin colour reporting and monitoring. We have been forced to declare our skin colour for decades now in most interactions with employers and public services

They "keep mentioning" it. Do you ever ask them "Why does it matter?"

What purposes? What do I have to gain?

Expanding on this is pointless here as people on these forums are incapable of actually looking at things properly.

Ricky Gervais is a rich liberal, but even he takes major issue with this problem.

I suggest that those who care look up the relevant data, such as fiscal statistics and see that this path we are going down is (once the newcomers have learnt that their sexual urges don’t entitle them to grab people off the streets) that the cultures we are importing are not going to contribute to the countries finances, but will be a drain.

The stats are available, and we are not an oil rich country who wants to be benevolent to those in need. If you come here, you must earn your keep. Pay taxes, put in more than you take out.

People have to prove all sorts to bring their legal spouse over to ensure we are not inheriting burdens, but people who come over here illegally can bring 17 family members to be forever subsidised by the state. It’s utter madness.

Saying "twit"?

I'm worried, but I'm equally worried by what it is a symptom of. People feeling that their lives have taken a turn for the worse, that they're not listening to, that they don't matter, that they're working harder and getting poorer, and none of the promises of how the digital revolution would change all our lives for the better has been kept. I am worried by the way politicians on the make and other elites exploit the anger and distress of the masses and use it like a weapon to turn on their preferred targets (anyone but themselves)

I thought the amusing part was about us all eagerly waiting for the left leaning posters to clock on after work. How do we manage in their absence?

Loud single black men.

Just when you thought it couldn't sink any lower, it suddenly does.

Excuse me...

normalise for socio-economic factors??! We're talking about rape and sexual assaults. I don't give a flying f* about someone's socio-economic status, it's irrelevant.

Im a life time Labour voter , white British 60, well off, lived in very mixed areas of London all my adult life. Im so annoyed with the last Tory government for not addressing immigration in any meaningful way and Im especially annoyed with the current Labour government for its ineffective stance. From a cabinet stuffed full of people with Oxbridge History degrees. This government and the last one have handed this issue to the right. Currently the UK voters rank immigration as the single most important issue. This may well translate into a massive vote for Reform and even Restore at the next General Election.
I dont understand why people educated in modern history are so scared to engage with the people of this country on this issue. Its not as if governments havent done so in the past, even Labour governments have.
And its not racist to engage with the single issue voters rank as the most important. Honestly I wonder about the people in charge of this country. And the critical thinking skills of people labelling the majority of voters as racist. How does that help in any way?

How am I looking for one view when I’ve regularly asked for other people’s views?

Almost every post I’ve written I’ve said how important it is to discuss this topic.

I have literally asked you your view about why you didn’t attend the protests at least 3 times but you refuse to answer.

You only want to speak but not listen.

Nothing will ever change with an attitude like that.

A wise man’s mind can be changed.
A fools mind cannot.
One listens and tries to understand, the other doesn’t.

Really? You mean there were hundreds of thousands of Black people risking life and limb and paying huge sums of money to get into the USA during that time? I did not know about that.

Yep but oh we're <checks notes> 'sahp, disabled, no friends or hobbies' etc etc right wingers during the day lefties come out later a rather odd pp has suggested.

We don't want unvetted, undocumented men entering the country illegally in their hundreds!! It is clearly not 'right wing' to state this.

I actually have began to ponder is our govt is being blackmailed somehow into taking them.

Obviously your mum is trying to do the same ie figure out why on earth any govt would allow violent, unskilled people into an already overpopulated, failing country.

Or are they just stupid, soft and / or don't care. It is bewildering.

She fantasised about telling black people to fuck off.

I think it is naive to think there were never problems caused by Jewish people, pressure on space and employment are the same no matter what the religion of incommers,I live near Whitechapel which used to be a very predominantly Jewish neighbourhood, there is plenty of evidence of friction , and violence between people at this time, it is a question of numbers not who they are.
Not vetting the incommers is entirely the fault of successive governments who cut back the Home Office to the bone- so the checks are simply not done because there is no one to do them- ultimately all the people who would rather have cuts than more taxation are responsible for this.

Why is skin tone relevant in the census?

Again, her words, her experience. You don't know the Nationality of a group you find intimidating. She's made a point that is shared across the Country and tried to explain why she has moved to this position. We should be looking at why that shift has happened to millions of people and not trying to close it down with labels or over analyse how it was written. That's why people are increasingly reluctant to try and explain and why they increasingly turn to leadership they feel might understand them. Do you think that poster will post again like that. No, she'll become another supporter of the 'far right' because nobody is even trying to understand what she feels everyday living in her community.
That post was a reasonable attempt at explaining what is going on, but it got the usual response.
Time to consider that the usual response hasn't worked and maybe try something else.

These men did……hundreds of them.

No women though… 🤔

And I’m not sure why you’re getting offended. If my post wasn’t about your situation, then why be so offended?

And I didn’t say day time posters don’t have jobs or friends.
Half the posters on here are SAHPs, disabled or work shifts - so why would I insult them when they probably have a harder life than most?

I said that particular posters (that everyone is well aware of) obviously fit into this category.

Like when the kids go back to school, certain threads get different opinions at different times of the day.

I don’t know why acknowledging that trend is offensive to you.
I wonder if it would be as offensive if I said about the kids going back to school and the change in the amount that of troll threads or did I hit a nerve 🤔

You may be unusual though. For the main part, well off, educated people tend to be of the mindset of borders = bad, immigration = good, people objecting to too much immigration = racist bigots.

Nothing will budge them from that position.

More gaslighting.

‘Half the posters on here are SAHPs, disabled or work shifts’

’I said that particular posters (that everyone is well aware of) obviously fit into this category.’

The two lines are bizarre. No it’s not known who fits into each category.

We are an island with water all around us. It is hard to have hard borders in the middle of the sea. Nevertheless, the numbers of small boats gone by 40% over 2 years. There is no conspiracy, no ‘invasion’, no blackmail.

Don't try and backtrack on what you said. Why are you also hung up on women attending the protest or not? Oh yes, you're trying to make it about feeling safe aren't you. More presumption.

She mentions melanin multiple times in her reference to Black and Brown men.

(Also to claim skin colour as a way of referring to people was introduced to Britain by immigrants as a means of counting people is so laughable.)

I see lots of liberals being interviewed on camera recently saying that’s they’d happily take a migrant in until one pops round the corner with his worldly goods and all of a sudden their house is too small / flooded etc. amazing viewing.

How exactly is having a foreign born parent intrinsically a bad thing? People must be judged on their actions and their character, not their origins. Saying 'treating a native population like this is inhumane' absolutely reeks of xenophobia. Who forces British-born people to have less children? Not the immigrants who are having kids. If you want more babies in this country, your anger should be directed at the lack of adequate support for childcare.