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Rise of far right

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Sillyme1 · Today 07:00

Any one else worried about the rise of the far right in Europe. Churchill once said ‘those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it’. Obviously social conditions are different from the 1930s, but there are similarities such as using immigrants as scapegoats (not Jews this time). Things can so easily escalate and I admit to being worried

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EasternStandard · Today 11:14

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:12

Flexible working/retired/lonely/GAD etc - none of it is anybody else's business. I said on another thread it's always the left who resort to personal attacks when threads aren't going their way.

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Yep. If there’s a point just make it, the usual insults are tedious.

echt · Today 11:14

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:12

Flexible working/retired/lonely/GAD etc - none of it is anybody else's business. I said on another thread it's always the left who resort to personal attacks when threads aren't going their way.

Edited

No-one has been personally attacked. Report it if you think so.

panolar · Today 11:14

5128gap · Today 09:11

Opposite way round. There's a concerted effort to pass off what was once considered far right extremism as the 'moderate views of ordinary concerned citizens'. Every time the far right rears it's head people pop up to pretend that they and ordinary people concerned about immigration are one and the same. Calling them 'the voice of the people' and other nonsense to frame them as mainstream.
The far right have taken issues of mainstream concern such as immigration and single sex spaces and used them as a trojan horse to gain a voice where once they'd have been unwelcome.

Many people/voters do not analyse things to that granular degree.

It is a fact that the FR have hoovered up discontented and angry voters who see current governments ignoring their (to them) fears about standards of living which encompasses policy in many areas including non visa immigration.

Non right wing governments/parties should be worried, and should acknowledge their failures.

I hope it is a wake up call for parties/governments to actually listen to people now and do right by them, not just regarding non visa immigration, but general QOL. It can be done and it should be.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 11:15

Blondiebeachbabe · Today 10:49

Even if it was 900 a week, that's 47000 a year, which is the population of Brentwood. No one in their right mind could think that's sustainable. Add to that the fact that these are all men from different cultures, and you have a massive problem.

Since 2018 (when we started recording boat arrivals), 209,000 people (mainly men) have arrived illegally on small boats.

To give context, the following places in England each have a population of around 209,000 :

Slough

Milton Keynes

Rochdale

High Wycombe

Who the fuck thinks this is a good idea for Britain?

And will people stop pretending that we can integrate with these men? They are not engineers and doctors who respect women. Wake up.

I agree.
They don't exactly make themselves welcome, do they ?
Latest 'enrichment' -
https://www.hampshire.police.uk/news/hampshire/news/news/2026/september/man-charged-with-offences-including-rape-and-stalking-in-portsmouth/

Nuneaton (February 2026): Ahmad Mulakhil, a 23-year-old Afghan asylum seeker who arrived in the UK via a small boat in March 2025, was found guilty at Warwick Crown Court of abducting and raping a 12-year-old girl in July 2025. The case prompted widespread local protests and led to updates in official guidance regarding the disclosure of nationality and immigration status upon arrest.
Brighton Beach (April 2026): Three asylum seekers who arrived via small boats—Karin Al-Danasurt (20), Ibrahim Alshafe (25), and Abdulla Ahmadi (26)—were sentenced to a combined total of over 60 years in prison. They were convicted of a "predatory and callous" gang rape of an incapacitated lone woman on Brighton beach.
Tamworth (January 2026): Mehmet O., a 27-year-old Turkish Kurdish asylum seeker who arrived via a small boat, was sentenced to seven years in prison at Stafford Crown Court for raping an 18-year-old girl in a park.
Leamington Spa (December 2025): Two 17-year-old Afghan asylum seekers, Jan Jahanzeb and Israr Niazal, were sentenced to youth detention terms of 10 years and eight months, and nine years and 10 months respectively, for the rape of a 15-year-old girl in a parkland area. The judge lifted standard reporting restrictions to name the defendants, citing that a lack of information "stokes public anger".

In response to these incidents and broader societal integration challenges, the Home Office published a new nine-page guidance booklet and poster campaign for newly arrived asylum seekers.
The official documents explicitly state that rape, sexual harassment, domestic abuse, and forced sexual contact are illegal in the UK, outlining UK laws regarding sexual consent, gender equality, and acceptable public behavior. The government reiterated that any foreign nationals or asylum seekers who break UK law will face deportation and removal from the country.

^ I'll believe that last sentence when I see it actioned.

Datgal · Today 11:15

Mirsine · Today 10:50

100%! It’s terrifying and equally depressing.

I have a family member who is mixed race half English and half Pakistani. He was born here. Has a very good job in education, paid tax all his working life and was told to “fuck off back to where you came from you P#KI cunt you’re not welcome here” as he walked past 2 “concerned fathers” draped in England flags, cans in hand, at a “protest” in our town centre.

Exactly, where does all this nonsense end? Terrifying indeed.

5MinuteArgument · Today 11:15

HelenaWaiting · Today 11:01

Britain is a very centrist and tolerant country but also has a strong sense of fairness.

I'm not sure that view would be shared by immigrants, people of ethnic minorities or disabled people.

And yet thousands of people clamour to come here every year, risking life and limb. Don't they know how awful Britain is?

Maybe the government should project onto the white cliffs of Dover: 'Britain is racist and awful - stay away.'

HotGrapefruit · Today 11:16

TotaleclipseinFrance · Today 11:13

What about them?
Even IF they are thugs, which I doubt - which seems to be what you are implying - we don't need any more entering the country do we? We've got enough of our to deal with.

As for the women and children? Well they don't pose a threat. I'll say that.

My anxieties are not fuelled by Christian values at all as I'm an atheist.
Or indeed anything else your passive aggressive words suggest.

More about not having hordes of uncivilised men who it has to be explained to that rape isn't their right.
Explained to them. Ffs.

F*ing hell. I am continually amazed by women who advocate for these men to be allowed in.
It shouldn't surprise me but it does.

Haven't we got enough of our own bad men -to deal with without importing more?

What about all the NHS staff we recruit from similar countries, where we have to tell them similar things about consent, FGM, LGBT people etc.? Should we get rid of them too?

Newbutoldfather · Today 11:16

@echt ,

‘That's what you think about you, but it's not the definition of a native population.’

Correct, that is what I think. That’s kind of the whole point of this site.

There isn’t such a thing as ‘the definition’ to suit all contexts. However, I would be curious as to how you would define it.

I don’t actually have a problem with the cricket test used metaphorically and not literally. If a country has no set of shared references or values, I don’t think it will ever succeed as a country.

Of course, it succeeds for the metropolitan elite, as they have shared international values. I mean who cares if you know who is on the plinth in Trafalgar Square or about the premier league if you know about what is best to order at Nobu, can talk knowledgeably about international politics and finance, and travel first class and stay in Four Seasons resorts?! That is your commonality then and it works in Hong Kong, Singapore, New York etc, as well as London. You are a ‘citizen of everywhere’z

However, that is not what the vast majority of the population can ever be or aspire to. You look at every successful country over decades (or even centuries) and they have national cultural references that they hold dear.

It is a very new (mainly British) left wing elite thing to ridicule people who take pride in being members of their own nation-patriots.

Daygloboo · Today 11:16

BrandiedAromatics · Today 11:08

Yes, and leading the complaining that the Labour candidate in Holborn is Somali British? It is very bizarre ......

ETA I think Yusuf is of Sri Lankan heritage via his parents.

Edited

🤣 via his parents ? . Unless I was completely useless at biology at school, it's hard to think he'd be of Sri Lankan heritage via anybody else.

Jollygreygiantess · Today 11:17

HelenaWaiting · Today 11:01

Britain is a very centrist and tolerant country but also has a strong sense of fairness.

I'm not sure that view would be shared by immigrants, people of ethnic minorities or disabled people.

Or those people living next to a migrant hotel.

deuxbleublanc · Today 11:18

Sillyme1 · Today 07:00

Any one else worried about the rise of the far right in Europe. Churchill once said ‘those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it’. Obviously social conditions are different from the 1930s, but there are similarities such as using immigrants as scapegoats (not Jews this time). Things can so easily escalate and I admit to being worried

I admit to being worried

What are you worried about? Can you be more specific?

Obviously social conditions are different from the 1930s, but there are similarities such as using immigrants as scapegoats (not Jews this time).
I am confused by this, what do you mean? How are immigrants being used as scapegoats exactly? Could you give some concrete examples?

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:19

echt · Today 11:14

No-one has been personally attacked. Report it if you think so.

Making derogatory and presumptive remarks about posters' private circumstances is most certainly personally attacking them. They don't have to be named for that to be the case.

Lemonraider · Today 11:19

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 10:54

EXACTLY!!!

No conception that the vast majority of society deems their unemployed, scrounging carcasses as unwanted, rather than the productive member of society who just happens to be brown skinned.

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How does anyone "just happen" to be brown? His skin colour is derived from his parents, it didn't "just happen".

ClaredeBear · Today 11:20

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Today 07:15

Anyone not worried by this is probably part of the problem.

Very true.

EasternStandard · Today 11:20

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:19

Making derogatory and presumptive remarks about posters' private circumstances is most certainly personally attacking them. They don't have to be named for that to be the case.

It’s so silly though. And yes more likely the left resorting to it.

toastycold · Today 11:20

I’m worried about it but also not surprised. As @HermioneWeasley has said successive weak PMs have failed to make difficult decisions. The end result will be anarchy.

5MinuteArgument · Today 11:21

Jollygreygiantess · Today 11:15

I agree.
They don't exactly make themselves welcome, do they ?
Latest 'enrichment' -
https://www.hampshire.police.uk/news/hampshire/news/news/2026/september/man-charged-with-offences-including-rape-and-stalking-in-portsmouth/

Nuneaton (February 2026): Ahmad Mulakhil, a 23-year-old Afghan asylum seeker who arrived in the UK via a small boat in March 2025, was found guilty at Warwick Crown Court of abducting and raping a 12-year-old girl in July 2025. The case prompted widespread local protests and led to updates in official guidance regarding the disclosure of nationality and immigration status upon arrest.
Brighton Beach (April 2026): Three asylum seekers who arrived via small boats—Karin Al-Danasurt (20), Ibrahim Alshafe (25), and Abdulla Ahmadi (26)—were sentenced to a combined total of over 60 years in prison. They were convicted of a "predatory and callous" gang rape of an incapacitated lone woman on Brighton beach.
Tamworth (January 2026): Mehmet O., a 27-year-old Turkish Kurdish asylum seeker who arrived via a small boat, was sentenced to seven years in prison at Stafford Crown Court for raping an 18-year-old girl in a park.
Leamington Spa (December 2025): Two 17-year-old Afghan asylum seekers, Jan Jahanzeb and Israr Niazal, were sentenced to youth detention terms of 10 years and eight months, and nine years and 10 months respectively, for the rape of a 15-year-old girl in a parkland area. The judge lifted standard reporting restrictions to name the defendants, citing that a lack of information "stokes public anger".

In response to these incidents and broader societal integration challenges, the Home Office published a new nine-page guidance booklet and poster campaign for newly arrived asylum seekers.
The official documents explicitly state that rape, sexual harassment, domestic abuse, and forced sexual contact are illegal in the UK, outlining UK laws regarding sexual consent, gender equality, and acceptable public behavior. The government reiterated that any foreign nationals or asylum seekers who break UK law will face deportation and removal from the country.

^ I'll believe that last sentence when I see it actioned.

Yes, it's tragic. Yet the pro-migration lobby will argue: we've already got plenty of rapists, murderers and criminals, so let's import some more.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 11:21

EasternStandard · Today 11:20

It’s so silly though. And yes more likely the left resorting to it.

That and gaslighting.

Worrall20 · Today 11:22

FrootyCider · Today 10:58

I live and work in area of a major city which would cause Tommy-Ten-Names-Who-Is-Actually-An-Illegal-Immigrant-Himself to develop a Hernia. My colleagues come from all over the world. The service users come from all over the world, and came over in all sorts of different ways. Why aren't I scared? Why don't I live in fear? If they were right, I ought to be running from machete wielding rapists every day. Instead we have a thriving high street, beautiful parks, lots of great options for food, and yes, there are still plenty of British people.

It's in stark contrast to the town centre in my home town which is overwhelmingly white, completely dead and full of (white) crackheads.

Funnily enough, Reform and Restore have a stranglehold on my hometown. It tends to be areas which do not have a major migrant population which these parties target - it's easier to get people riled up about people they don't know. Easier to create a boogeyman out of strangers.

Generational poverty and lack of opportunity are a major issue in small towns and cities across the UK. Industry has left, people don't go to the shops as much any more, and 'the others' are always the scapegoat. Take the migrants out of Clacton for example, and their issues wouldn't change, because it's about 2% of the population.

I'd rather have 100 of my migrants neighbours (and friends) than one of Frog Face's ilk living next to me. I do hope that communities that need support and investment feel heard and get what they need, whatever their make up.

Whilst it is lovely that you your major city lives in harmony. My major city is a no go for lone women. Having gone around 9am to grab a coffee and walk round the shops it is full of men who follow you round and are intimidating. They do not take no for an answer. I also do not like men in women’s toilets. I am what I would call a centralist so no way would I class my self as far right.

Lemonraider · Today 11:22

echt · Today 10:55

That's what you think about you, but it's not the definition of a native population.

It smacks of Norman Tebbit's Cricket Test, and not I believe, what @Lemonraider meant either, though they were unable to engage with evidence and agreements.

Edited

I parodied your assertion that natives don't exist in Britain.

Blondiebeachbabe · Today 11:23

Jollygreygiantess · Today 11:15

I agree.
They don't exactly make themselves welcome, do they ?
Latest 'enrichment' -
https://www.hampshire.police.uk/news/hampshire/news/news/2026/september/man-charged-with-offences-including-rape-and-stalking-in-portsmouth/

Nuneaton (February 2026): Ahmad Mulakhil, a 23-year-old Afghan asylum seeker who arrived in the UK via a small boat in March 2025, was found guilty at Warwick Crown Court of abducting and raping a 12-year-old girl in July 2025. The case prompted widespread local protests and led to updates in official guidance regarding the disclosure of nationality and immigration status upon arrest.
Brighton Beach (April 2026): Three asylum seekers who arrived via small boats—Karin Al-Danasurt (20), Ibrahim Alshafe (25), and Abdulla Ahmadi (26)—were sentenced to a combined total of over 60 years in prison. They were convicted of a "predatory and callous" gang rape of an incapacitated lone woman on Brighton beach.
Tamworth (January 2026): Mehmet O., a 27-year-old Turkish Kurdish asylum seeker who arrived via a small boat, was sentenced to seven years in prison at Stafford Crown Court for raping an 18-year-old girl in a park.
Leamington Spa (December 2025): Two 17-year-old Afghan asylum seekers, Jan Jahanzeb and Israr Niazal, were sentenced to youth detention terms of 10 years and eight months, and nine years and 10 months respectively, for the rape of a 15-year-old girl in a parkland area. The judge lifted standard reporting restrictions to name the defendants, citing that a lack of information "stokes public anger".

In response to these incidents and broader societal integration challenges, the Home Office published a new nine-page guidance booklet and poster campaign for newly arrived asylum seekers.
The official documents explicitly state that rape, sexual harassment, domestic abuse, and forced sexual contact are illegal in the UK, outlining UK laws regarding sexual consent, gender equality, and acceptable public behavior. The government reiterated that any foreign nationals or asylum seekers who break UK law will face deportation and removal from the country.

^ I'll believe that last sentence when I see it actioned.

Hear Hear 👏

5128gap · Today 11:23

panolar · Today 11:14

Many people/voters do not analyse things to that granular degree.

It is a fact that the FR have hoovered up discontented and angry voters who see current governments ignoring their (to them) fears about standards of living which encompasses policy in many areas including non visa immigration.

Non right wing governments/parties should be worried, and should acknowledge their failures.

I hope it is a wake up call for parties/governments to actually listen to people now and do right by them, not just regarding non visa immigration, but general QOL. It can be done and it should be.

The government is worried. Starmer described the far right as 'a very real threat' and Burnham has said many times over he feels successive governments have failed people.

Contain4 · Today 11:23

EasternStandard · Today 11:08

Ik it may be alien to you but some people work flexibly. Plus you’re posting rn so it must apply to you too.

We all know which posters I’m talking about.

There are many posters who work various shifts, don’t work due to disabilities or being SAHPs etc but we all know which posters I mean.

If you’re able have flexible working, how come you weren’t part of the protest over the weekend?

moonraker0 · Today 11:24

There’s a thread in politics titled Afghan women erased from public life. There’s a link with an article, read it and tell me what these people coming in on small boats will bring to our country given that most of them come from the same culture. It’s not far right to not want this for the country you live in.

Daygloboo · Today 11:24

Lemonraider · Today 10:38

The usual ridiculous answer.

Why is that a ridiculous answer. It's true. Read your history books you twit.