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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 30/08/2026 10:42

Anibanani · 30/08/2026 10:39

But there are murderers among these men. We know that. Burning two women to death and stabbing another is not the action of peaceful, law-abiding men. In my opinion, these men should not be free to enter our society given that knowledge. They should be held in custody and returned to their countries of origin unless the perpetrators can be identified through investigation. And, yes, that will be punishing innocent people too but in the interests of our safety, that is an unfortunate consequence to ensure the murderers don’t freely enter our society.

How can they be put in a prison if they’re not allowed to enter the country? Is it a prison built in the sea? Is the idea to imprison everyone without a court case / trial in this sea prison?

Anibanani · 30/08/2026 10:43

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 30/08/2026 10:34

When you say “why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place” can you describe your solution? Should they be shot on sight in the sea, so they’re not allowed to come on shore? A giant sea wall built to prevent boats coming ashore?

When they come ashore they’re immediately documented and processed so your title doesn’t make sense.

They’re given somewhere to stay and a minimal stipend, but Reform appear to want to deny them this which would ironically leave them roaming the uk, with no funds, meaning they’d be sleeping on the streets and have to steal food to stay alive.

Numbers have massively dropped over the last year so the current government policy appears to be working, but I’d love to hear your ideas to improve on this.

When we know for a fact that there are murderers of women on the boat, then no, they should not be allowed into the country and given freedom. They should all be held until the perpetrators can be identified and if they cannot be identified, we should continue to hold them in custody and returned them all. Are you content to have murderers enter Britain?

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 10:45

Your anger needs to be directed at the traffickers who sell these people a dream and make it seem that they can come here and set up a life for their families to safely come over.

Multiple people die on these journeys every time.
Even those who survive are usually severely dehydrated and have infections.
Women and children are less likely to do these journeys because they are the ones most likely to die.

I don’t think anyone should go to any country undocumented and we cannot take in millions of immigrants now we have left the EU and less people can emigrate.

However, it’s not the desperate people risking their lives on boats to provide for their women and children back home that I feel any anger towards.

We cremate bodies in this country every day so I don’t get the faux concern when you’re obviously not that upset about it.

Youaregoing · 30/08/2026 10:46

LoveItaly · 30/08/2026 10:03

Don’t be so ridiculous. Fortunately the days of the left shutting down any unease and concern about the huge numbers of people, particularly men, who have no desire to integrate and whose cultures are incompatible with Western values are over.

Yes, yes, yes. You're merely a concerned citizen. Absolutely.

Youaregoing · 30/08/2026 10:48

moppety · 30/08/2026 10:01

This is exactly the narrative that has pushed so many Labour voters away (and Keir recognised it too late). You can’t have any kind of discussion around immigration, no matter how nuanced, without it being branded racism. It’s a way to shut down a conversation. Reminds me of the whole TERF and transphobia thing too. You can’t have a nuanced discussion about that either.

Of course we should be talking about young men from countries with appalling cultural attitudes to women’s and safety in particular coming over to the UK (or anywhere) and being free to move around our communities. It’s foolish not to recognise that there will be issues integrating single young men from places where violence (especially sexual violence) against women is commonplace and culturally acceptable in a way it isn’t here, no matter how much people like to claim that being a woman in Britain is just as bad as being a woman in Afghanistan or Eritrea or Somalia.

That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t accept them, of course we have a duty to accept asylum seekers, but we can’t shut our eyes and put our fingers in our ears about some of the more valid concerns.

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The OP has not started a nuanced discussion. The veil of "deep concern" is just too transparent.

Fluffyholeysocks · 30/08/2026 10:49

backformoreofthesame · 30/08/2026 10:01

Illogical

people on the boats get checked and documented as they come in - yet somehow you link this to unknown men roaming free ?

to smash the gangs remove the demand and start paying welfare to all poor people all around the world. Make sure everyone worldwide has food, healthcare and safety and opportunities for betterment

whilst one man is in abject poverty and another living a life of riches based on place of birth you will always have this. If you can’t see this - if you can’t see how this has played out time and again since Neolithic times i pity you

How do these people get 'checked' as they come in? If they claim to come from Eritrea or Sudan how is that 'checked' by UK BF? Do they have access to systems in those countries so we can 'check' they aren't rapists or murderers?

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 10:49

I misread and thought the bodies were burned after death.

They didn’t die, they were burned from the sun.

A man was killed by the others, which implies he was acting dangerously - probably due to delirium if they were all burned and dehydrated.

SoThatwasSummer · 30/08/2026 10:51

backformoreofthesame · 30/08/2026 10:01

Illogical

people on the boats get checked and documented as they come in - yet somehow you link this to unknown men roaming free ?

to smash the gangs remove the demand and start paying welfare to all poor people all around the world. Make sure everyone worldwide has food, healthcare and safety and opportunities for betterment

whilst one man is in abject poverty and another living a life of riches based on place of birth you will always have this. If you can’t see this - if you can’t see how this has played out time and again since Neolithic times i pity you

Recently a man who came on a boat was mentally unwell ,rejected by France and made it to us where he attacked a woman with a bottle

It's just that many people arriving don't get picked up and disappear like this fellow did and it's well known now that the IRG is running routes into the UK and Putin is washing their money.

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 10:52

@backformoreofthesame people on the boats get checked and documented as they come in - yet somehow you link this to unknown men roaming free ?

So how can they be "documented" when they throw their documents in the drink? They could pretend to be anyone.
And they do "roam fee" because they certainly aren't locked up.

PiMCA · 30/08/2026 10:52

Can we blame migrants for sunburn now?

It's strange, I've had many discussions about immigration and never once been branded a racist. Wonder why so many people think this is not possible anymore.

susiedaisy1912 · 30/08/2026 10:53

Yanbu to be concerned. A lot of people are and were sick of being branded racist the second we express any genuine concern. But you know what, I give up, just let everyone in to the uk, undocumented or otherwise, why bother to be worried about it, the left aren’t, the more the merrier as far as they are concerned.

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:54

There amount of naivety of people is astounding! They aren’t checked as no one knows who they are. They bin documents like passports as they don’t want to go back.

PurpleCarpets · 30/08/2026 10:59

Unreasonable for taking news from the Daily Express (especially on immigration) and writing like it.

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:03

PurpleCarpets · 30/08/2026 10:59

Unreasonable for taking news from the Daily Express (especially on immigration) and writing like it.

So what is it about the Daily Express' reporting that is untrue ?

Burningbud1981 · 30/08/2026 11:04

helpfulperson · 30/08/2026 10:25

You do know the numbers have dropped significantly over the last few years don't you?

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Youaregoing · 30/08/2026 11:04

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:54

There amount of naivety of people is astounding! They aren’t checked as no one knows who they are. They bin documents like passports as they don’t want to go back.

Any evidence?

Burningbud1981 · 30/08/2026 11:05

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:27

It’s a bloody joke and they don’t even know the true numbers…. It’s very scary as British will be a minority at this rate….

44 million white British born people will become a minority?

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 11:06

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:03

So what is it about the Daily Express' reporting that is untrue ?

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Why don’t you link the same story from a different media outlet (not daily mail or the sun) and compare them.

smallglassbottle · 30/08/2026 11:07

helpfulperson · 30/08/2026 10:25

You do know the numbers have dropped significantly over the last few years don't you?

And yet the attacks continue.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:07

Smokeywater · 30/08/2026 09:48

Weak governments from Blair onwards

to add - will make me vote Restore or Reform regardless of the idiots running these parties - it's a last hope of someone doing something

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Agree about weak governments. Europe-wide, actually. I suppose it says something about many characters who go into politics.

Look at our most recently elected PM. He (Burnham) dumped Manchester to get an MP role then was put into the PM position by his own party. No one but about 70 people in Ashton in Makerfield (sp?) had any opinion. If that's the sort of people we have in power - is it any surprise they are all self serving atrocious decision makers. No thought for the well being of their 'electorate' (electorate not valid in the case of Burnham since no one in the general electorate actually had a say).

Reform or Restore will be disasterous too. We need the Conservatives back with Kemi in charge. Shame Cleverly has just resigned to go for London mayor in future but c'est la vie.

Kemi Badenoch understands very well the issue of some very different cultures and their negative impact on the UK. so hopefully she will stop this somehow. Unfortunately there's 3 more years of this. How many women and girls will be raped by asylum seekers and immigrants in that time? And that is the governments fault. I guess that's why they won't release the stats.

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Firetreev · 30/08/2026 11:09

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:27

It’s a bloody joke and they don’t even know the true numbers…. It’s very scary as British will be a minority at this rate….

If you believe this you're utterly delusional. Facts don't bear this out. Please get offf social media. The algorithms are designed to make you worried, angry, stressed. They feed you false information and have literally been designed to rage bait people because it keeps you coming back and watching/scrolling more. The only people it benefits is the tech oligarchs who keep getting richer and malign actors who want to spread hate and division.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:09

Cardhey · 30/08/2026 10:54

There amount of naivety of people is astounding! They aren’t checked as no one knows who they are. They bin documents like passports as they don’t want to go back.

Naivety or cognitive dissonance? Or stupidity? Or malice and certain motivations to pretend not to see the obvious? Who knows.

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 11:11

Firetreev · 30/08/2026 11:09

If you believe this you're utterly delusional. Facts don't bear this out. Please get offf social media. The algorithms are designed to make you worried, angry, stressed. They feed you false information and have literally been designed to rage bait people because it keeps you coming back and watching/scrolling more. The only people it benefits is the tech oligarchs who keep getting richer and malign actors who want to spread hate and division.

'The only people it benefits is the tech oligarchs who keep getting richer and malign actors who want to spread hate and division.'

No doubt this bit is true. But hopefully you will eventually come to understand that 2 things can be true at the same time.

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Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 11:12

helpfulperson · 30/08/2026 10:25

You do know the numbers have dropped significantly over the last few years don't you?

It depends what sort of 'immigration' you're talking about. The Tories made plans to restrict legal immigration while still in office. These are now taking effect.

August 2026 Updates: Recent adjustments under HC 259 updated rules on suitability, overstaying definitions, and digital border procedures.
Electronic Travel Authorisation (ETA): Non-visa visitors making short trips up to six months must obtain an ETA via GOV.UK before boarding transport to the UK.
Skilled Worker Salary Thresholds: Minimum salary requirements for sponsored skilled workers previously jumped significantly from £26,200 to £38,700.
Dependant Restrictions: Care workers and certain lower-qualification visa holders face strict bans or limits on bringing immediate family dependants.
Student Visa Controls: Higher education providers face rigorous penalties and sliding-scale bans if international student drop-out or asylum rates spike.

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