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AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK? PART 2

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CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 11:09

'Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK

UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.'

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

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Foreverautumnagain · 24/08/2026 17:00

I think this leaflet should be handed out at all schools, colleges, bars and clubs. If you think it's only those from other cultures who need to be reminded that 'no' means 'NO' then you're living in a blinkered, socially isolated, utopian world. 2 years ago 2 10 year old were 'upskirted' by a group of white teenage boys! 82% of grooming gangs are white, 52% of the men arrested during riots last year already had dv, paedophile or assault charges against them. Let's also not forget the charming young lads who raped a young girl under a bridge and filmed it and then escaped custodial sentences because the judge didn't want to blight their future!!! How can you turn a blind eye to the reality of the world attitude towards women generally as we see in the US and with the likes of Andrew Tate having loyal, brainwashed, misogynistic followers?

NullaEffugium · 24/08/2026 17:03

CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 13:26

They and the UAE have actually warned us about it. They can't believe how utterly stupid the west is being in accepting the worst of their societies without question. Not only that but housing them, paying them and giving them free medical care. At the expense of our own population.

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Source? Everything I read about Saudi Arabia is that they have been welcoming refugees from Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Eritrea, Lebanon, Ukraine and Palestine for decades. They are not signatories to the UN Refugee convention and so do not refugees separately. They are counted as regular foreign workers, except for very few that apply via the UNHCR offices.

CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 17:04

Foreverautumnagain · 24/08/2026 17:00

I think this leaflet should be handed out at all schools, colleges, bars and clubs. If you think it's only those from other cultures who need to be reminded that 'no' means 'NO' then you're living in a blinkered, socially isolated, utopian world. 2 years ago 2 10 year old were 'upskirted' by a group of white teenage boys! 82% of grooming gangs are white, 52% of the men arrested during riots last year already had dv, paedophile or assault charges against them. Let's also not forget the charming young lads who raped a young girl under a bridge and filmed it and then escaped custodial sentences because the judge didn't want to blight their future!!! How can you turn a blind eye to the reality of the world attitude towards women generally as we see in the US and with the likes of Andrew Tate having loyal, brainwashed, misogynistic followers?

Yep. They too will learn that they COULD be punished. And that really, it isn't such a big deal, and consequences aren't really a thing with sex crimes on women.

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LuckyHazelFox · 24/08/2026 17:06

Foreverautumnagain · 24/08/2026 17:00

I think this leaflet should be handed out at all schools, colleges, bars and clubs. If you think it's only those from other cultures who need to be reminded that 'no' means 'NO' then you're living in a blinkered, socially isolated, utopian world. 2 years ago 2 10 year old were 'upskirted' by a group of white teenage boys! 82% of grooming gangs are white, 52% of the men arrested during riots last year already had dv, paedophile or assault charges against them. Let's also not forget the charming young lads who raped a young girl under a bridge and filmed it and then escaped custodial sentences because the judge didn't want to blight their future!!! How can you turn a blind eye to the reality of the world attitude towards women generally as we see in the US and with the likes of Andrew Tate having loyal, brainwashed, misogynistic followers?

G.a.s.l.i.g.h.t.

Foreverautumnagain · 24/08/2026 17:07

LuckyHazelFox · 24/08/2026 17:06

G.a.s.l.i.g.h.t.

Try checking out these charmers then
https://www.facebook.com/share/19K3qG9kAB/

GunnelVallquist · 24/08/2026 17:07

5MinuteArgument · 24/08/2026 16:37

It's like being given a box of chocolates and being told 'only one of the chocolates is poisonous ... well, maybe two.'

What person in their right mind would eat the chocolates?

This is a great analogy.

LuckyHazelFox · 24/08/2026 17:08

Foreverautumnagain · 24/08/2026 17:07

Try checking out these charmers then
https://www.facebook.com/share/19K3qG9kAB/

Your point is? We know they exist. What's your next point?

GunnelVallquist · 24/08/2026 17:09

LuckyHazelFox · 24/08/2026 17:06

G.a.s.l.i.g.h.t.

On every single thread.

Every single time.

CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 17:09

NullaEffugium · 24/08/2026 17:03

Source? Everything I read about Saudi Arabia is that they have been welcoming refugees from Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Eritrea, Lebanon, Ukraine and Palestine for decades. They are not signatories to the UN Refugee convention and so do not refugees separately. They are counted as regular foreign workers, except for very few that apply via the UNHCR offices.

Sorry no written source. I lived there for a few years though. Refugees from Yemen? Sure sure, what you're reading is true (that last sentence might not be true)

I Did see lots of workers from other countries. So perhaps that's what was happening. Saudis rarely did the dogsbody stuff.

And btw - if anyone of those non foreign nationals puts a foot wrong, they aren't welcome any more.

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CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 17:13

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CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 17:13

Ignore the gaslighters, people!

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GunnelVallquist · 24/08/2026 17:15

Isn’t the first duty of any government to keep its citizens safe?

What is happening all over Europe? (Poland and Hungary excluded)

Foreverautumnagain · 24/08/2026 17:16

LuckyHazelFox · 24/08/2026 17:08

Your point is? We know they exist. What's your next point?

Why is there only an outcry when the perpetrator is an asylum seeker or a refugee? The statistics don't support the level of response particularly in the media. If we want our girls to feel safe we need to educate all men. As I said, make that message widespread. The issue is far wider than colour or foreign culture.

Nuthatch26 · 24/08/2026 17:17

Foreverautumnagain · 24/08/2026 17:00

I think this leaflet should be handed out at all schools, colleges, bars and clubs. If you think it's only those from other cultures who need to be reminded that 'no' means 'NO' then you're living in a blinkered, socially isolated, utopian world. 2 years ago 2 10 year old were 'upskirted' by a group of white teenage boys! 82% of grooming gangs are white, 52% of the men arrested during riots last year already had dv, paedophile or assault charges against them. Let's also not forget the charming young lads who raped a young girl under a bridge and filmed it and then escaped custodial sentences because the judge didn't want to blight their future!!! How can you turn a blind eye to the reality of the world attitude towards women generally as we see in the US and with the likes of Andrew Tate having loyal, brainwashed, misogynistic followers?

Are you saying that white men rape too? Wow, I didn't know that. Thank you for educating us. You've completely changed my opinion. 🙄

NullaEffugium · 24/08/2026 17:18

It is all about racism and ignorance. On thread 1, I mentioned that per capita stats of populations in the thousands cannot be accurately directly compared to per capita stats of populations in the millions. So the claim that nationalities are more likely to be rapists is certainly unproven and not likely to be true.

The fact we hand out leaflets to incoming refugees that match what we teach our children about consent and illegal sexual behaviours in sex education isn’t a reaction to them being likely to sexually assault any more than we think our children will.

Yes it is different for some where they come from, but I am sick of the slagging off about Afghans. The regime ruling in Afghanistan is not representative of Afghan culture. When ISIS fell, thousands of their commanders fled Iraq to Afghanistan, joined the Taliban and then proceeded to purge and radicalise the Taliban into ISIS 2.0 and take over Afghanistan. They succeeded and no one cares because if we admitted that the leaders of the Taliban are all former ISIS we’d not be able to claim victory over ISIS.

The Afghans fleeing Afghanistan are fleeing precisely because they are under the thumb of ISIS 2.0.

Not that the Taliban were that nice to begin with towards women, but they were not as extreme years ago and were even considered moderate enough to be our allies fighting against Al-Qaeda and ISIS.

GunnelVallquist · 24/08/2026 17:18

Not going to engage, not going to engage…

NullaEffugium · 24/08/2026 17:21

CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 17:09

Sorry no written source. I lived there for a few years though. Refugees from Yemen? Sure sure, what you're reading is true (that last sentence might not be true)

I Did see lots of workers from other countries. So perhaps that's what was happening. Saudis rarely did the dogsbody stuff.

And btw - if anyone of those non foreign nationals puts a foot wrong, they aren't welcome any more.

So no official warning from their government to ours then? No poll? No academic research? No investigative journalism?

You’re just repeating something you heard from a handful of like minded nationalists like you while living there how many years ago?

SomethingHasGotToBeDoneAboutYourKids · 24/08/2026 17:22

BubbleAndLeek · 24/08/2026 16:43

Why don't people understand that on average the average white British male is a lower risk profile than the average asylum seeker who is from a nation where women have no rights.

Exactly. As the data proves to be the case, aside from basic logic.

Men of Chinese ethnicity in the UK, for example, pose a demonstrably lower risk of being rapists than white British men based on the CPS’s own data. Each man of other specific ethnicities poses a very statistically significant higher risk on average; in some cases ten times higher.

This isn’t about race. It’s about culture.

GunnelVallquist · 24/08/2026 17:22

NullaEffugium · 24/08/2026 17:21

So no official warning from their government to ours then? No poll? No academic research? No investigative journalism?

You’re just repeating something you heard from a handful of like minded nationalists like you while living there how many years ago?

Nationalists!

CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 17:23

NullaEffugium · 24/08/2026 17:21

So no official warning from their government to ours then? No poll? No academic research? No investigative journalism?

You’re just repeating something you heard from a handful of like minded nationalists like you while living there how many years ago?

😂😆 Bye bye Nulla

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LuckyHazelFox · 24/08/2026 17:23

Nuthatch26 · 24/08/2026 17:17

Are you saying that white men rape too? Wow, I didn't know that. Thank you for educating us. You've completely changed my opinion. 🙄

I wish we had known this before. Giving those men and young boys a leaflet telling them what consent means, would have put all.our minds at rest.

NullaEffugium · 24/08/2026 17:24

There is no correlation between nationality and likelihood to rape.
Whatever you have read is faulty statistics done by amateurs, no professional statistician would sign off on such direct comparisons.

The only correlation is male sex and rape.

LuckyHazelFox · 24/08/2026 17:24

GunnelVallquist · 24/08/2026 17:18

Not going to engage, not going to engage…

Yeah, I'm with you x

CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 17:24

GunnelVallquist · 24/08/2026 17:22

Nationalists!

Nationalists, Nazis, what next on the list of insults to those of us women that won't get in line, I wonder..

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NullaEffugium · 24/08/2026 17:25

CoventryCity · 24/08/2026 17:23

😂😆 Bye bye Nulla

So gossip really. Not anything of substance. Just more racism.

Just today’s version of the old racist trope about the Irish and DV.

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