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Crash on A66 that killed two police officers and 5 others…

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bookworm1982 · 22/08/2026 18:53

Am I correct that the other victims were 5 lads travelling in one car the wrong way up the motorway? EXACTLY the same as the 5 Irish lads who died a few days ago travelling the wrong way up a motorway too? Surely not twice in a week? Is there some sort of mental social media thing going on, telling kids to drive up the wrong way? Like a dare? Just cannot believe it happened once, let alone twice. Just devastating.

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Æthelred · 23/08/2026 14:40

Reference number 17SM0881126 identifies a criminal case at Teesside Magistrates' Court involving defendant Makai Saddington, which had its first hearing on 17 July 2026.Case Details Defendant: Makai Saddington Court: Teesside Magistrates' Court - Courtroom 03Magistrate: District Judge (MC) Hamilton Date: 17 July 2026 at 1:30 pm Prosecutor: CPS-NECD Offence Charges Assaulting a constable in the execution of duty Racially or religiously aggravated intentional harassment, alarm, or distress (words/writing)Using threatening, abusive, or insulting words or behaviour to cause harassment, alarm, or distress.

AquaLeader · 23/08/2026 14:43

MissMappsGardenProduce · 23/08/2026 11:20

Let's say you are.

You can fuck off back to Ireland.

However, if you are saying that as a traveller you are a different race to the rest of the Irish, to the extent that you suffer from racism-racism that you expect to be given special protection for-then you are plainly not Irish.

You say that you are a different race.

So, the Irish race don't want you-a convicted criminal-you have nothing to do with them. Why should they keep you?

Let's do a DNA test on you. The result of that will determine where you are fucking back off to-the land of your ancestors, whether that be in the depth of the Amazonian Basin or the top of a Transylvanian mountain. Your blood, your race, will decide.

if they don't want you, bar the gates against you, then you can sail the seven seas in a barrel if no ship will take you. Bon Voyage!

Off you fuck-stop being an incubus in Ireland.

However, if the DNA test shows that your blood, your race, is the exact same as every other Irish people then you will be jailed in Ireland.

But that will be enough of the bollocks of calling yourself a different race.

This can also be applied to English travellers.

If you are a different race, prove it.

Is there any evidence that the five involved in the crash near Middleborough are Irish?

Amberlynnswashcloth · 23/08/2026 14:43

So its being reported that two of them were aged 23, not 13!

HelenaWilson · 23/08/2026 14:45

She was angry that the Romany children at the school where I worked referred to themselves as "Gypsies". According to the Traveller, only Travellers were gypsies.

But Gypsies have always been identified with Romanys, haven't they?

.....However, he was obliged to carry an Alien Card until the early 1960s

My British born grandmother had one of those from the First World War because she was married to a foreign national - who was away fighting in the army of one of our allies. It was kept up with all her changes of address until after the Second World War. I have it now, and it has been useful in family history research.

Walikota · 23/08/2026 14:47

I mind once being told in Ireland,that travellers were considered to be 'Cromwell's brigrants' and thus very likely to have English and Welsh surnames,the implication being they were camp followers or servants who went on to cause havoc in the wake of Cromwell's invasion and shunned for this role in Irish history.

Walikota · 23/08/2026 14:49

Brigands*

SwirlyGates · 23/08/2026 14:50

EmeraldShamrock000 · 23/08/2026 12:25

You could see the bend. It was beyond tragic these officers were on the road.

There will be a big clamp down now, I hope, compiling TikTok videos, mass surveillance.

The lucky dip gang in Ireland were active at least two years, posting their videos, laughing at the public, even mocking people who were looking for their car on local Facebook groups.

The Garda could have caught them months/years ago, they knew their name, they could have been monitoring them closely instead of dealing with the other distractions in society. Letting these people get more confident. following them for one night would have done it.

I said this somewhere up thread, but why weren't they locked up already? The one who drove over the motorcyclist, surely that should have resulted in jail time? And that's without getting started on the many other offences they had committed between them.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/08/2026 14:51

HelenaWilson · 23/08/2026 14:45

She was angry that the Romany children at the school where I worked referred to themselves as "Gypsies". According to the Traveller, only Travellers were gypsies.

But Gypsies have always been identified with Romanys, haven't they?

.....However, he was obliged to carry an Alien Card until the early 1960s

My British born grandmother had one of those from the First World War because she was married to a foreign national - who was away fighting in the army of one of our allies. It was kept up with all her changes of address until after the Second World War. I have it now, and it has been useful in family history research.

Yes, to your question. The young lady concerned seemed to be unaware of this.

I still have Dad's Alien Card. I always thought that his first British DP camp was in Scotland, but it turns out that he was in Cambridgeshire first.

0Thatsplenty0 · 23/08/2026 14:53

Puffinsandcoffee · 23/08/2026 07:29

All of Ireland doesn't have that attitude. For anyone else reading this eugenicist bile: the Irish people I know have more respect for the dead and the bereaved than that. Police, Traveller, immigrant, criminal, whatever - one of the best things about Irish culture is its respect for the dead and the bereaved.

As for the community the driver and his mates were from, assuming it's travellers outsiders will provide all the opprobrium necessary (and more besides), as it always has done where travellers are concerned. Whatever internal debates this community is having about how behaviour like that should be seen and dealt with, you don't use a community event - like a funeral - to make a stand against or an example of one of your own, especially when you're under attack.

Oh indeed they do. Garda Commissioner Justin Kelly condemned their behaviour. Minister for Justic Jim O'Callaghan strongly condemned them, he didn't even mention their families in his statement. Get your facts right. You sound as if you don't even know the facts surrounding this.

SleeplessInWherever · 23/08/2026 14:53

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 14:34

What was her second statement and why has she made another statement?

She posted twice on X yesterday.

The first was before it was publicly known that police officers had died, so just referred to the 7 deaths. The second was after, so had far more detail around that.

I have no idea why, beyond that, because I’m not Anna Turley and I don’t know her. But I do know the area, and do know that it’s absolutely her business/place to comment.

Iheartmysmart · 23/08/2026 15:00

Rest in peace PC Blades and PC Clough. Rest assured Theo, Cole, Jacob, Michael and Makai, you won’t be seeing any angels where you’re going.

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 15:01

SleeplessInWherever · 23/08/2026 14:53

She posted twice on X yesterday.

The first was before it was publicly known that police officers had died, so just referred to the 7 deaths. The second was after, so had far more detail around that.

I have no idea why, beyond that, because I’m not Anna Turley and I don’t know her. But I do know the area, and do know that it’s absolutely her business/place to comment.

I didn't think you were Turley, it was a rhetorical question. One statement would suffice.

She shouldn't have laid flowers and paid respects 'to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday'. She knew, as did many people locally the circumstances of the incident before public announcements. She could have held off and then appropriately paid respects for the police officers killed in the line of duty when it was made public.

I wonder if there'll be any objection from this MP to the 'baloon' releases at the various venues on Mon? She might attend and make another statement who knows.

DaisyDooley · 23/08/2026 15:03

Goot · 23/08/2026 12:19

Training the police to participate in these kinds of chase isn’t what’s needed. We need the army with whatever stuff necessary - tanks, guns, helicopters to just annihilate anyone speeding the wrong way down a major road.

Sadly there isn’t enough time.
The police were pictured on ring camera chasing at 03.36. They called off the chase seconds later.
The VW ploughed 8nto the police car @ 03.40.
When the fuckimg morons are doing 100mph there simply isn’t the time to get a helicopter up.
Ithink it’s about time we bought a nice big prison in El Salvador and sent all of the rapists, pedos, cop killers, idiots who drive the wrong way down motorways to evade the police and drug dealers.
I think we would see a drop in crime.

Looloolullabelle · 23/08/2026 15:04

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Ill sleep better tonight knowing these little fuckers can’t hurt anyone else.

RIP to the police officers and my thoughts are with their families.

As for the families of the 5 boys, I hope they are proud of the scum they raised 👍🏻

I am sick of this chav culture, no respect and think they can do what they like. It’s rife in our area mainly with off road bikes, so apologies if you think my comments are harsh but I seriously couldn’t give two hoots about 5 scroats who just killed themselves.

grrrlatrix · 23/08/2026 15:06

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 15:01

I didn't think you were Turley, it was a rhetorical question. One statement would suffice.

She shouldn't have laid flowers and paid respects 'to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday'. She knew, as did many people locally the circumstances of the incident before public announcements. She could have held off and then appropriately paid respects for the police officers killed in the line of duty when it was made public.

I wonder if there'll be any objection from this MP to the 'baloon' releases at the various venues on Mon? She might attend and make another statement who knows.

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This is unnecessarily mean spirited. The first statement came out at a time when not all the info had been made public, although of course we knew more than was being released.
She would be criticised even more if she didn’t say something straight away.
I’ve asked about the balloon release and if anything can be done. 🤞

HarshbutTrue2 · 23/08/2026 15:11

WearyAuldWumman · 23/08/2026 14:10

DNA tests aren't that simple. Based on what I know about my family tree - and DNA tests taken by the Scottish side of my family - you'd have to cut me into pieces.

I'm supposedly half Scottish, half Slav. Turns out that there might be a smidgen of Polynesian and a smidgen of Latvian in the Scottish side. (History tells of some Tahitians who landed in St Andrews after a Scots merchant married a Tahitian woman and I've discovered that one of my great-grannies had a great-great grandpa who was a Latvian pastry cook who settled in Kirkcaldy.)

Dad's side is a mix of various Balkans nationalities, but apparently the family originated in Hungary and there might be a few other mixes in there, courtesy of the Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire and Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Having said all that...Dad came to the UK as a Displaced Person who'd fought with the Allies. `He was here twenty years before he could afford to pay naturalisation fees, etc.

However, he was obliged to carry an Alien Card until the early 1960s. He signed in at the local Police Station once a week and had to notify any change of address. He and the other men who came over at the same time were under no illusions about their situation: they knew that any bad behaviour meant that they'd be deported and they had no complaints about that.

I was at primary school when Dad underwent the naturalisation process. I recall that we were visited by local bobbies who also interviewed our neighbours to check whether we were troublesome. (Mum came from a long line of locals, with the exceptions of the Tahitian servant and pastry cook.)

The irony, actually, is that we had two feral (UK) families living in our block and when one of their sons smashed my front teeth (hence my single implant) my parents were scared to complain about it in case they made allegations about us and had Dad deported.

But yes - I agree that you when you live here, then you fit in. That was certainly Dad's view.

As for Travellers, I'm pretty certain that their DNA would just show them to be a Scottish/Irish/English mix.

I've mentioned on another thread that I had to stop a Traveller girl from assaulting a Romany girl one time. What sparked the Traveller girl's rage?

She was angry that the Romany children at the school where I worked referred to themselves as "Gypsies". According to the Traveller, only Travellers were gypsies.

We also had fights between Travellers and Carnival people and there were battles between Traveller adult men in a local Traveller site.

However, so far as I can see the toxic masculinity that causes young men to behave in a feral manner extends to nearly all groups in our area and it's become worse.

When I was a girl, only the lowest of the low would use his feet in a fight. By the time I retired, teenage boys were hunting in packs for lone males so that they could put the boot in. They thought that stomping on someone's head was funny.

The social media for the area seems to be full of pages of teenagers fighting at bus stations these days, to the extent that there are umpteen demands that free bus passes in Scotland be revoked.

What an interesting post. Your dad was obviously bloody grateful to be here and wanted to fit in and contribute to the his adopted country. So many of today's arrivals, and those born here, simply don't have that attitude.

As for the bus stations, it will be interesting to see hoe Burnham's bus plans work out in practice.

CandidLurker · 23/08/2026 15:15

@Taytocrisps thanks for that explanation it does make sense why there might be a reluctance to try to set any boundaries.

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 15:15

'This is unnecessarily mean spirited. The first statement came out at a time when not all the info had been made public, although of course we knew more than was being released'
Mean spirited?! imo laying flowers and paying respects for 7 deaths was incredibly inappropriate. She knew the circumstances.

2 deaths of course. Or all she had to say was this was a horrific incident, fullstop.

HarshbutTrue2 · 23/08/2026 15:23

Sorry, I'm not into this laying flowers thing. Especially for people I don't know. I think it's odd. Not many people send flowers to funerals now, so why do they put them on street corners for random strangers.
If I happened to see the police officers' funeral cortege, I would stand and bow my head in respect.

Footballboots · 23/08/2026 15:24

They can't win. Another local MP has posted about a lack of prisons being a reason crimes like this happen. They are getting a slating.

The A66 runs through the Redcar and Cleveland area. One of the policeman had links to sports clubs in that area too.

It's a tough day seeing everything on social media. Emotions are high.

Allseeingallknowing · 23/08/2026 15:27

Looloolullabelle · 23/08/2026 15:04

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Ill sleep better tonight knowing these little fuckers can’t hurt anyone else.

RIP to the police officers and my thoughts are with their families.

As for the families of the 5 boys, I hope they are proud of the scum they raised 👍🏻

I am sick of this chav culture, no respect and think they can do what they like. It’s rife in our area mainly with off road bikes, so apologies if you think my comments are harsh but I seriously couldn’t give two hoots about 5 scroats who just killed themselves.

The parents are giving tributes to their sons in the media. Can’t bear to read them. Best if they kept their thoughts private in the circumstances.,

UneFoisAuChalet · 23/08/2026 15:30

I live locally. A few months ago my hairdresser’s car was stolen from her drive. Apparently the perpetrators were 14 years old. They were chased on the A66 ar 3am, by cop cars and a helicopter - they didn’t stop, turned around and headed back to the area by hairdresser lives. Not Pally Park, not Winney Bank, not Brambles Farm - a ‘naice’ place, which led us to believe that’s where they live. It was a weeknight so you gotta wonder where the parents were and their punishment was writing a letter of apology?!

I work in Middlesbrough and all summer long we’ve had to deal with absolute losers sitting outside my office block, fighting, drinking, drugging. And I - and you pay for that. As I sit in my office, working away, the fights of drunks hit my ears and I’m assaulted by the smell of skunk. They’ve never worked a day in their lives and we pay for them to get drunk and high all day long.

This shit needs to end. This scum killed police officers on the job, but they could have killed anyone of us. Maybe if they didn’t make being idle and getting money off the government a career they wouldn’t be able to procreate. And ban the SM platforms that allow these kids to feel famous for 10 minutes do8ng something criminal.

Cailin66 · 23/08/2026 15:31

nomas · 22/08/2026 19:34

Even a 13yo gets no sympathy?

In Ireland they were not age 13, there are 3 women with life changing injuries and a 7 year old still in hospital. That’s who I have sympathy for. And the two UK police officers killed.

The 5 dead Irish are well known for robbing, terrorising, stealing cars, doing U-turns on the motorway near Dublin. Filming it all and putting it up on Tik Tok. All you have to do is look at the funeral reporting on one of them to be very clear as to how these types of young men are brought up with no respect for anybody or anything.

Allseeingallknowing · 23/08/2026 15:32

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:28

Turley said "This morning I went down to South Bank to lay flowers and pay my respects, on behalf of our whole community, to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday,"

She should have said 'to the police officers who were killed in this appalling incident'.

She can’t win, if she’d only mentioned the police officers she’d have been criticised.

Nothingl3ft · 23/08/2026 15:33

grrrlatrix · 23/08/2026 15:06

This is unnecessarily mean spirited. The first statement came out at a time when not all the info had been made public, although of course we knew more than was being released.
She would be criticised even more if she didn’t say something straight away.
I’ve asked about the balloon release and if anything can be done. 🤞

I don't think the balloon releases etc for the 5 in the Passat are going to go down well in the local community, I am fairly local and there's - surprisingly for this area - an awful lot of support for the police (rightly so too) and disgust at what happened on Saturday morning.

A statement has been released saying that the Passat was being pursued and the pursuit called off when the Passat took the wrong side of the A66, the collision was around 10 seconds later and the officers involved in the collision were responding to an ANPR ping for the plates of the Passat, on the right side of the A66.

I was in Middlesbrough last night and there's a really uneasy feeling, with most people feeling like enough is enough with the way some people in the communities are causing misery and suffering with their behaviour, I can't see any memorials to the people in the car being accepted gracefully tbh.

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