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Crash on A66 that killed two police officers and 5 others…

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bookworm1982 · 22/08/2026 18:53

Am I correct that the other victims were 5 lads travelling in one car the wrong way up the motorway? EXACTLY the same as the 5 Irish lads who died a few days ago travelling the wrong way up a motorway too? Surely not twice in a week? Is there some sort of mental social media thing going on, telling kids to drive up the wrong way? Like a dare? Just cannot believe it happened once, let alone twice. Just devastating.

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Velvasilk · 23/08/2026 13:45

EmeraldShamrock000 · 23/08/2026 13:29

Holding parents criminally responsible for their children would make a difference.

They can't, when they're 18.

AndyKitten · 23/08/2026 13:48

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:28

Turley said "This morning I went down to South Bank to lay flowers and pay my respects, on behalf of our whole community, to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday,"

She should have said 'to the police officers who were killed in this appalling incident'.

This and the release of PC Harper’s killers will not endear her to the police forces.

Or to the electorate.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 23/08/2026 13:49

Velvasilk · 23/08/2026 13:45

They can't, when they're 18.

They most likely all have a lengthy list of previous convictions starting from under 13. If they’d have held the parents responsible instead of feeling sorry for them, they might not be still stealing after 18.

Cantspeakwontspeak · 23/08/2026 13:54

Mandatory national service for those not in further/higher education, learn rules, discipline and how to contribute to society.

HarshbutTrue2 · 23/08/2026 13:54

Velvasilk · 23/08/2026 13:07

The mum was "so proud of him becoming a daddy".

Poor baby. It doesn't stand a chance in life.
Like the Elvis song 'In the Ghetto'

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:55

Velvasilk · 23/08/2026 13:45

They can't, when they're 18.

A 16 yr old and a 17yr old in this horrific situation. As pp have said what the older thugs were doing with such young kids we'll never know but yes shame the parents can't face some kind of penalty when they're under 18 and the parents still legally responsible for them.

SleeplessInWherever · 23/08/2026 14:09

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:07

Anna Turley MP for redcar

Andy McDonald and Luke Meyers Middlesbrough MPs so why she's laying flowers anyway I've no idea. Not her constituents. If she had to, honouring the police officers should've sufficed.

That’s not true.

South Bank is in the constituency of Redcar and Cleveland. Turley’s constituency.

At least one of them is from Pally, Pallister Park, which is in Middlesbrough.

South Bank is geographically closer to Middlesbrough but is in the Redcar borough.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/08/2026 14:10

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DNA tests aren't that simple. Based on what I know about my family tree - and DNA tests taken by the Scottish side of my family - you'd have to cut me into pieces.

I'm supposedly half Scottish, half Slav. Turns out that there might be a smidgen of Polynesian and a smidgen of Latvian in the Scottish side. (History tells of some Tahitians who landed in St Andrews after a Scots merchant married a Tahitian woman and I've discovered that one of my great-grannies had a great-great grandpa who was a Latvian pastry cook who settled in Kirkcaldy.)

Dad's side is a mix of various Balkans nationalities, but apparently the family originated in Hungary and there might be a few other mixes in there, courtesy of the Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire and Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Having said all that...Dad came to the UK as a Displaced Person who'd fought with the Allies. `He was here twenty years before he could afford to pay naturalisation fees, etc.

However, he was obliged to carry an Alien Card until the early 1960s. He signed in at the local Police Station once a week and had to notify any change of address. He and the other men who came over at the same time were under no illusions about their situation: they knew that any bad behaviour meant that they'd be deported and they had no complaints about that.

I was at primary school when Dad underwent the naturalisation process. I recall that we were visited by local bobbies who also interviewed our neighbours to check whether we were troublesome. (Mum came from a long line of locals, with the exceptions of the Tahitian servant and pastry cook.)

The irony, actually, is that we had two feral (UK) families living in our block and when one of their sons smashed my front teeth (hence my single implant) my parents were scared to complain about it in case they made allegations about us and had Dad deported.

But yes - I agree that you when you live here, then you fit in. That was certainly Dad's view.

As for Travellers, I'm pretty certain that their DNA would just show them to be a Scottish/Irish/English mix.

I've mentioned on another thread that I had to stop a Traveller girl from assaulting a Romany girl one time. What sparked the Traveller girl's rage?

She was angry that the Romany children at the school where I worked referred to themselves as "Gypsies". According to the Traveller, only Travellers were gypsies.

We also had fights between Travellers and Carnival people and there were battles between Traveller adult men in a local Traveller site.

However, so far as I can see the toxic masculinity that causes young men to behave in a feral manner extends to nearly all groups in our area and it's become worse.

When I was a girl, only the lowest of the low would use his feet in a fight. By the time I retired, teenage boys were hunting in packs for lone males so that they could put the boot in. They thought that stomping on someone's head was funny.

The social media for the area seems to be full of pages of teenagers fighting at bus stations these days, to the extent that there are umpteen demands that free bus passes in Scotland be revoked.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/08/2026 14:12

Cantspeakwontspeak · 23/08/2026 13:54

Mandatory national service for those not in further/higher education, learn rules, discipline and how to contribute to society.

It doesn't work like that now.

My late husband was a short-term regular and we used to attend regimental reunions.

Apparently, young troopers in training now carry a card showing their rights and are allowed to show this to their drill sergeant...

WearyAuldWumman · 23/08/2026 14:14

Elizabethandfour · 23/08/2026 13:11

Their surnames are not Irish

Travellers round our way have Scottish and English surnames. For example, a now deceased (I think) Scottish Traveller who was well known in the Scottish folk scene was Duncan Williamson.

Victorius19 · 23/08/2026 14:14

We need to hold the parents of these children criminally responsible for their neglectful parenting. Start putting them inside, removing other children from them and make them pay the price for their laziness rather than society. It's the only way to make people like this pay attention. They are the dregs of society, punching out child after child with neither the ability or intention to actually raise them to be decent human beings.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/08/2026 14:17

Ohcrap082024 · 23/08/2026 13:14

I’ve just seen the photos of the 5 who were in the car. I know very little about this case but I do know when I see something odd… the older one, wearing the ridiculously massive gold chain, what’s he doing out in the middle of the night with a bunch of boys?

I saw a lot of this when I was still teaching - some pathetic so-and-so who was a thug at school would discover that life outside school was a bit different when he was no longer a big fish in a small pond, so would latch onto kids who were still school age since they had a better chance of impressing them.

The two who immediately come to my mind didn't make it to 40. (One died of a drug overdose; the other had a violent death.)

OneShyPeachShark · 23/08/2026 14:19

Please can the next TikTok trend for these scrotes be to just drive themselves into a wall and leave respectable people out of it?

SleeplessInWherever · 23/08/2026 14:20

WearyAuldWumman · 23/08/2026 14:14

Travellers round our way have Scottish and English surnames. For example, a now deceased (I think) Scottish Traveller who was well known in the Scottish folk scene was Duncan Williamson.

The travellers in that area do too.

The biggest, most well known,
traveller family in the area have got a UK surname.

None of those involved shared that surname, but I have seen a video of one of them on a quad bike parked outside a caravan.

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 14:20

SleeplessInWherever · 23/08/2026 14:09

That’s not true.

South Bank is in the constituency of Redcar and Cleveland. Turley’s constituency.

At least one of them is from Pally, Pallister Park, which is in Middlesbrough.

South Bank is geographically closer to Middlesbrough but is in the Redcar borough.

A pp had said the offender and families were her constituents and that would be why she so inappropriately said 'to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday," but they weren't so she shouldn't have. Anything to get on the news though.
Yes the accident was in SountBank correct.

MsGreying · 23/08/2026 14:24

@JustAnotherWhinger makes some really valid points. Employment makes people adults in almost every sense of the word.
You can not be independent until you have your own money.

@EmeraldShamrock000 makes the point these lads wouldn't have worked.
But they'd have been surrounded by people with a good work ethic planning to make their own way in the world.
I think that rubs off differently on people.
Scum will always be scum.

Sending 50% to university was a crap idea on a million levels.

The lack of part time jobs is in part because of the changes due to technology but also migration now fills lots of shit jobs - the jobs that UK kids don't want to ever do.
But what happened to us?
We got wealthier as a society and somehow killed off the things that made us wealthy.

As Lou Reed would say, You're going to reap just what you sow".

ownedbymydogs · 23/08/2026 14:27

What an amazing family history you have @WearyAuldWumman !

You’ve also reminded me of the time (as a newly qualified teacher) over 25 years ago when the school I was working in (very naice, very Surrey) would regularly have to call the police because travellers would use the playground as a fighting spot. And not just the men. It was extraordinary.

SleeplessInWherever · 23/08/2026 14:27

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 14:20

A pp had said the offender and families were her constituents and that would be why she so inappropriately said 'to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday," but they weren't so she shouldn't have. Anything to get on the news though.
Yes the accident was in SountBank correct.

One of them at least was, his “ballon” release is on South Bank field.

From what I can gather there’s one from South Bank, 3 from Pallister Park/Whinney Banks (Middlesbrough), one from County Durham somewhere.

Saying it has nothing to do with her feels like a stretch, and unnecessary one at that. This isn’t a political incident. Her second statement focussed, rightly, much more heavily on the policemen.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 23/08/2026 14:29

@WearyAuldWumman media for the area seems to be full of pages of teenagers fighting at bus stations these days, to the extent that there are umpteen demands that free bus passes in Scotland be revoked.
the snp would never go that, stagecoach tried to ban the teen who stabbed one of their drivers and killed him. The snp got involved on the teens behalf and said it was against his rights to not be allowed bus travel.

BlueFahrenheit · 23/08/2026 14:31

HarshbutTrue2 · 23/08/2026 13:54

Poor baby. It doesn't stand a chance in life.
Like the Elvis song 'In the Ghetto'

The worst kind of father.

OonaStubbs · 23/08/2026 14:33

We need to crack down on travellers and stop making allowances for them.

WearyAuldWumman · 23/08/2026 14:34

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 23/08/2026 14:29

@WearyAuldWumman media for the area seems to be full of pages of teenagers fighting at bus stations these days, to the extent that there are umpteen demands that free bus passes in Scotland be revoked.
the snp would never go that, stagecoach tried to ban the teen who stabbed one of their drivers and killed him. The snp got involved on the teens behalf and said it was against his rights to not be allowed bus travel.

Awful, isn't it?

I got a bus back from Edinburgh late one afternoon and the experience was miserable, thanks to a load of teenage males who travelled from Edinburgh to Halbeath Park 'n' ride.

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 14:34

SleeplessInWherever · 23/08/2026 14:27

One of them at least was, his “ballon” release is on South Bank field.

From what I can gather there’s one from South Bank, 3 from Pallister Park/Whinney Banks (Middlesbrough), one from County Durham somewhere.

Saying it has nothing to do with her feels like a stretch, and unnecessary one at that. This isn’t a political incident. Her second statement focussed, rightly, much more heavily on the policemen.

What was her second statement and why has she made another statement?

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 14:35

OonaStubbs · 23/08/2026 14:33

We need to crack down on travellers and stop making allowances for them.

They weren't travellers, not that it matters. We need to crack down on feral scum full stop.

ForRedPoet · 23/08/2026 14:36

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 08:56

Oh balloon release for 24th already been posted. Yep, GoFundMe will be next.

Surprise surprise.
Little angels.

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