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Crash on A66 that killed two police officers and 5 others…

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bookworm1982 · 22/08/2026 18:53

Am I correct that the other victims were 5 lads travelling in one car the wrong way up the motorway? EXACTLY the same as the 5 Irish lads who died a few days ago travelling the wrong way up a motorway too? Surely not twice in a week? Is there some sort of mental social media thing going on, telling kids to drive up the wrong way? Like a dare? Just cannot believe it happened once, let alone twice. Just devastating.

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Velvasilk · 23/08/2026 13:07

The mum was "so proud of him becoming a daddy".

Crash on A66 that killed two police officers and 5 others…
JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:07

ThreeB · 23/08/2026 13:01

Her constituency includes this part of Middlesbrough

Anna Turley MP for redcar

Andy McDonald and Luke Meyers Middlesbrough MPs so why she's laying flowers anyway I've no idea. Not her constituents. If she had to, honouring the police officers should've sufficed.

DdraigGoch · 23/08/2026 13:07

houseofchaosandclothes · 22/08/2026 19:19

The Irish Parliament asked TikTok to appear and they refused - there absolutely is a trend of late teen males filming themselves stealing cars and chasing gardai, certainly in Ireland. However I don’t think it’s like an ice bucket challenge or something, I don’t imagine ordinary law abiding teenage boys are going to start stealing cars if they weren’t already doing so

The Irish government ought to respond by banning TikTok.

Elizabethandfour · 23/08/2026 13:11

BlushingBrightly · 23/08/2026 10:46

Is there a link to substantiate recent posts that the lads in the car weren't travellers?

Their surnames are not Irish

BlueFahrenheit · 23/08/2026 13:13

CandidLurker · 23/08/2026 10:41

Is that quote real? Could someone translate it into English please?

Yes, I don't understand it either.

Ohcrap082024 · 23/08/2026 13:14

I’ve just seen the photos of the 5 who were in the car. I know very little about this case but I do know when I see something odd… the older one, wearing the ridiculously massive gold chain, what’s he doing out in the middle of the night with a bunch of boys?

MMBaranova · 23/08/2026 13:15

None of the surnames of the 5 in England look in any way Irish. One looks Polish (Matusiak is like 'Matthews'). One has an interesting forename 'Makai' and an English toponymic surname.

BlueFahrenheit · 23/08/2026 13:15

EmeraldShamrock000 · 23/08/2026 10:42

It’s crazy. Children in the 60’s and 70’s went to jail for robbing soda. The young offenders institution is at 175% capacity.
We need to build more prisons. Woke is no longer cutting it, there is no rehabilitation or deterrent, community services. Ireland like the UK has too many criminals in not enough prison space, early release schemes and suspended sentences is the way at the moment.

Yes, I agree. I want to see more prisons built and longer sentences.

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:15

Elizabethandfour · 23/08/2026 13:11

Their surnames are not Irish

Tbf lots of travellers aren't Irish but anyway the recently released named thugs are all local to a feral part of Middlesbrough apparently. Doesn't mean no connection to travellers obviously, doesn't really matter. Criminals are criminals whatever their ancestry.

Ilikewinter · 23/08/2026 13:17

Velvasilk · 23/08/2026 13:07

The mum was "so proud of him becoming a daddy".

And the next feral generation is born ....

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 23/08/2026 13:19

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:07

Anna Turley MP for redcar

Andy McDonald and Luke Meyers Middlesbrough MPs so why she's laying flowers anyway I've no idea. Not her constituents. If she had to, honouring the police officers should've sufficed.

They are laying flowers to honour the killers?!

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Hollyhobbi · 23/08/2026 13:22

CandidLurker · 23/08/2026 10:59

The Irish public have definitely had enough reading some of their comments online. And the funerals of 5 young men have drawn lots of negative comment. It made me question don’t parish priests in Ireland (or here for that matter) set any limits around what is acceptable at a funeral at a church?

They are afraid of them! We’re all afraid of them including the Guards! They would not be short of breaking into the church and robbing the candlesticks and collection money!,

ExtraOnions · 23/08/2026 13:25

Judges (read criminal justice system), does everything it can to stop young people getting criminal convictions, due to the lifelong impact of these. This is why we now have “behaviour contracts” etc - all the things that don’t work.

These young people commit crime with impunity, as there is no real punishment. “Youth Rehabilitation Order” nonesense etc. I remember we reported some anti-social behaviour (including drug dealing & stolen vehicles), and the Police response was to organise a community football match.

..and as for Youth Custody - youth club with your bed provided.

Nothing will be solved whilst we have wooly “punishments” for young offenders.

I also think you should be stopping the benefits of parents who’s kids are committing crime, and they should be ineligible for social housing.

BlueFahrenheit · 23/08/2026 13:25

Goot · 23/08/2026 12:08

This is absolutely horrific. We have to clamp down now before any more innocent people are killed. Two similar incidents in a few days.

Anyone caught speeding the wrong way down motorway/A road = life in prison. If that individual is a teen living with their parent/s = 20 years prison for parents, any remaining minor children removed from the home, home given to govt, along with any assets. Anyone posting a tik tok or similar of it = 20 years prison, all assets given to govt.

Of course, it won’t happen and more innocent people will die at random. Shit UK.

It feels a bit like the IRA bombings of shopping centres in the 80s. Random innocent people including children killed.

The UK is far too soft to adopt these sensible measures, which is profoundly unfortunate.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 23/08/2026 13:27

Iit hasn’t been confirmed that they’re all from the travelling community. Afaik. I’d hold back a little on travellers,
There has been lots of research on white young men from disadvantaged communities. This is the outcome of letting them take over communities terrorising decent neighbours.

ThreeB · 23/08/2026 13:27

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:07

Anna Turley MP for redcar

Andy McDonald and Luke Meyers Middlesbrough MPs so why she's laying flowers anyway I've no idea. Not her constituents. If she had to, honouring the police officers should've sufficed.

Redcar constituency includes parts of Middlesbrough south of the Tees. This includes Southbank and Grangetown.

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:28

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 23/08/2026 13:19

They are laying flowers to honour the killers?!

Turley said "This morning I went down to South Bank to lay flowers and pay my respects, on behalf of our whole community, to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday,"

She should have said 'to the police officers who were killed in this appalling incident'.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 23/08/2026 13:29

Holding parents criminally responsible for their children would make a difference.

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:32

ThreeB · 23/08/2026 13:27

Redcar constituency includes parts of Middlesbrough south of the Tees. This includes Southbank and Grangetown.

The actual accident may have happened in SouthBank area. The offenders and their families all from Middlesbrough so are not her constituents.

Taytocrisps · 23/08/2026 13:32

CandidLurker · 23/08/2026 10:59

The Irish public have definitely had enough reading some of their comments online. And the funerals of 5 young men have drawn lots of negative comment. It made me question don’t parish priests in Ireland (or here for that matter) set any limits around what is acceptable at a funeral at a church?

Where Travellers are concerned, a lot of people (and I don't think priests are immune from this) would be afraid to speak up. Put yourself in the priest's shoes. What do you say when a gold coffin turns up at your church? Refuse to accept it, and say you're not conducting the funeral? You'd be taking your life in your hands! Emotions run high at funerals at the best of times. Traveller funerals are known for violence between feuding gangs of Travellers. There's a good chance that some of the mourners are carrying slash hooks (or have them stashed in their car). Add alcohol into the mix and it's a recipe for disaster.

When word gets out that a Traveller funeral is due to take place, all of the local businesses close their doors. They're liable to be taken to court if they refuse to admit entry to a Traveller. But they also know that some (not all, I hasten to add) Travellers may damage the premises (at best) or commit a violent act (at worst). Easiest thing to do is to close your doors, even if it inconveniences the local population.

BTW I'm aware that only a small proportion of the young lads who have made the headlines in recent weeks were Travellers. But I'm sure the same applies where the deceased come from well known criminal families. If you're running a funeral business, would you be brave enough to say, "Look, innocent people have been injured/killed as a result of the activities of this young man. Don't you think it's sending out the wrong message to have a gold coffin/huge photo displays/big floral displays?". Or would you ignore your misgivings and take the money?

Anyway, I'm very sorry to hear that two British police officers have been killed in the latest incident. My thoughts are with their families and friends. I'm also thinking of the Irish family (three sisters and a little boy), some of whom have been seriously injured.

As for the clamour for solutions to the problems, I'm not sure that there are any quick fix solutions. The problems are really entrenched in those communities and families where criminal activities like 'joy'riding take place - toxic masculinity, low educational attainment, high rates of unemployment/dependence on benefits, substance abuse, lack of respect for figures of authority etc. For a lot of these kids, their futures are written before they ever leave the womb. And it's not a pretty picture.

BlueFahrenheit · 23/08/2026 13:33

EmeraldShamrock000 · 23/08/2026 13:29

Holding parents criminally responsible for their children would make a difference.

Absolutely.

The thought of these individuals breeding like cockroaches makes me shudder.

GCAcademic · 23/08/2026 13:34

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:28

Turley said "This morning I went down to South Bank to lay flowers and pay my respects, on behalf of our whole community, to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday,"

She should have said 'to the police officers who were killed in this appalling incident'.

She should have stayed at home and kept her stupid mouth shut rather than insult those two police officers and their families. The days of Labour demonstrating any sort of values or morality are, sadly, long gone.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 23/08/2026 13:36

JaniieJones · 23/08/2026 13:28

Turley said "This morning I went down to South Bank to lay flowers and pay my respects, on behalf of our whole community, to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday,"

She should have said 'to the police officers who were killed in this appalling incident'.

But it’s clear she also includes sympathy for the 5 killers

Letsgetthiswrongagain · 23/08/2026 13:42

One of them went “missing” last year. The same one who was in court last month for assaulting a police officer.

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