Crash on A66 that killed two police officers and 5 others…

[bookworm1982]

Am I correct that the other victims were 5 lads travelling in one car the wrong way up the motorway? EXACTLY the same as the 5 Irish lads who died a few days ago travelling the wrong way up a motorway too? Surely not twice in a week? Is there some sort of mental social media thing going on, telling kids to drive up the wrong way? Like a dare? Just cannot believe it happened once, let alone twice. Just devastating.

No, I didn't miss the point. Their chances were denied them by their feckless, drug-addicted parents. And your point about businesses offering work experience is a non-sequitur and not applicable to these kinds of kids - businesses wouldn't offer it to them and why should they when they'd never turn up and if they did they'd cause chaos.

You could see the bend. It was beyond tragic these officers were on the road.

There will be a big clamp down now, I hope, compiling TikTok videos, mass surveillance.

The lucky dip gang in Ireland were active at least two years, posting their videos, laughing at the public, even mocking people who were looking for their car on local Facebook groups.

The Garda could have caught them months/years ago, they knew their name, they could have been monitoring them closely instead of dealing with the other distractions in society. Letting these people get more confident. following them for one night would have done it.

I saw the funeral of one of the Irish criminals , horse drawn carriage and lots of mourners. I’m sick of people making these criminals out to be hero’s or decent humans. What about the poor sisters and the little boy in the other car they hit? Donate the money to them and have a simple funeral. And as for these latests ones I feel sympathy for the bereaved families of the police officers who deserve a hero’s funeral.

'You could see the bend. It was beyond tragic these officers were on the road'

Yes and it was close to a port and industrial area so such a shame it wasn't just a massive hgv that the Passat ran into.

These type of kids are not the only kids that grow up in these areas, when good law abiding kids can’t get a break but see Johnny on his shiny scooter and fancy trainers, the role of junior drug dealer becomes attractive. Maybe if they saw Pete in his bmw and university degree that might see that there are better choices and ways to succeed.

Yep. I agree.

Most people who drive the wrong way down a major road do not survive. I can think of 3 incidents in recent years within an hour of where I live, two very close indeed, where the drivers in wrong way incidents all died. Two were speculated to be deliberate acts and one was never fully explained. The guy even stopped at the bottom of the slip road and effectively did a 3 point turn to go nbound on a sbound carriageway. Possible confusion was cited but he lasted 300m before he crashed and killed a little girl in an oncoming vehicle as well as himself.

More needs to be done in terms of infrastructure to stop vehicles from entering major roads the wrong way. Like those things you can only drive over one way.

According to the BBC the local MP laid flowers for the 7 who lost their lives. What an insult to the 2 officers to say that.

As a cyclist, I see all sorts going on. I have seen drivers being passed balloons whilst driving. That's the latest craze 4 or 5 lads in a high-performance car going round doing balloons of nitrous oxide. The kerbs are littered with spent nitrous oxide cylinders. Cars with windows open, the stench of weed coming out.

I agree, but I think it’s just trying to please everyone to quell unrest. Much like that the initial media reports saying these criminals (because that’s what they are) had ‘connections’ to the traveller community seem now to have disappeared.

Funny, that.

I've never heard of balloons being released when people die. How and when did this begin?

More needs to be done in terms of infrastructure to stop vehicles from entering major roads the wrong way. Like those things you can only drive over one way.

But they have to allow for the emergency services possibly needing to access the 'wrong' way, or for traffic having to be directed that way in case of a major incident.

Then send them to school, they have every opportunity to learn but if their feckless breeders choose to take them out of school and the authorities do nothing about it because it's their 'culture' then they won't. No-one but their feckless breeders are denying them an education and it's wrong to divert money from the majority to pander to a 'culture' which encapsulates neglect. Others wouldn't be allowed to get away with it, the vast majority in ethnc groups value education so highly, why should this one 'culture', such a musused word, be the exception?

Can’t speak for Ireland, but in Scotland they just inform the authorities that they’re home educating.

The girls tend to attend school until they’re 16; depending on how the fathers make a living, the boys often go on the road as soon as they’re big enough to work.

The mothers claim to be separated and lived in settled accommodation with the girls and younger boys until Appleby.

"This morning I went down to South Bank to lay flowers and pay my respects, on behalf of our whole community, to the seven people whose lives were so tragically cut short yesterday,"

Really?!

She should be ashamed of herself. Let's honour and remember the innocent lives lost. Who tf lays flowers for the scum who have caused such devastation?! She'll be at the 'baloon' release next for the 'top lads' who are sleeping with the angles.

They’re in a YOI. I suspect it wouldn’t be a success and I wouldn’t want them in a school with my kid anyway.

I would hazard a guess that the local MP is not in a position to behave like that for fear of being assassinated like other MPs have been. They don't get round the clock security. I would go as far as to say you are being unfair. It's easy to call people out on social media. All those families are her constituents whatever we all think of them.

Agreed, though thankfully I think most people see this the same way you do.

They aren't her constituents. She's Redcar MP the dead passat occupants from Middlesbrough.

Her constituency includes this part of Middlesbrough

Yea, but abuse was rife in those places. Including CSA and including a decades long CSA ring where the men running a borstel in Rochdale were very badly abusing the children and also effectively pimping them out to a ring of fairly well connected men for very extreme levels of abuse.

It's hard to have sympathy for the types of scrotes who joy ride and risk other people's lives. But I wouldn't wish that on them. And bearing in mind a lot of the kids in borstels were there for other anti-social behaviour or stealing etc. Not OK, but doesn't justify the types of abuse that could happen in those places. Plus, the habit the local police seem to have gotten into of turning a blind eye to that sort of thing, and of seeing "those sorts of children" as "no good" "just like that" would have consequences for how they dealt with other grooming cases in the decades to come.

I absolutely agree that kids that joy ride and endanger other people should face severe consequences etc. And I find it hard to have sympathy for the men/teenagers that get hurt doing it. But a knee jerk reaction of "being back borstels" or worse just seeing whole segments of society as scum/underclass could have unintended consequences as well.

Fucking hell - Manson family vibes.