Crash on A66 that killed two police officers and 5 others…

[bookworm1982]

Am I correct that the other victims were 5 lads travelling in one car the wrong way up the motorway? EXACTLY the same as the 5 Irish lads who died a few days ago travelling the wrong way up a motorway too? Surely not twice in a week? Is there some sort of mental social media thing going on, telling kids to drive up the wrong way? Like a dare? Just cannot believe it happened once, let alone twice. Just devastating.

If the five teenagers had survived but then received custodial sentences, they would probably be released early in a few years time, potentially like the killers of poor PC Andrew Harper.

I have no sympathy with these morons nor the families that created them.

..This is normal behaviour for them.

Everything is amplified 0-100 as nobody has learned Critical Thinking skills, how to manage emotion, or how to behave like an Adult. They are pandered to be a media (Social and Mainsteam) who wear being thick as a Badge of Honour. Education is seen as “elite” and therefore bad.

You can’t point out that being uneducated is generally a bad thing. Just watch any episode of “house of games” to see the degeneration of Education in this country .. basic Maths, History and Geography questions sit unanswered (I saw one where nobody knew where Germany was, and that Queen Victoria was around in the 1950s)

Those two on Gogglebox who get people saying “awww” as they don’t know the basics in life.

How can we ever grown the country and grown the economy, when we won’t challenge “thickness”

I've seen the photos of some of the VW occupants. I see that they are all making that stupid gesture with their hands- you know - the one that tells you that you are probably looking at a photo of a recently deceased young man.

I hope the police have rich pickings at the funerals of these folks - they should have live facial recognition and plenty of transport at the ready.

Yes absolutely we have bigger roads and cars now.
So the stakes are higher and as I was saying getting likes and glory on SM definitely intensifies the thrill.

The Two Norries podcast was a really interesting listen to get an insight into the role models young boys look up to in disadvantaged areas.
These two men hit rock bottom and turned their lives around after serious addiction. Very interesting to hear. I live in a "disadvantaged" area now but I wasn't brought up here.
It still boggles my mind a bit how different values are.
It's a vicious vicious cycle.

Which I'm compassionate to.....but also ..these cases really test that compassion.

I'd be so ashamed if my child caused devastation like this.

This made my stomach heave.

Ugh.

This made me heave.

Is this a traveller thing then?

Both groups of boys seem to be LinkedIn to that community.

It seems astonishingly stupid

Is that quote real? Could someone translate it into English please?

It’s crazy. Children in the 60’s and 70’s went to jail for robbing soda. The young offenders institution is at 175% capacity.
We need to build more prisons. Woke is no longer cutting it, there is no rehabilitation or deterrent, community services. Ireland like the UK has too many criminals in not enough prison space, early release schemes and suspended sentences is the way at the moment.

They shouldn't be driving on the wrong side of a motorway at ANY speed.

I am genuine, and my views on this subject don't come from anything I learnt at school. I'm from a minority community myself. I've never heard of "Social Identity Theory" (not sure if I've missed your point/ if that was a joke). I really am genuine, and what I've read on the thread makes it, in my view, very much the place to give a different perspective on minority cultures. Especially as it turns out the boys aren't even travellers.

I used to teach literacy to Irish travellers in a YOI. There were whole families of cousins and brothers in there. They absolutely think the norms of society don't apply to them. They had never gone to school which was why they couldn't read. Even so, they were reading within a couple of weeks with one to one tuition.

Being intellectual is gay. Learning - gay. Showing an interest in something non-mainstream is gay. Empathy is gay. Reading - gay. Art, absolutely gay.

It’s toxic masculinity driving this awful and very British race to the bottom. This country is sick.

Is there a link to substantiate recent posts that the lads in the car weren't travellers?

Apparently it’s yet another stupid TikTok craze of getting into a police car chase and filming it. Utter stupidity and a complete waste of life.

XX getting my house smashed up from ya nutty ward over a boy that can’t defend himself if I want to post MY BABYS DAD I WILL get back to ur 14 year old girlfriend XX XX saying ur getting a ONE YEAR OLD BABY KICKED ALL OVECER OVER HIS DAD funnt hiw u have waited for the day hiw dad can’t defend him
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Mrs X is getting my house smashed up by the wards over my partner (who is now dead) I’ll post pictures of my baby’s Dad even though someone’s 14 year old girlfriend is threatening to kick my one year old around over his fathers actions, funny how they choose now to attack as he is dead and can’t defend himself or us.

Is it a piss take picture. A picture with 'angle' wings and the middle finger 🖕 up? It feels like it is taking the miss!

Unfortunately people seem to leave school with very little knowledge of even their own country’s history. I was talking to a couple of people in their early 30’s recently. Both reasonably good jobs. The subject of church/religion in England came up and they’d never heard of the Reformation!

Thank you for that. At least I can read it now!

“You are racist.” Shuts down all discussion. And is one of the main reasons we are all too terrified to say anything, or authorities to do anything.

It's the shut-down across the board and is used far too often.

Culture cannot be allowed to trump the law. And with this group of people, (and other ethnic minority groups) it has been allowed with bells on. There should be zero tolerance to any ‘cultural’ practice which sits outside our defined and settled legal framework. If you can’t abide by these rules, fuck off and live somewhere else is the message that should have been rammed home. And instead we’ve had decades of hand wringing so called ‘progressive’ appeasement that has ruined the country.

And I say that as someone who identifies as left wing.

edited for a typo.

Nope. It’s a toe rag thing. As an example the lucky dip gang in Ireland is made up of 70% settled and 30% traveller, from run down estates, the boys wearing Canada goose jackets, scooters and face masks, these groups have merged, they started off just stealing items from cars that were left open or your garden (lucky dip) before moving onto houses that cars.
It is people whose parents never had a job gang.
Most have been in and out of care.
Social welfare payments are a curse too, if they had to go out searching for food and wood to heat the house they’d soon look for a job.

That young lass sounds vulnerable to me. Her Facebook is open and it seems like her parents both died, she had the baby at 16 and heart of gold Makai hadn’t seen the baby in months and was slated her to anyone who’d care to listen

Do you know for sure if they were travellers?

The Irish public have definitely had enough reading some of their comments online. And the funerals of 5 young men have drawn lots of negative comment. It made me question don’t parish priests in Ireland (or here for that matter) set any limits around what is acceptable at a funeral at a church?