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AIBU to be angry that my husband is unconcerned about women’s safety?

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Peedoffdoesntcutit · 21/08/2026 19:59

To be pissed off with my husband. I said how upset I am that the child abuse and rape leaflet from the government is judged as necessary and we are continuing to let these men into our country who pose a threat to women. He just shrugged - I said doesn’t it bother you these men are coming into our society. We have daughters , I am a woman. I absolutely do not feel safe anymore where we live and would not walk on my own anymore. He said no not really. Absolutely furious with him. Does he not have to care as he’s a big tall man? I’m so pissed off, I’ve walked off and he’s given me the ick.

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Switchnow · 24/08/2026 18:38

So on balance it seems like quite a lot of pp would support a ban on men entering from
Afghanistan. What would you do with arrivals, immediately deport to Afghanistan?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 24/08/2026 19:09

Switchnow · 24/08/2026 18:38

So on balance it seems like quite a lot of pp would support a ban on men entering from
Afghanistan. What would you do with arrivals, immediately deport to Afghanistan?

On balance people want as much as a background check on these men as possible.

Not only from Afghanistan as things aren’t much better in Sudan or the Congo, Somalia and many Nigerian people are now been raped, murdered on beheaded.

There needs to be a full psychological evaluation carried out, root deep into the background, men from these cultural groups who have been through trauma are being let settle amongst communities, they should be detained until they are processed.

The religious warfare in Nigeria, now 50/50 Christian’s and Muslims is beyond our worst nightmare. There certainly won’t be 50% Christian in the next 5 years at the rate they’re being murdered.

Love that neighbour.

Inviting cultures that are very much against the norm in the host country is asking for trouble.

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Switchnow · 24/08/2026 20:44

EmeraldShamrock000 · 24/08/2026 19:09

On balance people want as much as a background check on these men as possible.

Not only from Afghanistan as things aren’t much better in Sudan or the Congo, Somalia and many Nigerian people are now been raped, murdered on beheaded.

There needs to be a full psychological evaluation carried out, root deep into the background, men from these cultural groups who have been through trauma are being let settle amongst communities, they should be detained until they are processed.

The religious warfare in Nigeria, now 50/50 Christian’s and Muslims is beyond our worst nightmare. There certainly won’t be 50% Christian in the next 5 years at the rate they’re being murdered.

Love that neighbour.

Inviting cultures that are very much against the norm in the host country is asking for trouble.

Ok, seems reasonable. How much do you think all that evaluation will cost, and how long will it take?

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Would you be happy anywhere as a woman? Afghanistan, Sudan, Iran, all similar to the UK?

Naunet · 25/08/2026 08:19

dizzydizzydizzy · 24/08/2026 13:40

The OP was worried about her safety due to migrants, so rape in marriage is irrelevant here. No need to be so combative-as I’m sure you realise, I think you would struggle to find any adults in the UK who think rape, whether within marriage or not, is acceptable.

As I understand it, rape is illegal in Aghanistan but the Taliban do not enforce the law so rape goes unpunished. But ordinary Afghans do not generally support the Taliban and the majority of them are Muslims and rape goes against Islam. So, yes, loosely speaking, it is fair to say that the Taliban encourage rape, but I’m pretty sure it is very unfair to say that Afghans in general think rape is Ok.

I was replying to you Dizzy and your claims, not OP, but nicely dodged - I wouldn't call forcing a child to "marry" an adult man, and real marriage personally. Also, its fine to rape none Muslim women isn't it? No problem with that at all in Islam, or maybe you can explain how owning sex slaves, isn't rape? https://www.brandeis.edu/projects/fse/muslim/slavery.html

EasternStandard · 25/08/2026 08:33

dizzydizzydizzy · 24/08/2026 14:39

the government has not said though that migrants are likely to rape women (Reform has said that). Maybe they simply want to be seen to be addressing concerns? Although I think it has backfired.

Labour obviously see an information gap otherwise the leaflet would not be needed.

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/08/2026 09:12

EasternStandard · 25/08/2026 08:33

Labour obviously see an information gap otherwise the leaflet would not be needed.

Yes, they said something like they were simply informing people of our laws because how else would they know. It is not the same as saying that migrants are more likely to break tbe law. Indeed, Migration Observatory (based at University of Oxford - provides impartial analysis and evidence on migration) published a report on migrant crime a few days ago. They say:

“Research on how migration affects crime rates in the UK is limited. Studies based on data from the 2000s and 2010s suggested that migration did not affect violent crime or property crime rates on average, but that a larger number of asylum seekers was associated with an increase in rates of property crime.”

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-and-crime-in-the-uk/

Migrants and crime in the UK - Migration Observatory

This briefing provides the available evidence on migration and crime in the UK.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-and-crime-in-the-uk/

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/08/2026 09:20

Switchnow · 24/08/2026 20:44

Ok, seems reasonable. How much do you think all that evaluation will cost, and how long will it take?

It’ll cost less than two or three years accommodation in a hotel, before moving to a HMO with a life long benefits system if they decide they can’t be bothered working, maternity costs when they bring the wife over, school costs, it costs a lot more using the current system.

One man was interviewed in Ireland. He lives in Co. Clare in a fabulous hotel going on 3 years, the hotel rooms cost between 200 up to 500 per night. It was popular with American tourists. The towns have lost their hotels and the tourism industry.

TrishM80 · 25/08/2026 09:24

Import the Third World, become the Third World.

EasternStandard · 25/08/2026 09:25

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/08/2026 09:12

Yes, they said something like they were simply informing people of our laws because how else would they know. It is not the same as saying that migrants are more likely to break tbe law. Indeed, Migration Observatory (based at University of Oxford - provides impartial analysis and evidence on migration) published a report on migrant crime a few days ago. They say:

“Research on how migration affects crime rates in the UK is limited. Studies based on data from the 2000s and 2010s suggested that migration did not affect violent crime or property crime rates on average, but that a larger number of asylum seekers was associated with an increase in rates of property crime.”

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-and-crime-in-the-uk/

Why would those basic issues in the leaflet not be known? In your view

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/08/2026 09:49

EasternStandard · 25/08/2026 09:25

Why would those basic issues in the leaflet not be known? In your view

The laws of the land? Because the law varies from one country to another, eg female genital mutilaton is still widely practiced in a few countries and in some countries women do not have equal rights.

EasternStandard · 25/08/2026 10:06

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/08/2026 09:49

The laws of the land? Because the law varies from one country to another, eg female genital mutilaton is still widely practiced in a few countries and in some countries women do not have equal rights.

How many men in Afghanistan would not know that rape isn’t ok?

Because some of your posts agree there’s an information gap which needs to be rectified and in others you say they do know already.

Ditto for the other things explained in the leaflet

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/08/2026 10:23

EasternStandard · 25/08/2026 10:06

How many men in Afghanistan would not know that rape isn’t ok?

Because some of your posts agree there’s an information gap which needs to be rectified and in others you say they do know already.

Ditto for the other things explained in the leaflet

I would think that all men everywhere know that rape is not ok. That is just basic. I have not said that I think some men might not realise this about rape.

Personallky, I’m not convinced this leaflet is a good idea. I think it was a political move by the government to make it look like they are addressing people’s concerns about rape and women’s safety. I think it has backfired on them. I’m not sure why they thought it would go down well with the public. I’m only guessing.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/08/2026 15:32

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/08/2026 10:23

I would think that all men everywhere know that rape is not ok. That is just basic. I have not said that I think some men might not realise this about rape.

Personallky, I’m not convinced this leaflet is a good idea. I think it was a political move by the government to make it look like they are addressing people’s concerns about rape and women’s safety. I think it has backfired on them. I’m not sure why they thought it would go down well with the public. I’m only guessing.

Well sadly you would be wrong as there are plenty of countries where there is no harm in raping a women.
Afghanistan being one.
Women who seek divorce face execution in Afghanistan, women are raped on the streets in Iran, it’s part of growing up as a young girl in many African countries.
Political leader, K. R. Ramesh Kumar remarks in India. "There is a saying that when rape is inevitable, lie down and enjoy it.
No, not all men know that it is not okay, they don’t care, they don’t think about it. It is their right.

StarDolphins · 25/08/2026 15:50

Bogliasco · 21/08/2026 20:08

There's plenty of White British men raping women so perhaps this leaflet could be posted to all UK men to remind them not to rape because lord knows they need it.

Exactly, there are plenty of white British men are raping women so all the more reason to not let more potential rapists in. If the bath is overflowing, you don’t turn the tap on even more!

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/08/2026 17:58

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/08/2026 15:32

Well sadly you would be wrong as there are plenty of countries where there is no harm in raping a women.
Afghanistan being one.
Women who seek divorce face execution in Afghanistan, women are raped on the streets in Iran, it’s part of growing up as a young girl in many African countries.
Political leader, K. R. Ramesh Kumar remarks in India. "There is a saying that when rape is inevitable, lie down and enjoy it.
No, not all men know that it is not okay, they don’t care, they don’t think about it. It is their right.

I have addressed this in my PPs .The Taliban regime turns a blind eye to rape. Most of the Afghan population hate the Taliban. I would like to bet that ordinary Afghans hate rape just as much as you and me and any other half decent people.

Switchnow · 25/08/2026 18:33

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/08/2026 09:20

It’ll cost less than two or three years accommodation in a hotel, before moving to a HMO with a life long benefits system if they decide they can’t be bothered working, maternity costs when they bring the wife over, school costs, it costs a lot more using the current system.

One man was interviewed in Ireland. He lives in Co. Clare in a fabulous hotel going on 3 years, the hotel rooms cost between 200 up to 500 per night. It was popular with American tourists. The towns have lost their hotels and the tourism industry.

You’re assuming both that all those costs wouldn’t follow anyway, and that they would. Most people want to work.

Can you link to that story?

MaturingCheeseball · 25/08/2026 20:07

dizzydizzydizzy · 25/08/2026 17:58

I have addressed this in my PPs .The Taliban regime turns a blind eye to rape. Most of the Afghan population hate the Taliban. I would like to bet that ordinary Afghans hate rape just as much as you and me and any other half decent people.

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So why are Afghans so heavily represented in rape figures (in the countries that record ethnicity) then? Many links on this thread to the statistics, if the answer is “links please” (so tiresome).

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/08/2026 21:27

Switchnow · 25/08/2026 18:33

You’re assuming both that all those costs wouldn’t follow anyway, and that they would. Most people want to work.

Can you link to that story?

Sudanese asylum seeker who arrived in UK after claim was rejected in France lay in wait on high street for lone woman before slashing her 30 times with a broken bottle
He wouldn’t be on the street. There is 1000’s like him, if there was a European data base for failed asylum seekers they wouldn’t be about to live around Europe. Failed asylum in a European country should not be able to access another European country. if he was in a processing centre that lady would not be slashed 39 times.
In Ireland two migrants fought, one died, the chap who died had been deported from Italy to Nigeria for rape, the one who stabbed him was wanted in the uk. Mr babatunde Anne’s street Dublin since you like to check but always fail to acknowledge the act.

Can you link to that story?
What story? The story about the man living in the hotel 3 years? Hardly news. There are 1000’s of people living in many hotels since 2022 in Ireland under the international protection scheme.

FFSItsTooHot · 25/08/2026 21:40

fumingrightnow1 · 21/08/2026 20:10

Black people can be racist too

As was proven a few years back when an Asian woman in my local shopping centre called me 'a piece of white trash'. My crime? Her child has run full pelt into my legs, nearly knocking me over - I was on crutches. I merely said to her when she just called the child back to her with not a word of apology, 'An apology would have been nice'. In response,she turned on me.

fumingrightnow1 · 25/08/2026 22:16

FFSItsTooHot · 25/08/2026 21:40

As was proven a few years back when an Asian woman in my local shopping centre called me 'a piece of white trash'. My crime? Her child has run full pelt into my legs, nearly knocking me over - I was on crutches. I merely said to her when she just called the child back to her with not a word of apology, 'An apology would have been nice'. In response,she turned on me.

If that had been the other way round you would of been arrested

EmeraldShamrock000 · 25/08/2026 23:05

FFSItsTooHot · 25/08/2026 21:40

As was proven a few years back when an Asian woman in my local shopping centre called me 'a piece of white trash'. My crime? Her child has run full pelt into my legs, nearly knocking me over - I was on crutches. I merely said to her when she just called the child back to her with not a word of apology, 'An apology would have been nice'. In response,she turned on me.

Lighted hearted .. just brought back a memory.. a dispute between two ladies at the school, both had some extra weight on them, the black lady called the white lady “a big pink pig”. 🐖 even the white lady laughed. It was funny. 😅

HelloIamLinda · 25/08/2026 23:09

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EvieBB · 26/08/2026 00:22

Peedoffdoesntcutit · 21/08/2026 20:05

I feel so cross about it. I have no problem with safe legal migration- but that isn’t what’s happening. I feel our government are not protecting us women who live here and it’s scaring me. And for a man to not get it. When I grew up we could go to night clubs, walk round parks on our own etc now I wouldn’t dare where we live. We’ve had so many incidents reported here. I’m just cross I think and sad.

Home grown British men statistically are just as prone (perentage wise) to commit violent crimes as immigrants surely?! Your post sounds extremely racist.