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AIBU to be angry about comments on my granddaughters' names?

345 replies

Ellenay · Yesterday 17:59

So, I have 5 grandchildren, this weekend I’m looking after all of them, my daughter and her husband are away to a wedding in France and my son and his wife have booked a little spa weekend.

I popped in to see some of my friends with them as I don’t often have the children and my friends like seeing them.

One of my friends had some other friends I’ve not met before over but we joined them. After introducing the children and then being sent to the kitchen to get a lollipop, one of these friends said oh don’t all the girls have little showgirl names, I must have looked a bit shocked as someone else then jumped in and said oh she doesn’t mean p*rnstar just very moulin rouge.

I just said I thought their names were lovely and moved on but now I’m back home I’m furious, I’m furious I didn’t give her a piece of my mind.

AIBU to think this is an absurd thing to say about children’s names?!

OP posts:
Summernites · Yesterday 21:22

Lola was a showgirl, Roxy Hart in Chicago, obvs not a showgirl but very theatrical. Roxanne song used in Moulin Rouge, Ruby a gem - I always associate things and to others it is probably totally random. It might have popped into my head and said it but I think they’re cute, it wouldn’t be an insult. Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpenter doing the showgirl thing just now. Don’t see why it’s a bad thing. If she meant it insulting she was a bitch.

Hanksness · Yesterday 21:24

They were very rude.
No filter.
Ignorant.
Yanbu.

Hellohelga · Yesterday 21:29

I think they were very rude to say anything other than…what lovely names.

Iocanepowder · Yesterday 21:33

Op that woman won’t be the first to make that association.

As I said, 2 early posters on this thread correctly guessed Roxy and Lola before you confirmed the names.

Sorry but I think you’re overthinking this and are being a bit too defensive.

musicandmen · Yesterday 21:35

Whether we like it or not names especially girls names come with pre conceived judgement!!

I remember a friend called her girl her a name and my grandma (in her 80’s) said she must want her to grow up to be a stripper!!

musicandmen · Yesterday 21:37

Ellenay · Yesterday 18:14

No, not Kitty. I fear this thread is just going to turn into a guessing game of their names instead of actually discussing the woman’s manners so I will share their names.
Lola, Roxy and Ruby.

Her name was Lola she was a show girl
Roxy short for Roxanne- song about a women oof night
ruby - the same

I think if you are from a certain era these names were showgirl names

Pennyfan · Yesterday 21:39

Shit, now I have Copacabana in my head.

IsItWickedNotToCare · Yesterday 21:40

Fifi trixiebelle

nomorekitchenislandsplease · Yesterday 21:41

OP, you sound very sensitive about this. Some people take against certain names for all kinds of obscure reasons, it doesn't need to matter.
FWIW, my friend has just had a new granddaughter Roxy and is delighted. I think it's becoming fashionable again.
As for the 'showgirl' comment, she'd be thinking of 'Her name was Lola, she was a showgirl'. It's about a young dancer who stayed faithful to her true love.

pearlsclutchedhard · Yesterday 21:42

I think they’re nice names!

Iocanepowder · Yesterday 21:44

I am thinking of this scene in Friends

Season 2 Rachel GIF by Friends
pearlsclutchedhard · Yesterday 21:45

BitOutOfPractice · Yesterday 20:44

Id be pretty pissed if 5 small children arrived unexpectedly to crash into my Friday afternoon, no matter what their names were.

Maybe that’s just me?

I’m sure she pre warned them but yes probably just you

RockinCara · Yesterday 21:50

The Op has already said she prewarned them.

I think I’d have told the woman that she was showing her age saying they were showgirl names, and said that they were popular names nowadays. Could have been worse, she could have said they were dog’s names!

watchingthishtread · Yesterday 21:51

I agree she was tactless. She obviously touched a nerve with you. Are you worried that other people might be thinking what this woman has said out loud?

Iocanepowder · Yesterday 21:52

RockinCara · Yesterday 21:50

The Op has already said she prewarned them.

I think I’d have told the woman that she was showing her age saying they were showgirl names, and said that they were popular names nowadays. Could have been worse, she could have said they were dog’s names!

Ah my friend does have a lovely dog called Ruby.

GoldenNuggets08 · Yesterday 21:53

I think YANBU. I think its rude to pass comment on a person's name, especially when they are in your company. There was no need! I dont think she meant to cause offence but she was definitely tactless.

Lilacblu · Yesterday 21:54

I don't understand why you are upset, I don't see it's such a terrible thing to say,.

BitOutOfPractice · Yesterday 21:54

pearlsclutchedhard · Yesterday 21:45

I’m sure she pre warned them but yes probably just you

She warned her friends. Not their guests. It’s been 20 years since I had small kids. Let alone 5 of them. That’s a lot. I can guarantee I’m not the only one, just the only one saying it.

Chunkychips23 · Yesterday 21:57

You’re just being a fierce and protective Grandmother. No offence was probably meant though. It’s just something you’d think but not say.

vintedandminted · Yesterday 21:58

I think your getting a hard time OP. Your friends, friend was looking down her nose at your DGs names. I'm sure she is of a certain age where being a "showgirl" was not considered a respectable profession and therefore was being rude.

maxslice · Yesterday 21:58

Calliopespa · Yesterday 20:52

I think, given one of the names is Lola and not Christine or Annie or Maria, that probably wasn't the sort of show she was thinking of, and for that reason I think it was a bit loose-lipped.

Lola is heavily associated with both the Barry Manilow song "with a dress cut down to here" and also Nabokov's Lolita ("she was Lola in slacks").

BUT, it is a popular name nonetheless, as is Ruby (though I know fewer Roxys) and I think if the girls were called something like Eliza, Lola and Amelia, it probably wouldn't even have stirred the connection.

Lolita’s given name was Charlotte, which obviously doesn’t cary the same associations.

grasshopperhop · Yesterday 22:01

Rizzz · Yesterday 18:15

So they were right then.

Showgirl names 🤷‍♂️

Yep. Sorry OP.

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 22:06

VioletSeagull · Yesterday 21:21

"'That was my Lo,' she said, 'and these are my lilies.'"

Though she was Lola in slacks.

Memory does not always serve well.

SUPerSaver721 · Yesterday 22:08

Ellenay · Yesterday 17:59

So, I have 5 grandchildren, this weekend I’m looking after all of them, my daughter and her husband are away to a wedding in France and my son and his wife have booked a little spa weekend.

I popped in to see some of my friends with them as I don’t often have the children and my friends like seeing them.

One of my friends had some other friends I’ve not met before over but we joined them. After introducing the children and then being sent to the kitchen to get a lollipop, one of these friends said oh don’t all the girls have little showgirl names, I must have looked a bit shocked as someone else then jumped in and said oh she doesn’t mean p*rnstar just very moulin rouge.

I just said I thought their names were lovely and moved on but now I’m back home I’m furious, I’m furious I didn’t give her a piece of my mind.

AIBU to think this is an absurd thing to say about children’s names?!

Is Roxy and Ruby twins?

ThePieceHall · Yesterday 22:08

This thread is making me fed up. So much middle-class snobbishness about names. It’s particularly offensive when posters pipe up with ‘I know a dog by that name’. So rude. As far as I’m concerned, the other person in OP’s original post was being snobby and offensive. I’m an adoptive parent twice over so I did not get to choose my children’s names. I get so many patronising and offensive comments about my children’s names. Every day. I am so glad that major companies are now doing blind recruiting for jobs. My children may not be called Elspeth but they have value in this world.