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To be upset about meat being cooked in my house

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Meetmeinlove · Yesterday 16:09

For context, I am 53 and a lifelong vegetarian. I have never cooked meat or eaten meat.

I was always clear with my kids that if they wanted to eat meat, it was their choice but it had to be out of the house. Put simply, I don’t want it in my house.

They both eat meat and I am ok with that.

But I came home and they have cooked it- used my wooden chopping board to cut it up. Left remnants on the worksurface.

i’m bloody upset and it feels so disrespectful frankly. It’s a real problem for me- I don’t want meat in my house- I have always been really clear about it.

aibu to be so upset about it? It’s a real problem for me.

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VestibuleWeaver · Today 18:08

FloozingThePlot · Today 18:05

Late to the thread. I've been vegetarian for 25+ years and my home is meat / fish free. I'd also be very unimpressed in your shoes. People are focusing on this being about food and missing that it is actually about ethics.

And why should someone’s ethics be imposed upon another?

TheAzurePeer · Today 18:09

StripyShirt · Today 17:58

Most vegans and vegetarians would say that eating meat is extreme.

Think about it: Animals are bred, housed, slaughtered (in fear and pain, I must add), and processed in a huge global industry, contributing to climate change and destroying the sea bed and its ecosystem just because they taste nice. There is no need for any of it.

See this is the problem. Your holier than thou, smug, superior attitude. It does a huge disservice to all vegetarians and vegetarianism.

Vegetarianism as a general rule is healthier. As a nation most of us don’t eat enough vegetables. Eating vegetarian 2 or 3 times a week would make us a healthier nation. And as I said would help in the cost of living crisis - meat is expensive.

I’ve been to a Michelin starred vegetarian restaurant and would defy any meat eater to eat there and say they missed meat.

But every time the morally superior types say things like meat is murder and falsely claim all animal slaughter involves pain and suffering (been to an abbatoir, saw pigs getting slaughtered 6 feet in front of me - they had absolutely no idea what was happening).

You should try and approach this positively - it’s cheaper, healthier, you should advocate for higher welfare meat rather than processed shite. You’d advance vegetarianism much more. Your current approach switches people off. Similar to religion, people don’t like it”shoved down their throat”. Switches them off.

But na, you feel much better about yourself by talking about how you’re so morally superior to the rest of us don’t you?

Stelladid · Today 18:14

Of course you are not being unreasonable. They can eat meat out of your house. Only devoted carnivores could say you are being unreasonable. As for those saying “it’s their house too”. Does that mean they let their kids do anything in their houses no matter how they feel about it.

Worriednanof1 · Today 18:16

TheAzurePeer · Today 18:09

See this is the problem. Your holier than thou, smug, superior attitude. It does a huge disservice to all vegetarians and vegetarianism.

Vegetarianism as a general rule is healthier. As a nation most of us don’t eat enough vegetables. Eating vegetarian 2 or 3 times a week would make us a healthier nation. And as I said would help in the cost of living crisis - meat is expensive.

I’ve been to a Michelin starred vegetarian restaurant and would defy any meat eater to eat there and say they missed meat.

But every time the morally superior types say things like meat is murder and falsely claim all animal slaughter involves pain and suffering (been to an abbatoir, saw pigs getting slaughtered 6 feet in front of me - they had absolutely no idea what was happening).

You should try and approach this positively - it’s cheaper, healthier, you should advocate for higher welfare meat rather than processed shite. You’d advance vegetarianism much more. Your current approach switches people off. Similar to religion, people don’t like it”shoved down their throat”. Switches them off.

But na, you feel much better about yourself by talking about how you’re so morally superior to the rest of us don’t you?

Stating facts does not equate to being smug and superior. Get over yourself.

PebbleBeAPenguin · Today 18:17

of course not , it's not even a debate , your house your kitchen your utensils and so on ..

Worriednanof1 · Today 18:17

TheAzurePeer · Today 16:51

No. I note you didn’t rebut a single point but no doubt think your propaganda slogan is terribly clever. Kindly F off. I was trying to be reasonable too!

How rude & you didn't answer my question.

TheAzurePeer · Today 18:17

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JustAQuestion12 · Today 18:20

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That's a really unpleasant tone. If you're getting that bothered by the comments of a stranger it's time to step back for a bit. You can't police what people comment on

TheAzurePeer · Today 18:26

JustAQuestion12 · Today 18:20

That's a really unpleasant tone. If you're getting that bothered by the comments of a stranger it's time to step back for a bit. You can't police what people comment on

Says the person trying to police my comments on a public forum? I’ll post where I want thanks. You don’t need to read them if you don’t like it.

Newname29 · Today 18:28

Chocolattecoffeecup · Today 17:35

What would the correct chopping boards be? OP doesn't cook meat so doesn't have them.

Absolutely no idea. Not my house! Surely OP would be able to work that out for herself. We use different coloured ones in my house

Bingowings100 · Today 18:32

You are the parent and should want the best for your children so them eating nutritionally dense food like meat is the best thing for them. It's the natural human diet. It's what made our brains develop. So acting like a child when they cook their food is extremely immature. I would be so happy if my kids cooked for themselves. I certainly wouldn't get all petty and hysterical. They are your values, not theirs.

AlexStocks · Today 18:33

I was veg for ages. This feels a bit like the vegetarian who SAYS it's ok to eat meat and then silently judges you. If you wash you wooden boards and such and disinfect them as you should, there's no problem. Even better to have the kids clean and disinfect the stuff. Problem solved!

JustAQuestion12 · Today 18:33

TheAzurePeer · Today 18:26

Says the person trying to police my comments on a public forum? I’ll post where I want thanks. You don’t need to read them if you don’t like it.

Kind of proving my point.

TheAzurePeer · Today 18:34

JustAQuestion12 · Today 18:33

Kind of proving my point.

Do tell my love?

JJWT · Today 18:34

You have no right at all to tell someone what they can and can not eat in their home, that they have bought with their own money. Its your shared home. You cannot dictate. Would you force them to spend THEIR money on non leather shoes? Either its a shared home, or it isn't a suitable place for over 18s to live alongside you. You can ban guns, drugs, stolen goods, porn with animals or underage people as stated in law, but meat is perfectly legal. All of this is assuming they are not still children. However they ought to consider your feelings and clean up promptly as a courtesy, open windows/put the extractor on. I really don't think you can ban meat.

JustAQuestion12 · Today 18:35

TheAzurePeer · Today 18:34

Do tell my love?

I have no idea why you feel the need to write with such aggression or passive aggression. I won't be replying to you any further.

Worriednanof1 · Today 18:35

TheAzurePeer · Today 18:34

Do tell my love?

You sound so unpleasant, what is your problem?! Nasty piece of work incapable of having an adult conversation, just resorting to childish abuse.

FourSevenFive · Today 18:36

Stelladid · Today 18:14

Of course you are not being unreasonable. They can eat meat out of your house. Only devoted carnivores could say you are being unreasonable. As for those saying “it’s their house too”. Does that mean they let their kids do anything in their houses no matter how they feel about it.

Where can a 14 yo boy realistically eat meat on his own?
Mcdonalds, kebab, supermarket sandwich? Great options ...
So much better than being able to put together his own sandwich at home with a slice of ham/bacon. /irony

cmonspring · Today 18:38

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 16:15

It’s also your children’s home
YABU

This

confusedcrane · Today 18:42

Persephonia1966 · Today 17:50

But your mum not letting you have fruit was bad. This mum not letting her kids have meat is deemed OK because you and other posters don't like meat. I agree it is different if your mum was substituting cake etc for the fruit as that's unhealthy. But honestly, just banning fruit as a food group doesn't have to be unhealthy, you can get all the vitamins you would get from fruit from other sources. But, cakes aside, a mum who refuses to even let her kids have fruit in the house because it's her house, her boundaries is controlling even if she "lets" them eat fruit elsewhere. I bet if the poster was talking about fruit you would be more likely to agree. It's just that because you don't want to eat meat you can't imagine being a teenager who does.

Edited

I'm not going to get into my personal situation as it would require such a long explanation and the thread is nearly full. It's not really relevant to the issue either because my mum was abusive. OP is not abusing her children based on the information given. I can appreciate your last post but I feel like you're seizing on something else I've said that's backtracking into territory that I'm not interested in engaging with further.

Rpop · Today 18:55

Catza · Yesterday 16:11

It's not the meat that's the issue here, it's the fact that your children disrespected your wishes. This is what I would be focusing on when speaking to them, otherwise they will just tell you that you are being irrational.

Edited

Although remnants of meat being left out and using a wooden chopping board could be really silly (depending on the type of meat and whether it was raw when chopped).

so it is both disrespectful and also potentially unwise. Sounds like they might need meat prep lessons.

NewFrock · Today 19:01

Most vegans and vegetarians would say that eating meat is extreme

Given that 75% of the population are meat eaters it's hardly extreme.
Vegetarians are not 'extreme' either.
Some people think vegans are going a bit extreme, so I've heard.

There is no need for any of it

Meat is the only foodstuff that eskimos can get their vitamin C from.
Course, nowadays there's the fizzy tablets.

LemonLake · Today 19:01

Jesus some of the comments people are making on here are ridiculous. You are clearly not controlling or starving your kids. There’s so many options for healthy and nutritious veggie meals out there these days. I’m a bit squeamish about preparing meat myself, so I usually make veg meals when it’s my turn to cook.

I think it’s commendable that you haven’t forced your dietary restrictions on your kids, and have allowed them to make their own choices. Also I don’t
think it’s unreasonable for you not wanting meat prepped in or eaten under your roof. I guess if this keeps happening the only compromise I’d suggest is maybe buying a chopping board, knife and cheap frying pan/pot that is solely used for meat prep. But it’s your house and your prerogative!

Mlamla · Today 19:01

I was a vegetarian for like a decade or more and I'd hate to see the meat in my house,but I was young and without children. My house is their house and if they want meat they can have it in their house,and cook it even better because it means they are making real food and not eating processed shit. And also they can track the source and at least buy and cook free range or organic. The only thing to be upset about is if they don't clean after cooking it and share the chopping boards etc .... Otherwise I see no issue here you have some independent young adults taking care of themselves.good for them!

RufustheFactualReindeer · Today 19:02

NewFrock · Today 16:17

From personal experience (and as here) there are a lot of judgemental attitudes even between vegans and vegetarians. You get some who think we should all function the same as a unit without any variation so they get upset you aren't vegetarian like they are vegetarian, and it can come out similar to prejudice from non-veggies. I've had others flip their lid at me because I'm not veggie enough or too veggie for their taste

Really? I've never been judged for my preferred choice of food, not to my face anyway, and not by friends or acquaintances. Flipping their lids because you're not veggie enough, or too veggie? Vegans and vegetarians at odds with each other? How can you be a different type of vegetarian, and why would anybody be bothered let alone flip their lids? I think this might be a unique experience.

No its not