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To be upset about meat being cooked in my house

638 replies

Meetmeinlove · Today 16:09

For context, I am 53 and a lifelong vegetarian. I have never cooked meat or eaten meat.

I was always clear with my kids that if they wanted to eat meat, it was their choice but it had to be out of the house. Put simply, I don’t want it in my house.

They both eat meat and I am ok with that.

But I came home and they have cooked it- used my wooden chopping board to cut it up. Left remnants on the worksurface.

i’m bloody upset and it feels so disrespectful frankly. It’s a real problem for me- I don’t want meat in my house- I have always been really clear about it.

aibu to be so upset about it? It’s a real problem for me.

OP posts:
Limeandfigs · Today 16:32

It was rude and disrespectful of them not to clean up properly after themselves.

You're being overly controlling however by dictating they can never cook or eat meat in their own house.

Buy them or get them to buy a separate set of utensils, chopping boards, pans etc and let them crack on.

Lexibletheflexible · Today 16:32

Meetmeinlove · Today 16:27

We do eat a ln extremely wide and varied diet at home- it’s not like I am starving them. It just doesn’t include meat. Nor is it about it not being a home for them.

I think maybe it’s really hard to explain to people who eat meat.

Am not trying to make it some illicit thing either. It would be a massive thing for me- I don’t even want it in my fridge.

I don’t think it’s particularly weird - it’s just never been a part of my life at all.

Get them a mini fridge for meat

VestibuleWeaver · Today 16:32

Meetmeinlove · Today 16:21

Maybe it’s really hard for people who aren’t life long veggies to understand but that isn’t my view of meat.

My kids eat it and I never stopped them from doing that and gave them the choice themselves.

I just don’t want it cooked in my house.

Even a committed vegetarian could surely understand that early humans survived mostly on meat for thousands of years, until agriculture was developed. So, by definition, it is a natural source of nutrition that humans are well-adapted to. And, there can be no question that, pound for pound, it contains more nutrients than plant-based foods. Or would you deny these facts?

Meetmeinlove · Today 16:33

LeaderBee · Today 16:28

What are they supposed to do while they aren't old enough to move out and support themselves? Never eat meat?

Fair enough, I appreciate your beliefs about not wanting to eat it yourself, whether its ethical reasons or something else... but wouldn't a separate dedicated chopping board go some way to a compromise?

Well, learn how to cook it themselves. Jesus Christ- people make it sound like somehow they will starve if they can’t cook meat.

They can both cook well because I have taught them. But just not meat.

I didn’t learn how to make a veggie curry from my mum- I learnt myself from a cookbook.

OP posts:
Walkerzoo · Today 16:34

I expected you to say they were 20.

At 14.... Hmm. Nio. It is their home too?

Meetmeinlove · Today 16:34

VestibuleWeaver · Today 16:32

Even a committed vegetarian could surely understand that early humans survived mostly on meat for thousands of years, until agriculture was developed. So, by definition, it is a natural source of nutrition that humans are well-adapted to. And, there can be no question that, pound for pound, it contains more nutrients than plant-based foods. Or would you deny these facts?

Genuinely can’t be arsed to debate that with you.

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LondonLass2026 · Today 16:34

At the very least they are more than old enough to clean up properly, and I hope they used the correct chopping board.

However, they are being forced into vegetarianism. At least at home. How do they feel about that? I'm all for kids being told what's what, but this is a bit of a grey one.

Nobg · Today 16:34

Op have you asked WHY they suddenly out the blue disobeyed this rule of your so flagrantly. Like they WANTED you to know that they were ignoring the rule??

C152 · Today 16:34

This is a very extreme view, OP. If you lived alone, it would be fine, but you don't. And it's not really giving the 14 year old a 'choice' to say they can eat meat elsewhere - school lunch is hardly going to be a quality meal. And even if the 18 year old is working and can buy their own food, you're telling them they can't even cook it at home? Where do you expect them to cook?

It's very reasonable to say they have to use a specific chopping board/pan (and I would think this is extreme too, but doable - different cutlery and put all meat in a sealed container in the fridge), and they must clean up after themselves, but to impose your restricted eating choice - which IS what you're doing - on others does seem unfair and unreasonable.

Whaleandsnail6 · Today 16:34

I'm a vegetarian and I think yabu

You keep saying its your home.

Well Its your kids home as well and its very restrictive to enforce your personal dietary preferences on them.

Ok, they should clean the kitchen and buy a separate chopping board if they do cook meat, but other than that ,I think if they fancy meat on their own home, they should be able to cook it

Bitzee · Today 16:34

I think maybe it’s really hard to explain to people who eat meat.

You’re making quite an assumption there that anyone not understanding/agreeing with you eats meat and therefore couldn’t possibly understand it. FWIW I don’t eat meat and I still think you’re being massively unreasonable to ban it from your home, when it’s also their home and you’re not even in the house when they’re cooking/eating it. Although I’ll concede that it was disrespectful of them to leave a mess behind, in general but also knowing how you feel about meat. But that’s teens for you. Leave no trace, using a separate board and knife would be reasonable compromise.

ZanyMaker · Today 16:34

Are they allowed to bring meat into the house if already cooked/doesn’t need cooking? Eg. a packet of ham for a sandwich? Just wondering if it’s the cooking of raw meat you are dead set against or meat being in the house in totality.

Granted, my question above is slightly irrelevant to your OP. I think they are being disrespectful to your views, but I also think you are being unreasonably set in your view. I think as long as they clean up properly and wash the pans then they should have some leeway.

VestibuleWeaver · Today 16:35

Meetmeinlove · Today 16:34

Genuinely can’t be arsed to debate that with you.

Good, because you would lose such a debate.

outerspacepotato · Today 16:35

I don't think you can ban meat from your home when your kids who live there are meat eaters and one of them is a minor. That's forcing them to follow your diet when they don't agree with it.

What you can do is get them a dorm style small fridge for their meat and their own prep board and knife for meat and insist they clean up after.

They shouldn't be prepping meat on boards used for vegetables anyway. Meat should have its own board.

I'm a long time vegetarian, one of my kids is also and one eats meat. I would not ban meat in the home. They can eat what they want.

Nobg · Today 16:35

Once you saw the chopping board, did you immediately log on to Mumsnet OR did you talk to your kids? If the latter, how did the conversation go?

Balloonhearts · Today 16:35

At 18, it's their decision and not being able to cook in their own home is ridiculous. Its not just your home.

rwalker · Today 16:35

There bang out of order not tidying
but this is there home
at 14 they’ll have no choice but to live with you and the 18year old will have very limited options
lording it over them with the it’s my house us a shit thing to do
chances are the problem will sort itself eventually because they’ll be want to leave your home at the first opportunity

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · Today 16:36

Well what did they say?
Sorry but we desperately wanted some meat? Or more like - We're fed up with your rules and we're not obeying them any more?
Or something else? Because it's all a bunch of very different scenarios.
And I say this as someone who used to be veggie, who brought up 2 veggie children, and now of the three of us I eat both meat and fish, one dc eats fish but not meat and the other one meat but not fish. They're both adults with their own households and families now btw.

aberamagold · Today 16:36

NotMajorTom · Today 16:31

It’s not your house!

you keep throwing that in like it gives you the right to dictate something like this. It doesnt

its their house too. They should treat it with respect, use separate utensils etc but fundamentally you can’t just stamp your feet and say its your house

They are children. They don't have a 'right' to do whatever they like in their parents' house.

This is something that's very important to the OP. Of course she has the right to dictate the rules in her own house! A family is not a democracy. Children don't get a vote.

H202too · Today 16:36

hugasaurus · Today 16:16

Ugh I hate when people pull the ’my home’ shit with kids. Our home is exactly that, ours.

Agree! Yes they should have cleaned up but you sound very controlling. I say this as a vegan.

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Today 16:37

aberamagold · Today 16:36

They are children. They don't have a 'right' to do whatever they like in their parents' house.

This is something that's very important to the OP. Of course she has the right to dictate the rules in her own house! A family is not a democracy. Children don't get a vote.

No, she can't dictate what her children eat in their own home - that way bat-shittery lies.

Gowlett · Today 16:37

I agree with you, OP. No meat. That simple.

My Dad is vegetarian. Whole swathes of society are vegetarian. They aren’t aliens! Not wanting meat in your home is 100% fine.

Bitzee · Today 16:37

Nobg · Today 16:31

What is weird is that one Friday afternoon after always respecting your rule they suddenly
Get together and basically say “let’s cook up a meat storm and leave mum to find the remains of it”

which is weird

Edited

Just because they’ve never been caught before doesn’t mean they’ve always respected the rule. This could very well be a weekly thing for them when mum goes out but this time they rushed the clean up 🤷‍♀️

Soontobe60 · Today 16:37

Forcing your ideological beliefs on others is never on. Even worse that you’re restricting your DCs diet. It’s their home too!

IStillHearTheWaves · Today 16:38

Meetmeinlove · Today 16:11

14 and 18. So old enough to know, to understand. It’s been their whole lives.

Maybe they're sick of it being of it being their whole lives - isn't it their house too?

Unreasonable of them to leave remnants though - they should clean up after themselves. Perhaps buy them separately utensils if it offends you to that extent?