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Feel like I have failed after GS failed every GCSE

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CuddlyBears · 20/08/2026 23:13

First post on MN please be kind. Some context

When my DD was 13 she got pregnant, she didn't really show at all and she was they thought 28/29 weeks gone. I still wonder how no one knew, not me, not her school, not anyone. DD’s behaviour had changed from the beginning of year 8, she was more snappy and moodier and honestly off the rails. I begged for help from school but nothing happened, she was excluded from school and we didn't have mum and daughter days anymore or anything

I wasn't even angry I was more shocked than anything. She was too far gone for an abortion. Prior to this nothing changed in her life to cause this she just fell into a trap after meeting her bf. He was the year above but only months older so nothing was done as they were both underage having sex and dd made it clear she wasn't coerced

She gave birth about 8 weeks after she found out and he was tiny but healthy and I've raised him since then, I got a guardianship order (i think that’s the name forgive me if not im exhausted).

I don’t want to make this thread long and unreadable so will reply to questions but his behaviour is awful tbh, he vapes and smokes weed often, steals alcohol, selfharms, is rude and disrespectful to me, he spends almost all of his time gaming on his PC and doesnt really go out. His room is disgusting the one time he did go out (the other week) I went in his room and found 2 bottles of his wee and when i confronted him later on and told him how disgusting it was he was just like “oh well you shouldn’t have gone in my room then”.

He got his gcse results today and he already was in a terrible mood because i had woken him up to go get them. He came back and threw them at me unopened and went back to bed. He’s failed everything. He mostly got 1s and 2s but he also got a U it says he got 3 marks across 3 papers on that one.

I’m upset and disappointed he doesnt care I went to talk to him and he was ignoring me so I turned his PC off and honestly that gave a bigger reaction than him finding out he failed everything. I didn’t expect him to get the top grades or even pass everything just something at least. I feel like I’ve failed him and yes this is probably the tip of the iceberg but seeing parents today saying about how well their children have done even on the radio I heard it. I feel like such a shit parent because it does feel like im his parent really rather than his grandparent

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Thelakeisle26 · 21/08/2026 03:00

Was she taking drugs and drinking when pregnant? This can irrepairably harm a baby's neurodevelopment. You've fed him and kept him as safe as you can. That's not nothing.

Get some counselling for yourself please, you have been through a lot. And stop worrying about his exam results, they are the least of his worries. Some kids will never do well in exams, but can find other pathways in life anyway.

Talk to the counsellor about his problems and see if a professional can offer suggestions to you. I'd book a therapist today, without hyperbole.

Thelakeisle26 · 21/08/2026 03:05

And by the way, he is still very young. His life path is not set in stone yet. You need to learn ways to cope that will stop depleting and harming you so much. You've done well to make it this far. Please get some counselling for yourself.

Apart from actually harmful behaviours, you might just have to step back and let him fail until he makes the decision to start trying, because you can't carry him up the hill, even if you wanted to.

excitedfortea · 21/08/2026 03:23

ChickenBananaBanana · 21/08/2026 00:11

TBF what did you expect? Sell the PC.

Such an unhelpful comment. Have some kindness or don’t comment at all.

the7Vabo · 21/08/2026 03:56

Thelakeisle26 · 21/08/2026 03:05

And by the way, he is still very young. His life path is not set in stone yet. You need to learn ways to cope that will stop depleting and harming you so much. You've done well to make it this far. Please get some counselling for yourself.

Apart from actually harmful behaviours, you might just have to step back and let him fail until he makes the decision to start trying, because you can't carry him up the hill, even if you wanted to.

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I don’t agree with this. Firstly, in terms of turning this around he’s not that young. We are not talking about a cheeky 8 year old.

He may never make a decision to start trying, id wager many don’t. Look at the lives of many homeless people.

I agree that counselling would be great for Op.

I also think I’d try to pull any resource in I can, teachers etc but may be difficult if GS won’t engage.

I assume there are charities that can offer advice.

Maybe start with - this is my house, ground rules - you do not swear at me etc
And stop giving him money if he doesn’t behave.

Thelakeisle26 · 21/08/2026 03:59

the7Vabo · 21/08/2026 03:56

I don’t agree with this. Firstly, in terms of turning this around he’s not that young. We are not talking about a cheeky 8 year old.

He may never make a decision to start trying, id wager many don’t. Look at the lives of many homeless people.

I agree that counselling would be great for Op.

I also think I’d try to pull any resource in I can, teachers etc but may be difficult if GS won’t engage.

I assume there are charities that can offer advice.

Maybe start with - this is my house, ground rules - you do not swear at me etc
And stop giving him money if he doesn’t behave.

No, he is still very young. That's just a fact. I didn't suggest he was a cheeky 8 year old.

Yes, he might never choose to fix his life. Nothing she can do about that unless he wants to work on it.

She needs counselling before she can even start trying to put boundaries in place. Far too complex and too many threads to pull at in a comment. And she has already sought help, without success, which is why I said she should speak to a counsellor for herself first and foremost.

the7Vabo · 21/08/2026 04:11

Thelakeisle26 · 21/08/2026 03:59

No, he is still very young. That's just a fact. I didn't suggest he was a cheeky 8 year old.

Yes, he might never choose to fix his life. Nothing she can do about that unless he wants to work on it.

She needs counselling before she can even start trying to put boundaries in place. Far too complex and too many threads to pull at in a comment. And she has already sought help, without success, which is why I said she should speak to a counsellor for herself first and foremost.

He’s very young in the scheme of life but he’s clearly not young in terms of his childhood. If he was 8 the Op would have a lot more time to play with to turn things around. He’s presumably 15/16, I wouldn’t encourage the OP to give up, quite the opposite but it’s going to be a difficult task to turn that ship around.

XigDoop · 21/08/2026 04:17

I'm sorry you're going through this op. Your grandson needs some help to deal with the trauma of being abandoned by his parents. You probably need some help too.

Renamedyetagain · 21/08/2026 04:55

Don't know enough about it all to make an informed comment. But the kid should've had emotional support from the start. His mum needs to step up and show she gives a shit as well.

Relationship with his dad - he needs professional help to work through complex emotions.

And you need to stop being passive...i feel like a total bitch when I ground them/lock screentime down/refuse permission for certain things due to attitude/rudeness/disobedience. But ground rules stand, respect is non negotiable. I know where they are and for how long, who they are with. My 16 yr old knows exactly where the boundaries are and, now she's older, we are relaxing them a little much to the chagrin of the 14 and 12 yo.

You're in charge. But professional intervention first as this hasnt happened at any point. I dont mean to make you feel bad, but it's a repeated cycle. Why does he have unlimited access to gaming? Take it away. Make him deep clean the room. Tell him things are changing round here. No more disrespect and time to start taking responsibility for his life. Tough love.

Seajaye · 21/08/2026 05:08

It seems you and he have been shouldering ongoing problems for many years.

Life hasn't really treated him well in childhood has it?

His GCSE results have just brought his subconscious cry for help to the surface. I suspect he feels ( rightly) that neither his mother nor father actually cares about him, and he feels rejected by them and has become a loner and is in deep severe depression but in denial.. it is common for depressed people to push j people away.

Failing all his GSCEs, and not seeming to care seems to be an obvious huge cry for help. But he needs help and support of the right kind and doesn't seem to be getting any.

Why hasn't he have a social worker ?
what did his parents do for him when he was growing up?. Why didn't you daughter / his mother take responsibility for him when she became an adult?
Did he meet all the normal milestones at the correct age. In terms of walking taking reading and writing and social skills.?
Does he have learning difficulties that haven't been identified.?
Does he actually have any friends or outdoor hobbies?
What advice and support have the school given him?

There are children's mental health charities out there that might be able to offer counselling in a safe young person's environment, and find him a support worker.and might be able to help him see a way out of a black hole, .in conjunction with GP/NHS intervention might help him get back on track but it is going to take time.and professional intervention.

He needs to be assured to eat that there is different kinds help out there and that you care and that his mother cares about him as a person,. Don't focus on his GCSE right now as he has bigger issues to deal with as he enters adulthood

He will eventually need to resit English and Maths to get an apprenticeship. Get some advice from the school on opportunities for extra help for resitting either at school and at other educational establishment . find out what options he has and try to engage him in participation. .his mother and father also need to take some responsibility here. Neither have been a good role model. and haven't shown enough interest in him, let alone affection ..don't give up on him otherwise he may give up.on himself...

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/08/2026 05:28

It sounds as if your dgs has some quite, and understandably, complex issues with his mental health. My dd is mentally unwell and it is incredibly difficult. She’s 18 and we have had 2 years of pulling her round. She is getting better, but anxious and highly resistant.

We are using someone privately, who is very highly trained in mh. The first thing she got us to do 2 years ago, and when she was the same age, was to connect with dd.

I would suggest that you do the same with your dgs. Lots of love bombing, connection, trying to entice him away from the computer. He’s going to object, probably tell you to fuck off and he hates you. The response to stuff like that is, it’s ok, I love you. And I have enough love for the 2 of us. Try to dip into his world. Would he watch a film with you. Or play a game. This is the first stage that I would do, because it’s re-establishing connection. And with connection, you have something to work with.

And at the same time, put the boundaries in. What are the boundaries? You need your write some really simple rules, which you write down and present to him. And not too many right now, otherwise he is unlikely to comply. Find maybe four or something. So pick the ones, which are most needed. Put a copy on the fridge. And write on this that you will turn off the WiFi at x time. You’ve got an almighty battle coming.

WRT going to college, it sounds as if he won’t do anything willingly, or be told. You’re just going to need to sew seeds here. If you find the information about which local college would accept him and possible courses, then you could suggest something to him. Try to find a moment, when he is calm and available to connect and just say something like, I’ve seen x college is offering course an and b (check availability first). It starts on y date in September. What do you think? Then leave him, come back to him a couple of days later. Tackle it lovingly. Ask him if he’s thought about the college stuff.

Have you ever told you dgs that he may be your grandson, but your love for him is one of mother to him? That to you, he will always be your son. And you love him to the moon and back. I am just thinking, perhaps a key to his feelings, is to allow him to feel how he does about the rejection from his birth parents (effectively this is an adoption situation in all but name). I just think it would be useful if he could see himself as a person, inside your little bubble.

Have you spoken to him about how his parents are with him? How he feels about that? That it’s ok to be hurt or not to like them. And very importantly, you need to be putting your hurt to one side for all that. The hurt from him and from your dd. And you’re going to need some counselling yourself as has been mentioned, to be able to really park your feelings and not let them spill into your relationship with your dgs. So that you can remain loving and calm.

The reaction your dd has had to this all would make me think she’s also very hurt, that she wasn’t given what she needed emotionally either, when she gave birth to that tiny dot. Did you just take over and she fell into the background? I’m wondering if she felt very rejected. 13 is a very tricky age from a brain development perspective and it seems there there was some quite black and white thinking, that she’s take forward. That one is even trickier due to her age. And she’s a grown woman now.

Are you the sort of person, who just gets on with it and doesn’t give out much love? Because if you’ve been this way, due to some very tricky circumstances, this is how things have ended up this way. And you are the parent. And the changes come from you first.

And please, get all the support you can from a social worker, from mh charities. And anyone, who will listen, including the school, who may have some ideas for you. If you can find someone at school, who is interested in his wellbeing, that could be a starting point today.

Positivenegativity7 · 21/08/2026 05:29

My goodness this sounds like an absolute nightmare and I'm sorry your going through it.
First thing I want to say is GCSE results barely get any recognition after your 20's and can be re-sat if needed.
I can relate to your grandson- in a way-not all ways as I was never as disrespectful to my parents or did anything like pee in bottles, but i got kicked out anyway.
I am asking you to step into your grandsons shoes for a while, your bought into this world by little more than a child who had absolutely no intent of being a mother- nor should you at that age-but showing some kind of interest in the child you made would be, natural but by what i have understood reading your post never happened.
Perceived rejection from an early age is confusing for a ypung child-tgey will persume they are at fault or unlovable as I feel has happened here. You said that your daughter has had more children and lives and takes care of them but has very little to do with your grandson, this will just be more evidence to him that there is something wrong with him. He will feel like he isnt good enough and feel totally excluded from your daughter's life again, so this is where the self harm and drug taking comes into play, I was self harming due to my mental health issues and family problems which I couldn't understand at the age of 15-16. I thought it was my fault, that I was "bad" so went totally off the rails not unlike your grandson, smoked a lot of weed, drank to access did other drugs. Shoplifted got arrested multiple times and it was all just a cry gor help.
Your grandson is lost, and is hurting. He takes it out on you because he has no one else and by the sounds of it your the only constant thing in his life, the comment he made about his dad trying suicide came from a place of dispair and hurt, he probably felt this was something to do with how low he is so he lashed out and put a front on.
Unfortunately he won't accept help because he cannot face the reality of his life, he has lost all ability to see a future for himself and this should be a massive issue for the mental health people you have tried to access because in my experience you don't care if your future ever comes meaning he is in danger of taking his life, or his behaviour could end his life. Ether way, he has lost hope of a decent life.
Do you know who he calls his friends?, Are they trouble makers?. Can you access his gaming console? Another thing to be aware of is what he us seeing online! Could the things he is seeing be making him worse?.
I can understand how hard this is for you, but please think about how this kid must feel too, empathy is used everywhere online these days but no one seems to practice it. There are online groups that help with drug taking in young people. FRANK is a good option, education on this matter is important if you want to talk to your grandson about why he is smoking weed but in my experience its to get some relief from his life, and could be why his sleeping pattern is so off.
I hear a lot of things that point to depression, and if he is feeling the way I think he may be, smoking weed will make things 100 times worse (even if you think it chills you out the thc can make psychotic symptoms appear or worsern).
Please stick by him, he has such a mixed up life that an adult would have trouble making scene of it let alone a boy, he is scared, he needs you more than ever because everyone else has let him down or seemingly rejected him. Don't worry to much about the exam results but please keep on at your g.p. any services that are aimed at children and teens and badger the heck out of them!.
Look after yourself too!. You have not failed!! Everyone else around this lad has, please use empathy and show him as much kindness as ypu can without becoming a doormat. Sending you strength and love xx

babyproblems · 21/08/2026 05:31

Well he has had a hugely dysfunctional start in life and it sounds like you have allowed him to coast along rather than force him to make good choices. It doesn’t sound like he knows what a good choice would be. The PC can go in the bin. You’ve left it very late to tackle this sort of behaviour now; Has he ever had counseling or similar? What is his relationship like with his mum now? This is huge trauma that rears its head all through life.

babyproblems · 21/08/2026 05:38

Sorry but having read all of your posts; your daughter has taken absolutely zero responsibility for her actions by the sounds of it. Are you serious that she has other children who live with her??? Yet she never took back her own son? That is shocking to me. In your shoes I would have cut her off over that; at least then your grandson would have felt someone was on his side. All you’ve done has validated her behavior and he will feel that you support what she has done to him. Which is abandon him. I suspect he has deep rejection issues which is not surprising given his mothers and fathers behaviour. You sound very relaxed about it all.. in your shoes I would have cut my daughter off for this series of actions probably. I am not surprised your GS doesn’t want to spend time with her and ‘his siblings’ - can you imagine how that must feel for him???? You don’t seem to get that

MrsVBS · 21/08/2026 05:39

I’m not sure why you are shocked, your GS sounds like a nightmare so he’s not going to go from doing all those things to getting straight A’s so it can’t have been a complete shock. That aside you’re in a horrible position and he clearly needs help, you need to go back to GP and say you are at breaking point.

Mixymaxymoxy · 21/08/2026 06:01

Poor kid, rejected repeatedly by both his crappy parents.

Whats the bigger picture OP?

Are there any family members that he has a relationship with ? Grandads, uncles, cousins? Is there anyone other than you who has time for him ?
What was he like at school ? What have his teachers said over the years ? Does he have any diagnoses or health conditions ? His poor grafes can’t have come out of no where, so what were you doing to help him work towards them ?
What are his friends like ?
What hobbies / activities does /did he enjoy growing up ?
Have you and he ever had any counselling together? Did you talk to him about his parents

And this is hard to ask but… what are you like as a parent ? Are you strict or soft ? Are you a loving and involved mother or a disappointed and exhausted grandmother ? What age were you when you took on your grandson? Did you try to get your DD to stay involved with him? Do you have a husband / partner ? Is your DDs father around? Do you have any other children ? How’s your own health / life etc?

So many questions, but your story pretty much jumps from him being born to failing his exams: it’s everything that happened in between that he’s led him here.

VashtaNerada · 21/08/2026 06:01

What a tough situation for you both. There is some good advice on here about getting back in touch with social services / GP as well as some decent suggestions of ways to get through to him.
Please ignore the responses that lack empathy. It’s very easy to be smug when you’ve had a good life and are lucky enough to have relatively easy DC. The reality is that some people just do have it harder than others.

menopausequeen · 21/08/2026 06:02

Don’t worry too much about the GCSE results. There’s lots of other opportunities out there like apprenticeship or more practical courses.
The post explaining what his dm has done since having him as nd his relationship with his df is probably worth more concern. They are both wrong to behave the way they have and your gs needs to know you also think it’s wrong and he’s not been treated fairly and that you chose him and you love him.
Try some different charities to get advice like Young Minds, Family Action etc etc. Tell the GP you need a referral to CAMHS. Be your gs biggest advocate.

Sillyme1 · 21/08/2026 06:06

I too wonder where his mother is in all this. She she must now be in her 20s, an adult and ultimately it is her responsibility to manage his upbringing and behaviour. I was 25 when I had my first child and 28 the second and was expected to cope. Sounds like you have done your best, I hate this assumption that there is always something wrong at home to make a child go off the rails. Peers, media, school and society in general all have a huge part in how a child turns out. Don’t beat yourself up, things are how they are. In any case academic grades are not everything, he might be better off studying a trade eventually. But in the meantime yes, I would try and get help for his mental health. Don’t despair, he is still very young. You sound like you have done your best which is all we can do.

ReversaName · 21/08/2026 06:13

GSCE results are just the symptom of a terrible situation.

Firstly, well done for being there for him. How awful that his parents abandoned him.

What a shame we don’t have functioning CAMHS any more. He needs intensive and consistent support from staff who can work with adolescents who are difficult to engage. But there are not enough workers, and there are kids in worse positions so he won’t be a priority.

But you need to keep fighting for support.

Is there anyone in his life he looks up to? Any male role model? Any hobbies he could do?

I am sorry OP. He is scared, sad and struggling. But without support he may go down an even worse path. I feel for you xx

ReversaName · 21/08/2026 06:15

babyproblems · 21/08/2026 05:38

Sorry but having read all of your posts; your daughter has taken absolutely zero responsibility for her actions by the sounds of it. Are you serious that she has other children who live with her??? Yet she never took back her own son? That is shocking to me. In your shoes I would have cut her off over that; at least then your grandson would have felt someone was on his side. All you’ve done has validated her behavior and he will feel that you support what she has done to him. Which is abandon him. I suspect he has deep rejection issues which is not surprising given his mothers and fathers behaviour. You sound very relaxed about it all.. in your shoes I would have cut my daughter off for this series of actions probably. I am not surprised your GS doesn’t want to spend time with her and ‘his siblings’ - can you imagine how that must feel for him???? You don’t seem to get that

I’m astonished at your tone and how much blame you seem to be landing at the feet of the OP.

Moonnstarz · 21/08/2026 06:22

This sounds tricky. What was he predicted? As these grades shouldn't have come out of the blue. Have you been to parents evenings? Seen his reports? Schools are often seen to be over testing children so there should be records of assessment to show that this is the level he is working at.
I am surprised no one had been in touch regarding his low performance.

It sounds like there are much bigger issues going on and you needed help sooner.
I hope you can speak to school/college to make a plan for what happens next.

TeenToTwenties · 21/08/2026 06:26

For different reasons (MH) my DD finished y11 with no GCSE passes.
The world did not end

You and your GS clearly need help, whether that is SS and/or CAMHS or elsewhere. Under Special Guardianship are you eligible for the Post Adoption Support Fund, PAS was the place we got most help.

Education-wise the clear option is a level 1 course at college. If he attends and engages in that then he can work up from there to level 2 and maybe even level 3. Alongside the level 1 course he will do Functional Skills / GCSE maths & English language. Quite possibly functional skills with 1s and 2s.

U53rName · 21/08/2026 06:35

I feel like we’re missing a lot of information. Can you give us some more insight into what his teachers were saying at his parents evenings in Y9, Y10, and Y11? What mock grades did he achieve in Y10 and Y11?

babyproblems · 21/08/2026 06:37

VashtaNerada · 21/08/2026 06:01

What a tough situation for you both. There is some good advice on here about getting back in touch with social services / GP as well as some decent suggestions of ways to get through to him.
Please ignore the responses that lack empathy. It’s very easy to be smug when you’ve had a good life and are lucky enough to have relatively easy DC. The reality is that some people just do have it harder than others.

this is of course true.
Its worth remembering though that ‘some people have it harder than others’ is also because some people try very hard to make good choices / choices that will lead to good or less risky outcomes.
In this situation for example; there are lots of things mentioned that could absolutely have been addressed before this point that would have increased the chances of a good outcome. Many people would take these steps and see them
as reasonable, in the hope of getting the desired outcome of good education/ good family bonds / respectful behavior.
Getting rid of the PC in the lead up to exams; either not seeing his birth mother or asking her to make some huge changes to benefit her son; seeking professional support. These steps could have been taken to encourage a better outcome. It’s also not too late now to take some steps to help this young man. Love alone and keeping a roof over his head will not be enough to set him on a successful path.

To me it seems like this is a repeat of the initial situation which caused this scenario in the first place; OPs daughters’ teenage pregnancy and then the daughter’s subsequent choices to have other children. The pregnancy is not ‘the problem’ - it’s an outcome that is arrived at by poor choices, lack of understanding around risk and lack of strong boundaries that need to be set by the parent.

@CuddlyBears you have been a saint to adopt your grandson. You have done right by him. I am not trying to be unkind; I wanted to explain that these are scenarios that are repeating themselves in your family. Love alone isn’t enough to be a good parent; you also have to have discipline and boundaries and teach children to make good choices. X

Shatenoeuf · 21/08/2026 06:44

Sadly by the time a child becomes a wayward teenager its far too late. Children need firm boundaries from toddlerhood, and to be taught to respect parents authority from a young age.

You see it all the time on here "hes 14 i cant make him go to school can I, he's huge".

A child whos been taught to mind parents, its so ingrained that you're in charge that you can tell them they can/can't do things & they obey.

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