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AIBU to think if we need to politely ask men not to rape women (or men), then we don't want such people in the UK?

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bobbyydazzler · 19/08/2026 20:26

Don't rape, sexually assault or make kissing noises' at people, asylum seekers warned in guidance about living in UK
UK arrivals have been told to treat women equally, not sexually assault partners or have sex with children in a new Home Office pamphlet. As well as the guidebook, a series of posters have also been designed by the government.

https://news.sky.com/story/asylum-seekers-warned-not-to-make-kissing-sounds-at-people-in-new-guidance-about-living-in-uk-13574744

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Mumterz · 19/08/2026 21:28

There are white British scum, no need to import more from nations where VAWG is catastrophic.

StarDolphins · 19/08/2026 21:28

Leapintothelightning · 19/08/2026 20:49

Sooo 74% were British nationals?
yeah sounds like an immigration issue…

1453 extra rapes & SA though, isn’t it? If they weren’t here, 1453 women & girls would be happier right now.

Dibdibbob · 19/08/2026 21:28

MiceSpiders · 19/08/2026 21:08

I work with sex offenders, the overwhelming majority are white British born men. HTH

Well that’s because we are still predominantly a white nation. It’s a bit like the argument that alcohol kills more people than heroin - only because it’s more readily available. If heroin was sold in shops and alcohol wasn’t, you can bet your bottom dollar that the number of deaths from heroin would sky rocket.

Ditto as the number of migrants increases, the pendulum will undoubtedly shift and the statistics will become even more damming. We are sleep walking into a terrifying nightmare for mainly women and girls and people are allowing to happen for fear of being branded racist.

Kokonimater · 19/08/2026 21:29

nomas · 19/08/2026 20:53

Why are you only bothered by black and brown men ignoring the ‘don’t rape women’ law? Why not white men?

Romanians and Polish are white. Just sayin…

Octavia64 · 19/08/2026 21:30

The asylum system almost by definition allows people who have been traumatised by war, persecution, torture, violence generally into “safe” countries.

people who have seen this level of violence or had it inflicted on them are significantly more likely to have mental health issues and to be violent themselves.

the asylum system was set up when many people in Europe were seeking asylum. Britain could leave the system if it wanted to - and that would mean no more violent people from war zones coming here - but many people feel that it’s an important system to have to help people.

whether you personally feel the additional rapes and murders are worth it is a different question.

Mumterz · 19/08/2026 21:30

bobbyydazzler · 19/08/2026 21:02

See my comment to @Leapintothelightning above

This is everyone's favourite per capita ignorer.

OtterlyAstounding · 19/08/2026 21:31

Mumterz · 19/08/2026 21:25

Where would you rather your DD move to start a career - London or Khartoum?

It's bizarre to me that people actually try to argue that men from places like Sudan, Eritrea, Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia etc aren't more of a risk to women, given how women in those places are treated. It's utterly nonsensical. I have to think they know how ridiculous they're being, but they persist anyway. Why?

Mumterz · 19/08/2026 21:31

OtterlyAstounding · 19/08/2026 21:31

It's bizarre to me that people actually try to argue that men from places like Sudan, Eritrea, Iran, Afghanistan, Somalia etc aren't more of a risk to women, given how women in those places are treated. It's utterly nonsensical. I have to think they know how ridiculous they're being, but they persist anyway. Why?

Because white people are bad too. Yes shit is bad here. But no way to the catastrophic levels in these crappy nations.

RoseandVioletCreams · 19/08/2026 21:32

takealettermsjones · 19/08/2026 20:32

This guidance has been in place for a long time.

Also, similar guidance is rolled out in most workplaces about once a year in the form of anti-sexual harassment training.

It's not really headline news tbh, and as usual the right wing media is spinning the hell out of it.

When we had sexual harassment training they used a woman harassing a man !

LoveItaly · 19/08/2026 21:32

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/08/2026 21:25

Quite. Why don’t people (women) holiday in Sudan, Afghanistan, Eritrea? Anyone? Those who welcome unchecked migrants why don’t you pop over for a jolly and see how you get on.

Agree. And yet there is total naivety about young men from these countries when they get to the West. As if they will somehow shed their customs and behaviours and adopt Western values overnight. Madness.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 21:32

bobbyydazzler · 19/08/2026 20:49

Don't rape children? You think your ever day British bloke needs to be guided not to rape children?

Yes. Why are you questioning it?

Mumterz · 19/08/2026 21:33

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 21:32

Yes. Why are you questioning it?

Not the every day British person. The small % that are scum.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/08/2026 21:35

LoveItaly · 19/08/2026 21:32

Agree. And yet there is total naivety about young men from these countries when they get to the West. As if they will somehow shed their customs and behaviours and adopt Western values overnight. Madness.

Yep. And with unfettered access to alcohol, drugs, westernised women and how they dress etc. What could possibly go wrong..

Neverstopwondering · 19/08/2026 21:36

I don't think people entering the UK getting these leaflets is a bad thing really, if it stops just a handful of young men that were raised to disrespect women then good. That would be great, I personally know households in London were because of cultural differences women are less respected. Some of my friends were raised in those houses.

My ideal would be give foreign migrants these leaflets in whatever language they read in bit also make sure they are kept in a place whilst reading them. Afterwards get them to sign a document saying they read and understood the leaflets. That way nobody can claim a sexual attack was down to cultural differences in court, which is a defence men try to use.

I want to make it clear that I don't believe all foreign nationals are a danger but I do think we need to control who is entering the country and be proactive at removal of criminals in order to protect ourselves.

Mumterz · 19/08/2026 21:36

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/08/2026 21:35

Yep. And with unfettered access to alcohol, drugs, westernised women and how they dress etc. What could possibly go wrong..

"white man bad too" is the common response

maxslice · 19/08/2026 21:36

Uh…”politely”? You can’t be serious. Do you actually think rapists care about politeness? That they are even entitled to politeness? What the actual cherry flavored fuck?

Octavia64 · 19/08/2026 21:37

THisbackwithavengeance · 19/08/2026 21:26

Here’s the thing: male asylum seekers will often plead innocence of the law or lack of understanding of sexual norms. However they certainly wouldn’t be running around Afghanistan or Iraq sexually assaulting women so it beggars belief that they think they can do it here. Newsflash: they think Western women are slags and fair game. So before anyone on here defends them, they wouldn’t piss you on you if you were on fire so don’t waste your energy. I work with asylum seekers by the way.

Yes they would.

Egypt: mass sexual assault eg in the tahrir square protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_sexual_assault_in_Egypt

Afghanistan : child rape (mostly of boys) known as Bachi Baza
https://www.humanium.org/en/bacha-bazi-severe-child-abuse-disguised-as-an-afghani-custom/

Women in Afghanistan
https://www.euaa.europa.eu/coi-report-afghanistan-country-focus/447-violence-against-women

Bacha Bazi - severe child abuse disguised as an Afghani custom - Humanium

The distorted subculture of Afghan pedophilia at the moment represents one of the most horrifying violations of human rights.

https://www.humanium.org/en/bacha-bazi-severe-child-abuse-disguised-as-an-afghani-custom/

lazyarse123 · 19/08/2026 21:37

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Why is it racist to not want thousands of men from mysoginistic cultures to come here? They will have passed through plenty of safe countries to get here so why not claim asylum in one of those?

OtterlyAstounding · 19/08/2026 21:37

Mumterz · 19/08/2026 21:31

Because white people are bad too. Yes shit is bad here. But no way to the catastrophic levels in these crappy nations.

Yes, it makes no sense 'oh, men are already bad enough, the bastards – I know what will help! Let's add more who are even worse!' Confused

Erm, how about you don't? How about just focusing on sorting out the homegrown ones? But for some reason that's racist? Even though it's about culture, not race.

Mumterz · 19/08/2026 21:38

Cologne as well. I feel sad for German woman

StarDolphins · 19/08/2026 21:38

MiceSpiders · 19/08/2026 21:08

I work with sex offenders, the overwhelming majority are white British born men. HTH

I should hope so since there’s approx 33million over 18yo British men! Surely you must know that’s to be expected since we’re in England?! If there’s 13million none uk males then you would expect a higher % of British offenders!

PaperPanama · 19/08/2026 21:39

NancyThompson · 19/08/2026 21:19

Do you really believe that it's the first thing on the mind of those poor young people claiming asylum?

I actually think some of them come for that very purpose.

I wonder how many asylum-seeking men commit crime in the UK in order to be detained. Life in a UK prison could be far better than life where they came from.

OtterlyAstounding · 19/08/2026 21:39

NancyThompson · 19/08/2026 21:34

I don't think people in the UK comprehend the levels of extreme sexual violence in other regions:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/jun/30/sexual-violence-tigray-women-abuse-gang-rape-ethiopia-eritrea

God, that's horrific.