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AIBU to refuse regular Sunday evening childcare for my daughter?

364 replies

Asineleen · Today 06:43

Good morning all, I’m not sure if i’m being selfish or fair so please be honest.

Context, I’m 62, I have some health issues but I’m generally able to get on with most parts of life, I do find somethings quite overwhelming though.

Last night my DD messaged me, she has 3 children, twins who are 2 and a 4 year old. I love my granddaughters, I love spending time with them and I’m happy to have them occasionally. Currently they come for a sleep over every other month on a Saturday night and I may provide some ad-hoc childcare if and when it’s needed.
DD was asking if I would be happy to come to hers on alternating Sunday nights from 7ish to 9:30ish in the evening. She and her husband want to go to the mixed doubles group at the local tennis club (they already go to ladies and gents night but obviously the other just stays home with the kids).
She said her mother in law has offered to do every other Sunday.
She told me she would make sure the girls were bathed and in bed and they wouldn’t leave until 7:15 and it continues until 9pm then they would be back around 9:15-30.
I live 10 minutes away, DD said she would make sure either she or her DH be able to drive me home.
She said likely the girls wouldn’t be asleep just yet but the twins would be close and I could sit with her eldest and read with her then it would just be manning the house from about 8 onwards.

I said sorry no I can’t. Mostly as I have work at 8am on Mondays, I tend to be in bed for 8-9 most evenings and tbh I just don’t think it would be as easy as she is selling it, I imagine the children would be out of sorts since mummy and daddy were away and it’s a school night for the eldest so I would feel awful if I wasn’t able to get her down to sleep on time.
I do have 2 children, but there is 11 and a half years between them so I never had a phase of caring for multiple very small children and while I’m happy to do it on a Saturday where bedtime can go a bit off plan and it not matter, I’d worry on a school night.

When my mum called this morning I mentioned it to her and my mum has made me feel awful saying considering all they do for me (drive to appointments, cut my grass etc.), it would be a nice small way to say thank you and if son-in-laws mum can do it and she’s in a whole different town, why can’t I.

So AIBU to say no? Am I being selfish and ungrateful since they do things for me? Should I say yes and just see how it goes?

OP posts:
LancashireButterPie · Today 08:15

I'm the same age as you.
With fairly severe rheumatoid arthritis.

I'd babysit for your DD if she asked and I don't even know her.

Be careful about becoming old before your time OP! Maybe book some driving lessons for a start.

MrSchubertWhiskers · Today 08:15

Oh the ableism on this thread

PastorG · Today 08:16

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gingercat02 · Today 08:16

@Asineleen could you stay at theirs, and then you could just go to bed?

Paul2023 · Today 08:17

LindorDoubleChoc · Today 07:31

I'm nearly 64. Surely you don't need help getting to appointments??

Putting aside the point of the thread, did you miss the part where the OP said she has mobility issues ?

We don’t knew exactly what disability the OP has but even though she’s only 62 she can’t physically do certain things.

Some people are 22 with mobility issues and can’t do certain things.

Good for you if you’re 64 and can. Some people suffer with poor health.

luckylavender · Today 08:17

DandelionClockSeeds · Today 06:52

I was going to suggest similar to dibdibbob - could MiL do every other week, you do one of the gaps, and them skip the other session or oay for childcare?

I didn't think your daughter has been unreasonable to ask, and I do think it's a brilliant opportunity for them. But it does need to work fir you - 9pm sounds very early for bed.

I go to bed around 9 very often. Get up at 5.

PullTheBricksDown · Today 08:17

Asineleen · Today 07:37

I work in the GP surgery in my own village, it’s a 10 minute walk which I’m able to do. I am
then sat all day.

Our village has terrible transport links so I find the 1 hour journey with a change or two plus very restrictive bus times tricky for getting to the hospital.

Ah, I was going to ask if work was flexible at all and if you could negotiate a later start on those Mondays. But that job doesn't sound like it would be one where you could!

Good for you for now saying you'll try it. What's the worst that can happen? Eldest could play up going to bed - then you can think of strategies for that. You're tired - can you have an afternoon nap those Sundays or a super early night after on the Monday?

eekweek · Today 08:18

I do hope if my daughter asked me for help and to be in her future children’s lives when she grows up that I wouldn’t hesitate for a moment. I understand where you are coming from but I don’t think it’s too much for her to ask, especially as she helps you. So many threads of grandparents not wanting to be involved genuinely makes me sad, I feel very lucky to have such supportive and hands on parents.

Naunet · Today 08:18

Are there no men in the family who could do one of the Sundays each month? Is her father around?

Lexy2345 · Today 08:18

They’re not asking for much and you can still be tucked up in bed by 9.45. Twice a month is manageable surely?

DurhamDurham · Today 08:18

If you don’t want to do it then that’s your answer, you don’t need to come up with excuses about needing to be in bed by 8. However I would do it, especially as they are happy to help you. Family members helping each other is surely a good thing?

MrsBatshitRatshit · Today 08:19

I think it's quite a big ask. If you work, weekend evenings are precious. And having to be available from 7pm limits what you can do during the day.

rookiemere · Today 08:19

There are a lot of posts shaming OP for having a health condition, calling her fuddy ruddy or saying about how they do more with worse health conditions or are older.

Regardless of how we feel about the babysitting ask, it should never be acceptable to mock someone for taking appropriate steps to manage their own health conditions and continuing to work when it sounds tiring for them.

Grumpynan · Today 08:19

I’m 62, and also have serious health issues, I don’t work I took retirement at 50 for health reasons. I’m just telling you this, so you know I understand.

my children do a lot for me, and in return I do things for them, it’s a give and take relationship which I think is healthy. One of the things I do is have their 3 children 3 days a week after school and during the holidays. I use to give the girls their dinner and do anything that needed doing ready for school the next day, and have a meal ready for my DIL to take home when she collected them at 7ish. 2 of the days are consecutive, and over the summer term we switched to them staying overnight that night. It’s soooo much easier to manage, they are in bed by 8 and we get up for school at 7.30ish though tbh it tends to be a lot earlier than that which is fine,

I just wonder if you could suggest that you have them at yours ? But I suppose that would mess up going to work and getting them to school

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Gloriia · Today 08:20

It sounds like they do a lot for you so yes, I'd help them out here. If it was 3 times a week maybe not but every other Sun when the mil is assisting too sounds totally doable.

Sam9769 · Today 08:24

Asineleen · Today 07:21

Am I embarrassed about having mobility issues from health problems and surgery, and living in a village with poor public transport? No not really.
If they were unable or didn’t want to, I would of course get a taxi or pay someone to cut my grass.

How do you get to work?

LancashireButterPie · Today 08:25

rookiemere · Today 08:19

There are a lot of posts shaming OP for having a health condition, calling her fuddy ruddy or saying about how they do more with worse health conditions or are older.

Regardless of how we feel about the babysitting ask, it should never be acceptable to mock someone for taking appropriate steps to manage their own health conditions and continuing to work when it sounds tiring for them.

The OP asked for our thoughts as to whether she was being unreasonable.
People discussed their own situations for context.
I actually don't think anyone is shaming anyone here. For example advising someone to consider driving lessons isn't disabilist, and n fact it's quite the opposite.

Don't ask in AIBU, if you don't want a range of opinions.

MJagain · Today 08:25

Asineleen · Today 06:55

I have some health issues, things like cutting the grass are too much for me. I know I could pay someone, and if they said they couldn’t do it I would of course do so.
Currently every other week my son in law goes around and does everyone’s grass, mine, their own, my mums and his parents. He volunteers to do it.

Yet sitting in his house for 2 hours every other week is too much for you?!

Changeisstillpossible · Today 08:26

I think it's too much to ask. You have health problems and work at 8am the next morning; you need to get enough rest.

CovenOfCheeses · Today 08:27

Asineleen · Today 06:43

Good morning all, I’m not sure if i’m being selfish or fair so please be honest.

Context, I’m 62, I have some health issues but I’m generally able to get on with most parts of life, I do find somethings quite overwhelming though.

Last night my DD messaged me, she has 3 children, twins who are 2 and a 4 year old. I love my granddaughters, I love spending time with them and I’m happy to have them occasionally. Currently they come for a sleep over every other month on a Saturday night and I may provide some ad-hoc childcare if and when it’s needed.
DD was asking if I would be happy to come to hers on alternating Sunday nights from 7ish to 9:30ish in the evening. She and her husband want to go to the mixed doubles group at the local tennis club (they already go to ladies and gents night but obviously the other just stays home with the kids).
She said her mother in law has offered to do every other Sunday.
She told me she would make sure the girls were bathed and in bed and they wouldn’t leave until 7:15 and it continues until 9pm then they would be back around 9:15-30.
I live 10 minutes away, DD said she would make sure either she or her DH be able to drive me home.
She said likely the girls wouldn’t be asleep just yet but the twins would be close and I could sit with her eldest and read with her then it would just be manning the house from about 8 onwards.

I said sorry no I can’t. Mostly as I have work at 8am on Mondays, I tend to be in bed for 8-9 most evenings and tbh I just don’t think it would be as easy as she is selling it, I imagine the children would be out of sorts since mummy and daddy were away and it’s a school night for the eldest so I would feel awful if I wasn’t able to get her down to sleep on time.
I do have 2 children, but there is 11 and a half years between them so I never had a phase of caring for multiple very small children and while I’m happy to do it on a Saturday where bedtime can go a bit off plan and it not matter, I’d worry on a school night.

When my mum called this morning I mentioned it to her and my mum has made me feel awful saying considering all they do for me (drive to appointments, cut my grass etc.), it would be a nice small way to say thank you and if son-in-laws mum can do it and she’s in a whole different town, why can’t I.

So AIBU to say no? Am I being selfish and ungrateful since they do things for me? Should I say yes and just see how it goes?

I would loce to see Grandkid (don’t have any yet). Why not see how it goes and then decide rather than speculate on the worst possible scenarios.

piscesangel · Today 08:27

I generally feel no-one is entitled to help with their children, but this is really a very small request in the context of a family that seems generally to all help each other out a lot.

(I also don't think concerns about your granddaughter being tired for school are properly for you - if your DD and DSIL are ok with it then that's one for them)

emuloc · Today 08:27

LindorDoubleChoc · Today 07:31

I'm nearly 64. Surely you don't need help getting to appointments??

Age is irrelevant, the state of a person's health is more pertinent. The OP has already said, that she is disabled.

CharlotteStreetW1 · Today 08:28

Well done for saying you'll giving it a go.

I appreciate you have some mobility issues but I would just say, as a fellow 62yo still working full time, you are only 62. Don't give in to old age before your time 🙂

MJagain · Today 08:28

MelonSorbet · Today 08:12

I might help out family in this situation if they both had to work or something but not so they can swan off to play tennis. So YANBU. I doubt many parents of small kids can both go out and do a hobby at the same time, that's life.

Maybe that’s why there is over 50% divorce rate and all the economic and social negative effects of that, on the individual children & whole country.

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