To ask when we lost sense of basic social etiquette?

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I got the train after work today and realised people just have no manners at all. Barging on the train before people had got off, not pausing to allow people out of their seats when getting off, being noisy and disruptive, just generally being unpleasant.

AIBU to ask what is wrong with people and when did we become like this? It’s sad!

Yeah I'm sat on a train as we speak and the guy in front of me is effing and blinding! Believe me, I'm not a prude and often eff myself but never in a public place....it's just so offensive....I really don't want to hear it :(

My two DDs are super lovely and polite :)
They do exist;)

People just generally seem to be selfish and entitled now, with no thought given to anyone else.
We went out for a meal the other night, not anything fancy but still expensive! Family behind with a 3/4 year old, dad swearing constantly at the top of his voice. The kid was watching videos (cocomelon or something similar) at full volume - then getting told off for not eating their meal!
Group of teenage girls on the other side, 2 were scrolling tik tok and playing the videos out loud, one was on loudspeaker to another friend - we couldn’t hear ourselves over the noise.

I’m autistic so already struggle with overwhelming noise but even DP couldn’t deal with it. Im finding that I have to avoid going to certain places and especially the cinema now as people are so selfish.

No, but you were in the age group.

There's plenty of teenagers around right now who aren't no heads. They're likely the majority, but you don't notice them because they're just normal human beings, just like the 50 year olds in your day didn't notice you because you weren't one of the nobheads.

Oh I've just remembered the ultimate. Recently went to maternity unit for monitoring. There are three chairs on the ward where you wait to be registered, triaged etc. Heavily pregnant women coming in at regular intervals, very often with partners. One woman was moved onto a bed on the ward, man accompanying another woman sank into the seat she had vacated. New pregnant lady arrived shortly after and he Didn't Stand Up.

YANBU- I got a shock on the tube recently (after years of not using it) at how many people openly played loud music without headphones. Incredibly rude!

It isn't. I live in the Square Mile and rarely see this sort of cobblers even at the busiest commuter times.

I see it more often in the town centre if I go over to Tottenham Court Road or Bond Street, but those are tourists.

I mean I was with you until you used the c-word in your post. For me that’s really offensive and unacceptable.

Yanbu i see this regularly on the trains, not letting people off first, listening to phones on loud with no headphones, feet on the seats and having the wrong/no ticket then getting aggressive with staff...its a sad state of affairs

Oh give over

Grow up. It’s a word. They deserve to be called much, much worse.

Imagine how bad life will be when these horrible people are Grandparents having produced generations of feral kids

Probably won't be safe to leave the house when I'm 90.

I can assure you I wasn’t. I’ve always had manners. And I continue to do so.

Whats much mich worse than that?

I’d agree with that. In my little world, the behaviour of parents towards school staff fell off an absolute cliff post-Covid.

Now it is very rare to contact a parent about a concern without them getting angry/rude/denying it is important/claiming it’s somehow someone else’s fault/insisting there must not be a sanction.

Personally I reckon it all got so much worse after COVID, I unfortunately live in a tourist destination (no, I can't leave before anyone jumps down my throat) & the levels of entitlement, rudeness & sheer selfish twattery is unbelievable. I'm not a fan of this modern soft parenting nonsense either....

Apparently the op is a big fan of effing and blinding

Rules of Misogyny - For Women Scotland

Rule one. Women are responsible for what men do.

The worst behaviour i have seen in a long time was the very recent behaviour of 2 adult women who were under the influence of something and kicking off to the point where the whole carriage were arguing. They were taken off the train by the police and subsequently arrested all in front of kids.

On the contrary, I'm always amazed how polite and calm most people are in the face of delays and overcrowding on public transport.

There was a group of about eight families piled onto a bus to go and visit a popular beach in the south west near where my mum lives the other week. Three of them thrust their phones with ‘Baby Shark’ playing at full volume at their squawking kids instead of interacting with them.

I’m afraid I properly lost my shit 😳 and demanded they turned that noise off, nobody needed to hear it and they were selfish and inconsiderate. Thankfully it worked, but I think there was probably plenty of grumbling about me.

My own children know not to watch things with the sound on in public (they have headphones) and that nobody needs to hear their full conversations. So tempted to shout “Love yoooo, mwah mwah!” or something equally immature next time I encounter this.

My commute from North London into the centre comprises a leg on the Overground and one on the Tube. There's a section on the interchange between the two where there's no down escalator. People constantly offer to help folk down with their cases or buggies. I can't think of a time recently when I've seen someone struggling and no-one offering.
Likewise on the Tube it's a reflex that younger people stand up to offer their seat.
Mind you I mostly travel at lunchtime and late at night. It doesn't happen so much at seven in the morning (perhaps cos there's no room to move..)

That's the upside.

Loads of downsides: feet on seats; bags reserving adjacent seat; lack of headphones etc etc

As to when the British lost their love for a queue, who knows when that vanished?!

But you’re part of the problem! When did the C**t word become acceptable? It used to just be used by rough blokes in pubs after several pints, now you’re using it as everyday language. Simply awful.

Absolute bollocks.
It wasn’t “holding doors”it was doing it because we were women. Of course you hold doors, male or female for either sex. Hold them longer for disabled people, elderly, pregnant women or people who clearly need you to open a door.

The Karen / Boomer narrative means you have to be particularly charismatic to confront some of the twatty behaviour. Often people don’t even realise they are annoying so being factual and non confrontational works best.

Your post has made me smile, picturing you travelling with one leg on the overground, one on the underground. Assume you have long legs and are very flexible! 🤣