Reform want to cut PIP

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Reform want to cut benefits for disabled people. They want businesses to pay more towards sickness etc. I find it repulsive that they want to do this. When will people understand that they are a bunch of self interested sharks who want to make a stack of dosh for themselves while in govt and that they font give a damn about anyone in need. Why cant the most vulnerable ppl who vote for them see thus. It's astonishing. It's ac joke. I eish ppl who get what Reform.iscreally about and how it manipulates would make sn extra effort to tslk to.ppl who dont seem to get it.

No ones getting pip from a doctors or counsellors note.

Mate, it’s still not true.

He's no Hitler isn't really much of a compliment.

A grift rather than a hobby I'd say. He's got to the point where he claims he'd need a million pounds a year to be an MP so he's obviously benefited financially from it. He's not awfully keen to do a deal with Mr Lowe, I suppose he might if the price was right, but nothing to suggest that presently.

The thing is, I understand that the PM has to turn up for work more than three times in two years. It's frowned upon for them to have public temper tantrums or break parliamentary codes or tell overt, provable lies. Mr Farage would have to make some tough choices if he was serious about the top job.

Let's have some facts to back up your Restore claim. Fastest growing where? Are these officially verified or just Restore's own figures? How does rise in membership correlate to electoral success (see Corbyn)?

It is a lie. How does a GP note saying you are taking anti depressants earn you enough points for any of the sections in the 14 page form?

I don’t think historical figures can be relied upon, but I couldn’t call who will win atm.

Hopefully there won’t be a GE for a while and we can just be left alone on that issue.

Times radio just brought having a GE up again, it’s not necessary and I just thought ah let us be for a bit. See how it goes.

ETA on figures Reform have fluctuated from majority polls to not, so it depends how that pans out.

Is there a reason you begrudge my non verbal, doubly incontinent autistic 7 year old son, who cannot be left alone for even one second as he’s a danger to himself and will never live an independent life, his DLA? I mean, I had to quit my £90k a year job to care for him (I now work school hours, term time only, minimum wage as there is no available wrap around or holiday childcare for him) so it’s a struggle to provide him with everything he needs due to his disability.

I agree.

I think we need some stability for a few years and a chance for change to be implemented and felt.

Quite, it’s an experiment that is yet to be properly evaluated by results and outcomes.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/welfare-numbers-facts-behind-britain-175034417.html

Labour are also looking at PIP a review is due in November, it’s the TIMMS review. They already have stated that too many people receive this for what they stated were “mild” issues.

That is what KS used to say?

Yes, like the Tories they just parrot Reform now, because they have to.

Depends on where you live
there are a few test areas that allow you to claim pip online
but initially you have to call up

And?

Robert Jenrick is the guy who took a £12k personal donation from a billionaire after he'd rushed through his planning application. Jenrick overruled the llocal council and planning inspectors and saved the billionaire loads of hassle and money.

Now he wants employers to pay a 'return to work cover' insurance to fund the sickness payments for employees.

Who will decide the companies who provide that insurance?
How can we be sure the people chosing the companies and regulating them are impartial?

Even in the trial areas where the application can be made online, it isn’t available to appointee’s completing the form on behalf of someone else.

Yet so many people on here have said the main parties aren't listening.
Which is it?

You can only force the general working population to work themselves to the bone to pay the taxes to provide for everyone else before those people start to break themselves. The more the tax the government take of them the harder/longer they have to work to maintain the same standard of living. They will get exhausted and drop out the workforce.

my question about starting from benefits from scratch was hypothetical. No need to look at what came before. Just what would we do if we could start again. I’m genuinely curious- how would it be structured? We definitely could say as of tomorrow anyone on the old system gets what they have but anyone who hadn’t claimed yet goes onto a new system.

It is reported in the Express newspaper that Reform UK wants to do a major review of PIP and health benefits if they are elected. There are currently 6.9 million receiving disability benefits and it is reported that 2.16 million claimants will keep there PIP in full and a further 2.89 million claimants will have there benefit claim modified or reduced but still get some benefits. Some of the savings will go to councils to administer help to disabled people in the form of home modifications eg walk in shower instead of bath. Councils already have some funding but it's very limited ATM. As usual Mumsnet immediately sees a headline and declares all PIP will be abolished.

That's your opinion, ok. Where's your evidence? Otherwise it's just hot air.

Labour are looking to stop UC claimants under 22 claiming lower capacity to work. It's a blanket policy but what about those with very severe learning disabilities who are unlikely to ever be able to work. I.Q lower than 60. What will happen to those people?

What do you think this proves? Tell us the reasoning behind it.

Yep the only thing missing was the "5 holidays a year" that poster missed a trick there, it was almost a perfect score.

All these taxpayers will expect benefits and help for themselves and their families when they need it.