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AIBU to think my friend should just accept I am marrying her ex?

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BePearlTiger · Today 10:45

I’m 35 and have been with my partner for 4 years. We actually met again completely by chance after many years of not seeing each other, hit it off, were messaging for a week or so and decided to go on a date and he asked to meet up for a coffee and a walk. Before we had even been on our first date, I told my friend that we had hit it off messaging and we’re going for coffee because I wanted to be upfront with her.

He had been her boyfriend at university when they were around 18–20. They were together for about 2 years. They broke up nearly 20 years ago and obviously people change enormously between 18 and 36.

When I told her, after a couple time of meeting him that we are officially seeing each other I specifically asked if she had a problem with it. She said no, so I took that at face value. I wasn’t sneaking around or getting into a relationship with her ex behind her back. I actually even told her before we’d been on the first date.

We’ve now been together for 4 years. We moved in together & he proposed earlier this year and I said yes. We’re very happy, are buying a house together and would like to have children. We have a wedding date set for next June, invitations have gone out and our university friends have been absolutely lovely about it , RSVPs, messages, people booking hotels etc. They’re genuinely excited for us.

When I told this particular friend about the engagement, she said, “Oh, are you going to marry my ex?” I reminded her that we’d been together for 4 years and that I had told her about us from the very beginning. She then said that she’d only said she had no problem with it because she didn’t think we would last.
That has really thrown me.

I completely understand that she might have complicated feelings about it. I’m not trying to tell her how she should feel. But at some point, surely you have to accept that this was a relationship from university when you were 18 years old?

It’s not as though they were together for 15 years, were engaged, had children or had some huge life together. They were university sweethearts for a couple of years, nearly 20 years ago. She has since married, had children and divorced. He and I have now built an actual adult life together over the last four years.

And honestly, I find it particularly difficult because I had exactly the reverse situation myself. One of my friends married someone I had dated at university. I was 18. They got together years later and eventually married and have children. I genuinely didn't have an issue with it. I thought, “We were teenagers at university, life moved on,” and I was happy for them.

So I’m struggling with why I’m apparently supposed to feel guilty now.

I also wonder whether this friendship may simply be worth losing if this is something she can’t move past. Obviously I’d rather not lose a friend, but I don’t think I can spend the rest of my life feeling that I’ve done something wrong by marrying my partner.

All our other university friends seem completely happy for us and are looking forward to the wedding. Nobody else seems to see this as some enormous betrayal.

AIBU to think she needs to let this go? I can understand her feeling upset, but I don’t think she gets a veto over a relationship that started nearly 20 years after theirs ended.

Or am I being completely insensitive about the fact that, regardless of how long ago it was, he will always be “her ex” to her?

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ThisMauveTurtle · Today 12:42

Some people don't like to see anybody in a happy relationship.
I'd let the friendship go.

BePearlTiger · Today 12:42

Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · Today 12:36

There’s no legal definition of the term. It’s not been trademarked or anything. 😂

You’re not even close friends. I genuinely don’t even understand why you’re so bothered. What are you hoping to get from this thread?

Can I not post on here ? Just because I’m not close to someone doesn’t mean that I do not like them. In a group of 8 women I think it’s understandable some would be closer than others.

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Gymnopedie · Today 12:42

OP I think what you said Just because anyone has dated anyone doesn’t mean you own them gets to the heart of the matter. She can feel upset if she wants but it doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong. Has she given you any meaningful explanation for why she's upset - beyond saying that she didn't think it would last? Does she feel like he was the one that got away and doesn't want you to have him either?

Whatever happened 20+ years ago is in the past. You have a fantastic relationship, don't let her put any doubts in your mind. Have a lovely wedding and a happy life.

RunningJo · Today 12:43

Not sure how I’d feel… I guess if it was a close friend, if the ex was lovely then I’d be happy they’d found each other.
If I was secretly harbouring romantic thoughts towards this ex and always thought we get back together, then that’s a different story.

Maybe she is a little bit envious that you’ve found happiness with someone who chose his studies over her - despite that not being unusual at age 20, and many years ago. To her that may make her feel sad, or she thinks it’s a bit weird.

If you’re a good friend then I’d want to talk about what’s going on.
But ultimately, her feelings are as valid as yours and neither of you have to agree with how each other feel. Only you know whether you want to continue with the friendship or not, or how important that is to you.

VictraBarca · Today 12:43

She’s allowed to have her own thoughts and feelings but she has no right to veto anything. If she’s that bothered by it she needs to back off.

Her head would explode in my family. My SiL is also my husbands ex as well as being married to his brother… yeah. I know. It all happened years before I showed up so it would be absolutely ridiculous if I started throwing my weight around about ancient history. And it doesn’t impact anything. You just get on with it.

Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · Today 12:44

BePearlTiger · Today 12:42

Can I not post on here ? Just because I’m not close to someone doesn’t mean that I do not like them. In a group of 8 women I think it’s understandable some would be closer than others.

I haven’t said you shouldn’t post or that you don’t like her. Your response has nothing to do with what’s in my comment, OP.

You’re clearly feeling very upset and defensive, but nobody is attacking you that I can see. Again, what would you like from this thread? As it doesn’t seem to be giving it to you.

Pericombobulations · Today 12:45

I'm with you OP. My best friend from school married my first boyfriend. To the point it was referenced in the best man's speech that the first time they met was on his first date with me. I was pleased for them both. And this is from someone who was broken when he split up with me, but we hadnt dated for 6 years when they got together.

I suspect you are right that she still holds feelings for him but he clearly doesnt as he is with you now and you didnt have an affair with him whilst he was with her.

Good luck

LivelyGreyShark · Today 12:45

But has she actually said that she's upset? Sounds more like a throwaway comment because she was weirded out and you're reading more into it.

user1476613140 · Today 12:45

Move on with your life, don't feel guilty for falling in love with this man she used to see at university for a couple of years.

It's her problem. Congratulations to you both in the meantime🫶

Venusunbroken · Today 12:46

This is all so dramatic. Are you concerned he may still fancy her, as he did once? I just can’t fathom why you’re diving off the deep end like this.

BePearlTiger · Today 12:48

Venusunbroken · Today 12:46

This is all so dramatic. Are you concerned he may still fancy her, as he did once? I just can’t fathom why you’re diving off the deep end like this.

No I don’t think that but alright.

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BePearlTiger · Today 12:49

LivelyGreyShark · Today 12:45

But has she actually said that she's upset? Sounds more like a throwaway comment because she was weirded out and you're reading more into it.

Yes she has

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Duckiewasthefirstniceguy · Today 12:49

Venusunbroken · Today 12:46

This is all so dramatic. Are you concerned he may still fancy her, as he did once? I just can’t fathom why you’re diving off the deep end like this.

Yes, I also don’t get it.

Member984815 · Today 12:49

Let the friendship go, you are getting your happy ever after , her marriage has failed. She's just a bit sad that you have something she doesn't and has built up this past relationship to something it probably wasn't. What does your partner say about it ?

socialdilemmawhattodo · Today 12:49

BePearlTiger · Today 11:35

I think I’ll probably let the friendship fizzle out. It’s been almost 20 years and also she’s had 4 years to speak to me about it. The moment he proposes there’s suddenly an issue or that she didn’t expect it to last… what a sad was to think about your friends relationship, hoping it fails. It is just sad to see the bitterness over someone she doesn’t know, I think it’s fair to say knowing someone for 2 years out of 36 years of their lives and not seeing them in over 15 years…it’s safe to say you do not know them anymore.

So in the last 4 years she hasn't met up with you as a couple? That's not a very strong relationship right there.

SunnyRedSnail · Today 12:50

BePearlTiger · Today 11:51

They broke up because he wanted to focus on his education and did not want to have a girlfriend. At 20 years old that is a fair decision to choose to focus on your career ambitions. I think you’re thinking too into it. Im using change because she thinks she knows him but she doesn’t know him. She’s knew him for 2 years out of 36 years of his life. Those 2 years were over 15 years ago, which is why I am saying people change. I’m not the same person I was 15 years ago.

Ahhh this makes more sense.

She clearly liked him a lot and he ended it. It must have made her feel pretty shit to have someone value a career over a person you have spent 2 years with.

She must have been gutted at the time so I see why she might feel bitter - he wasnt willing to commit to her and walked away but instead of the same happening to you (which she probably felt was likely), you got the engagement ring.

She will have to get over it. It may be 20 years but clearly hurt her at the time.

getthroughonemoreday · Today 12:50

She can't honestly expect that you'll now end the relationship (with 'her ex' 🙄) now that she's finally decided to tell you that she's not comfortable with the fact that he's moved on and wants to marry you. What was the point of telling you after you were engaged? Again, she should have just swallowed it down and accepted that it's happening. Pretending to be fine with it years ago while secretly hoping it wouldn't last was her mistake. She shouldn't now step forward and try to make you feel that you've done something wrong. You haven't.

I'd tell her that you're sorry she's feeling uncomfortable with it and just leave it at that. I do suspect the friendship is over, but life will go on. Obviously she can feel how she feels, but if she wanted to stay friends, she should have realised that you can keep some feelings to yourself, for your own sake and that of others. Not everything has to be voiced. Now it is time for you to accept that the friendship will not be the same and probably will not last, but your marriage should provide a nice distraction.

IJustMight · Today 12:51

BePearlTiger · Today 11:17

No not at all. I think I’ve even said this within the post but I think after almost 20 years she doesn’t really have a right to veto his relationships. She has not seen him since university, she’s been married, had children, it was a relationship when they were in their late teens at university.

Wow ... then she's reaaalllllyyy embarrassing herself.

Carry on ... congratulations on your engagement.

Cleo65 · Today 12:51

You're absolutely right not to feel guilty - but she is absolutely allowed to feel her feelings too...

MolkosTeenageAngst · Today 12:52

How recently did she divorce? It could just be that she’s feeling wistful for the past and sad about her life in general, particularly if her own marriage has recently ended.

I think marriage announcements can bring up complicated feelings in people particularly if they’re experiencing difficulties in their own relationships.

The fact you’re marrying an ex probably further complicates the matter and that he ended the relationship probably complicate it again. She might be going down the root of ‘what if’ and imagining how her life could have been different. You marrying him also endorses the kind of man he is, that he is a good man and marriage material. She might be regretting the choice she made to marry a man who she is now divorced from and therefore probably doesn’t think is a good man and wondering what her life could be have been like if things had worked out differently.

I’m not saying she has feelings for your fiance, but it’s more that she is feeling lonely and unhappy in her current life and can’t help but wonder whether she may have been happier had things been different.

Was she happy in her marriage when you asked her about her ex four years ago? If so it also maybe that she genuinely didn’t mind at the time but feels different now that she’s divorced. Saying I didn’t think it would last is not the same as saying she’s been wishing it to end all this time, she probably just means that when you asked if she was happy for you to go on a date she didn’t at that point think about what that could mean were it to last. At that point she probably wasn’t considering how she might feel if it did lead to a long-term relationship and marriage meaning he’d be a permanent feature of your life. By the time it became clear it was serious it would no doubt have been too late for her to raise anything even if she did start to realise she wasn’t fully okay with it.

It is also quite likely, if she is recently divorced that actually this has little to do with the actual relationship between you and your ex and is more about her feeling lonely or or regretful or just wondering whether she would’ve been happier if life had panned out differently.

If you value her friendship then in your shoes I would try and respond to her with empathy and understanding about her situation and the fact she may well be unhappy with things in general. Sometimes everybody has feelings or emotions they didn’t anticipate or can’t control, she can’t help the way that she feels and she can’t ‘get over’ something just because you think she should. It is very likely her feelings are mixed up with her feelings about her divorce and her life and relationships in general and that it is something which, in time and with support from those around her, she will be completely okay with again.

MeganM3 · Today 12:53

Stoflinewer · Today 11:10

Im mid 50s and have been surprised over recent years to see a few friends reconnect with first loves - high school / uni exs . Just anecdotally it would seem that it’s not a given that people really move on from these first relationships- or some maybe idealise them after a divorce . I think you say your friend has divorced.

let her have her feelings - you shouldn’t feel guilty as you’ve done nothing wrong . The friendship is likely to fade though and that’s probably for the best

Have also noticed this.
A relative of mine, late 50s, is engaged to marry an old boyfriend from her teens who she had not seen for decades. They met at a funeral after both being divorced for years. It’s quite sweet.

BettyJoanPerske · Today 12:54

Lugol · Today 12:36

Similarly OP doesn't get to demand she feels one way when she doesn't.

She can feel however she feels.

Of course not, but she is still being unreasonable to be dramatic about it. If she's not okay with it she needs to fade away quietly, not play the victim.

BePearlTiger · Today 12:54

Member984815 · Today 12:49

Let the friendship go, you are getting your happy ever after , her marriage has failed. She's just a bit sad that you have something she doesn't and has built up this past relationship to something it probably wasn't. What does your partner say about it ?

I was very happy for her when she first got married and when she had her children I’ve always been happy for her. A relationship of mine broke down during the time she got married, my ex didn’t want marriage or children in the end which hurt but I still stayed happy for people around me.

I have told my partner what’s been going on, she’s sent me multiple paragraphs on WhatsApp which has been quite extreme over. He’s a bit confused too, says he was 20 yrs old, they weren’t married or anything, says he hasn’t seen her in so long doesn’t understand what the fuss is about, can understand why it might be weird but also we live once. I think the messages are what’s so extreme about this, I didn’t do it to spite her, in fact I told her first before we’d even gone on a first date.

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TishHope · Today 12:56

She's jealous because she hasn't got anyone at the moment. I would not bother being friendly with her any more.

malificent7 · Today 12:56

I have a friend like this...goes out with all my exes and other friends' exes then expects us to be overjoyed for her.

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