To ask if you think the prime minister has a democratic duty to house asylum seekers in middle class areas

[CurdinHenry]

By which I mean, would most voters support this as opposed to a change in policy to refuse in greater numbers? I honestly can't tell what "the majority" actually wants. I would prefer fewer having seen how things went in Germany thanks to the Merkel wave but I am willing to believe I'm a backwards old boomer and a majority would be more welcoming.

They (UK governments) tend to say they have no choice due to the echr but this isn't true. There are a lot of operational choices they could make (eg sometimes when people are denied entry at the border they are actually allowed into the country for a few days and instructed to report back to the airport when it's time for the removal flight).

Case closed.

Yes it does

The businesses in the area of these hotels are being impacted by the loss of tourism revenue in the area causing job losses and small cafe/restaurant closing down.
The army bases not so
much of a financial hit but the army base accommodation impacts the local communities peace of mind.
I never thought I’d see the day that I felt safer living in the city centre over the countryside. Safety in numbers

It beggars belief. Apparently they're going to caring for elderly people in care homes as well. Amazing.

It really is not when not planned, resourced and regulated. Its just a big angry mess all.round. the people.coming in are brought up by their mothers to believe women deserve certain treatment, should behave in certain ways. They are brought up with women being stoned to death while chained to a rock at the roadside for not lowering their gaze. They are not evil, not sick bastards but, like if I went to live in Afghanistan, they DO suffer massive culture shock and confusion. Nobody.does well from this. I have lived in the ME for 27 years. It is hard for anything less than the most moderate Arabs to comprehend our ways in the same way mumsnet hates Dubai and Saudi.

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Quite. The demonisation of these places just doesn't mesh with most people's lived experiences.

I remember one particular day, scorching hot bright sun just like this one, I was walking past a hotel and one of the gentlemen staying there leaned his head out of the window and shouted "You! Cover your legs!" And I just thought to myself, isn't it nice how this person who doesn't know who I am or what culture I belong to cares enough about my exposure to the sun to warn me how I need to protect my skin from the heat.

That is the community spirit and unity that the right wing want to take away from you. We have to defend it however we can. Always be mindful in utilising the cardinal rule, when all else fails, just call people you disagree with a racist. Doesn't matter if that's your local tradesman, your husband or your cat.

I wouldn't mind if the government had some sort of works programme (rebuilding railways or infrastructure) lined up for these people and that they were paying taxes after 6 months. However I am opposed to having communities of people living off welfare and not even bothering to learn the language, just because it is all free and not something they'd get in their country. I live in London and there are areas like this. I'd resent paying higher tax for this.

I was being sarcastic. I hate what has happened to this country. Such a seismic change in just a few decades - that nobody voted for. And there is literally no going back.

How is it? You said ‘middle class do gooders had voted for stupid numbers of migrants’ I’ve never known there to be a referendum on whether we accept migrants or not. And as a midlde
class do gooder who you allege has voted for this, can you tell me when?

The amount of envy poisoning our society is epidemic. ‘ Bringing down’ is precisely what so many people want.. because they are vitriolic about the fact that some people are ‘ up’.

Most of the new camps are in rural areas which would traditionally have been regarded as middle class and which would have voted Conservative. So in effect this is already happening. However, given populations are small, the numbers objecting will also be small, though quite vigorous.

Rurally we feel more exposed, we have lower crime yes, but if anything happens, it can take a long time for the Police to arrive. I speak from experience. The obvious solution is that the areas housing asylum seekers should be secure until their claims have been properly assessed and until they have been screened. Allow access outside the camps but only on an accompanied basis.

It is very hard. I lose staff regularly who have moved to the region from the UK, British born Muslims who feel that Qatar and Dubai especially are too liberal and say bugger this and go back to England or Saudi, Malaysia, Indonesia etc where there is absolutely no influence for their children. It really does happen three or four times a year in my industry. A few years ago (I am in a different job now so can say) I lost a family after they were told they couldnt hijab their NEWBORN daughter and would be reported to social services. They were utterly outraged but struggled to fight it as they were literally in a Sharia country and in the majority religion. They went home. To Bradford.

Yes I think all areas should have their share.

I think there needs to be an intensive work programme for these men. If they are working hard then tired from working there’s less opportunity for any trouble. We need workers and they want to be here so makes economic sense to set up a scheme where they can contribute.

How is this bringing a place down though? I don't understand. The working class have been almost entirely the sole beneficiaries of diversity for decades and now a fair and equitable government have come in and made it clear that the selfish working classes will no longer get to hoard this benefit for themselves.

The people in villages and hamlets up and down the country should be dancing with glee that they are at long last not being left behind in the dark ages.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2026/0724/1584958-jamey-carney/

That was tried and tested in Ireland. Beautiful lady, bought new home from her 1 million inheritance, worked with refugees, fell in love, found by her 13 year old daughter with her head caved in… He who fled from Jordan, flew back to Jordan in the hours before her 13 year old daughter, returned from a sleepover to find her mam.

I would imagine he was a doctor specialising in Dermatology and saw a suspicious looking mole on your bare legs. It was very kind of him to look out for you!

What are you asking?

The French and Russian Revolutions happened for less cause! 😂

“Up”. ignorant.
I think it is a great idea to clear out all the working class areas now, let the “up” people enjoy the new surroundings

I think they should be returned immediately, and if they've forgotten where they've come form, locked up until they remember. Illegal entry should offer no route to asylum. I would also remove any that have arrived previously, unless they can prove they have contributed more than they've cost. Genuine asylum seekers should be housed in camps close to where they have escaped from, and distributed across willing nations. Preferably starting with the most vulnerable. Though I remember Cameron suggesting that, and he was attacked as a massive racist. But maybe times have changed.

I'm not sure I'd give many young, fit men asylum at all though - who's supposed to help make their countries better if they all flee? While we give them lovely lives over here, the old, poor, disabled, young and female are left to suffer without anyone to help them and change things. I struggle to see how anyone can think that's morally correct. If the young, fit and wealthy are no longer able to just scarper, they may realise they have no choice but to improve their own societies. Like Europeans once had to.

I don’t understand what you are suggesting.

I suspect you are correct @geniusinajar. I do know that particular hotel has a good proportion of doctors, a few engineers and a wizard specialising in the art of astromancy.

What an amazing example to us all!

My eyes fill with tears at the thought of them fleeing torment in far off lands to only find, when they got here, that they were-as you earlier described-treated so badly by white working class racists.

So wonderful, so heartening, so inspiring that they have found a home in your area: an area devoid of toothless union jack wearing whites.

It will be wonderful when these goblins are replaced by the graceful, lithe, intelligent, muscle packed, sensitive beings that you describe.

Meanwhile in the real world...others tell the truth.

Andy Burnham's suggestion is fair, but unprocessed asylum seekers shouldn't have the right to roam. He is approaching the issue of irregular immigration without the seriousness it deserves.