To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

The expression of hatred of white people is quite blatant sometimes, isn’t it?

Yes, exactly. Regardless, I would imagine the vast majority of white English women would be very much open to relationships with these men as we are a very open and tolerant bunch on the whole. I simply do not see the fear that some of the posters are insinuating that these men will be wandering around without access to 'sex', as if that is the be all and end all for people escaping persecution.

I think most of this fearmongering is coming from British men who are finding out very quickly that their value on the dating market isn't all it's cracked up to be and they are flailing about desperately trying to convince us that dating anybody from an asylum background is a bad idea.

What “hatred of white people” are you referring to? Please quote it, because disagreeing with your views on immigration isn't hatred of white people. Racism is a serious accusation, and throwing it around because somebody challenges sweeping generalisations about migrants rather trivialises actual racism.

It gets to a point where people should maybe stop engaging. This is a serious thread about an important issue.

😂😂😂 I don’t need a man to convince me of anything and that’s precisely why I’d never date anyone who rocked up on a boat. It’s because I can think for myself and have my own views and opinions, which is everything that culture hates about western women.

That's interesting.

I live in an affluent area with low unemployment, but 17% are claiming UC here. I suspect that that might be because of high housing costs, and that a fair proportion of those UC claimants only get UC to help with rent.

Historically, it's always been an area where wages are low relative to housing costs, a stat that used to be used as a measure of deprivation by planners.

Unless I’m mistaken only one person on this thread has talked about drowning people, which is you.

It is a serious issue, which is precisely why sweeping statements about entire racial, ethnic or national groups and accusations of “hatred of white people” don't improve the discussion. If we're going to discuss immigration seriously, let's discuss evidence and policy rather than turning disagreement into racial grievance.

@BagsyTimBradford and @RosesAndPeoniesAndIrises

I agree with you both.I think it is best not to engage with @DebbieSavage.

There are people who are trying to put a positive spin on this, such as @LakieLady and @Persephonia1966. I couldn't disagree with them more- a position shared by the majority on this thread-but they are not putting forward outrageous posts-they are here to engage.

@DebbieSavage is clearly here just for giggles and to see how many people take the bait. In reality, I strongly suspect she is more in agreement with those who are against this then those who are for it but she chooses just to be silly rather than putting forward her ideas in a genuine way.

Ah, the “rub their noses in diversity” approach.

Frankly, and if I get deleted for this, so be it, wishing for the native group of a country to be made the minority is genocidal talk. It would be considered so if you made this comment about any other country’s people and it is when you say it about white British people.

I hope people can see you and your type for what you are.

That’s more likely to happen with crossings anyway. Not just across the channel but to the EU.

Countries that have stopped the crossings wouldn’t go back to those deaths. Even left wing wouldn’t vote to go back to it.

This has to be a piss take.

The left drastically fucked up by throwing around the word "racist" so much over the last ten to fifteen years or so. I'm not denying for a moment that racism has not been taken seriously enough throughout the decades. But I've now heard people claim that it's racist for a white artist to cover a song by a black songwriter, for example. "Racist" used to be a shocking word, and now I think people are increasingly just filtering it out. It's background noise.

Actually I’m beginning to think @DebbieSavage is a shitposter from rightwing Twitter come to provoke us all into discussing white identity by trotting out every tired cliche used to deny white people the right to defend our interests. Come on Debbie, admit it!

This can't be a serious post.

The agency care workers get £6 an hour more than the employees where my friend works, which makes me think that they might not need the agency staff if they paid their employees £6ph more.

Yep, definitely here to goad us on. You’re slightly jumping the shark now though, maybe reel it in a bit (to mix my fish-based metaphors).

I should have spotted it with the “oh goody, some new young men for my dating pool” post but it took me a while to catch on.

Debbie, you told us you have been married for 45 years. You haven't a clue what's going on in the "dating market".

Surely it has to be classed as a security risk to have so many foreign nationals seeking asylum.
How do we know they aren't going to turn on British people?
They are already guilty of many rapes and crimes against women but how do we know that they aren't a threat to the UKs security?

And look at how well Poland is doing in terms of GDP, employment, education etc. all better than the UK.

As someone with dual Polish and British nationality, I agree. I’m not sure if I see how the UK has benefited from the multi-cultural liberal approach.

As someone whose country was irrevocably changed for the worse thanks to immigration, I am always fascinated by threads like this.

Although I believe the tide is turning, slowly. Everywhere.

Plenty of people have suggested the Navy fires on the boats or in some way "fights" them. Usually when you sink a boat out at sea the people on it drown. So the drowning is inferred.
I agree, that people avoid actually using the word drowning, but thats just moral cowardice.

If not shooting on boats then what would be the preferred method to stopping them coming that isn't either stuff about making conditions "less luxurious" (so reducing the three meals a day to two or one presumably), sending them to El Salvador prisons? The only other solutions are things the UK government is already doing, or liberal left policies like openyup safer asylum routes.

I think so too, I think give it another decade and people won’t even be offended to be called racist anymore.

That’s not the case. The options that have worked in other countries don’t involve this, eg Australia. Also Ceuta recently.