To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

They should put the asylum seekers in Belgravia. Buy a few houses there and turn them into HMOs.

Exactly what I was going to ask

How many middle classes are there?

Illegal entry is always illegal in the uk.

Many nations don't even have the asylum systems and the right to apply for asylum. India for example isn't a signatory to the refugee convention.

Awww Debs, you've jumped the shark now 😂

The venn diagram approach you quoted is a bad faith argument.

They are immigrants within the extraordinarily complicated chaos that no amount of overlapping bubbles in diagrams can get a grip on.

You are pointing the wrong way at dishonesty.

She's actually a bit of a warmonger. With dating apps as a side hustle.

I agree with this. We need to look at why these people are choosing to ignore the safe countries they have to pass through to get here. I suspect it's because they can claim more amenities and benefits here and it's more pleasant. We need to stop that.
Where possible we need to stop the boats before they get here, but if they have to be housed it should be a Ww2 type internment camp policed by the army.
This country is not the rich power economy it once was. Charity begins at home
We need to get out economy up and running for the benefit of true British citizens.
At the moment we are not rich enough to play " Lady Bountiful" to a load of illegals.

It's interesting how much more stringent Denmark has become.

That's the big question what is the UK doing that is making it so attractive.

I actually believe most are economic migrants rather than true asylum seekers. Most should be returned to place of origin ASAP.
The tide will quickly stop when they realise few are allowed to stay.

I agree. I also live in a post industrial north east city, that is now seeing its demographic change due to mass immigration

They are desperate people fleeing war, famine and persecution.

Oh good grief 🙄

Haven’t read the thread. No I don’t think anyone should be making more room, enough is enough, are they ever intending on stopping this or are they going to continue spreading out the problem?
I am working class from a wc area. I’ve had enough. Spreading out the problem is not going to solve it.
HMO’s are destroying communities.

https://www.norfolk.police.uk/news/norfolk/news/news/2026/may/seven-men-charged-in-group-based-cse-investigationnorwich
This kind of news report doesn't help. All of these men charged are Afghan refugees.
Rape and human trafficking.

I didn't describe a Venn diagram. What do you think a Venn diagram is?

Perhaps you and @DebbieSavage need to have a chat as you are each telling us the opposite as to whether these men are going to be looking for relationships with British women.

I would say it’s pretty rare for large numbers of young men to move to a country without accompanying women and not hope to have relationships with women in that country.

If it’s legal migration - unless there is a tightening of the current rules (such as the manipulation of skilled visas to sub continent low skilled migrant workers who use that to gain entry) we are at the perils of needing change from those in legislative and parliamentary power.

I was specifically mentioning illegal migration which the key word is illegal meaning it’s criminal yet these white liberals who are so far removed from areas affected, welcome criminality with open arms.

One point, expect this has been made at some point in the thread, but presumably this is an admission that the who situation is a massive burden? I mean, no one seems to be aiming, selflessly to spread the joy of migrant HMO and brilliant diversity to the shires, do they? It more about, you can have some of this too, you posh sods.

It is an admission that no one really wants it at all, but especially in their own back yard.

Doesn’t understand pro-rata or pretends not to.

Debate pointless.

But who exactly are these “British women” you're talking about? Britain is a multicultural country. British women are Black, white, Asian, mixed race and everything in between.

I've been with my partner for 24 years. He's Black, British born, with Jamaican parents, and we have four British born children together. Interracial and intercultural relationships aren't some frightening new phenomenon brought about by small boats.

And nobody said that a young single man who moves to another country will never have a relationship there. Of course some will. That's entirely different from the bizarre suggestion earlier in this thread that we should be asking how these men are going to “take care of their sexual needs”, as though British women are collectively being lined up to provide the answer.

A consensual relationship with a woman who happens to live in Britain is not remotely the same thing as presenting male migrants as a sexual threat to British women.

And perhaps most bizarrely, some posters seem to be talking as though “British women” automatically means white English women. It doesn't. This is Britain in 2026, not 1950.

Clearly not. And any data not fitting the case is dismissed as dodgy. Fact free discussion. Pointless.

I just googled to see what areas had Green-run or Green-led councils, and there are only six. Four are London boroughs (Hackney, Lambeth, Lewisham and Waltham Forest), which are already densely populated (and were quite deprived, although they may have got more affluent since I left London), and the other two are Norwich and Hastings (aka most deprived town in SE England).

Then I thought that it might be better to do it by MP, but there are only 5 Green MPs. Three are in densely populated urban areas (Brighton, Bristol and Greater Manchester) and the other two are in North Herefordshire and Waveney Valley, so very rural.

I think it would be better to disperse refugees and asylum seekers more evenly acros the country. It would make it easier for them to integrate and mitigate the sense of being "overrun" or "invaded" that those who are against asylum seeker accommodation in their area complain about.

I object to Burnhams inference that we all need to pull together and share this as though it's a war or something the government cant change when in reality no one voted for this and it's the the result of this government (and the one before) being useless and not doing their basic job of protecting the border and keeping us safe. Many other countries don't have this problem as they deal with it robustly as ours could if they were competent. It makes me wonder why I pay tax for these wastrels in govt (or indeed why do I need to spend money on a passport?).

If there is no money to detain these men, then maybe the government should bite the bullet, add 1p to tax and start building the fucking infrastructure to detain all the illegal immigrants until they can be processed.
There would not be many objections.

Labour have 3 years not to fuck this up.

Because claiming asylum is legal, it means anyone becomes legal as soon as they say ‘I would like to claim asylum’. They are only ‘illegal’ if their claim is rejected and they don’t leave, or if they are here without a valid visa and haven’t claimed asylum.

That is why the left say the boat people are not illegal, because technically, once they put in a claim for asylum, according to our legal system they are legal.