To agree with Andy Burnham that it’s about time the middle classes took their fair share

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/11/burnham-middle-class-areas-must-take-more-hotel-migrants/

Not a huge fan of Labour I must say, but this is well overdue!

We need to stop accepting "asylum seekers" and drastically cut immigration so that there are jobs, houses and resources for our own people.

Cut all foreign aid. All monies to be spent on building internment centres ( razor wire and tents ) on Salisbury plain or Otterburn army training areas. Nobody allowed out unless and until deportation. Leave the ECHR, introduce a British Bill of Rights in it's place ( only applicable to citizens of British birth ). Immediate and effective crackdown on the black economy ( vape shops, barbers,car washes,nail bars, all food delivery services).

That would be a start.

Ah yes, the food. I’m particularly excited about the Somalian restaurants we’ll be getting soon.

@olivepicanto i’m glad you didn’t have any trouble

One of those hotels brought us Mohamed Mirzai though I think?

Speaking of which, that brings me to another point… I don’t understand why they have to serve their sentence here before they get deported. It just leads to more delays and problems.

What would I find if I looked them up?

I didn't merely imply it, I said it outright with no ambiguity. I'll say it again if you like, absolute horseshit 😂

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/asylum-seeker-spied-naked-swimmer-36954581

I looked it up.

"Not really a big deal" as you said. "No issues"

Ah, thought so.

What does this potential “political suicide” look like? How does it compare to social and civilisational suicide? Like importing what you seem to suggest could be infinite numbers of young men from cultures with completely different values to our own at huge speed. With unknown and unpredictable consequences in terms of clashes between different value systems/religions, lack of the civilising effect of women on these young men. Throw in a good dose of racial animus against white people (because of our ancestors “sins” - even though other races did similarly - it was Africans who sold other Africans to European slave traders for example). How’s this all going to look in a few decades time?

Obesity doesn't happen without essential skilled worker visa help from poor immigrants to cook and ferry food to the doors of the starving middle classes. Think of their stomachs won't you.

A lot are housed in London, including in my middle class area. I can't say it bothers me at all. It is the entire asylum system that is not fit for purpose. I don't hold it against the individuals.

I notice Andy isn't planning to move asylum seekers from London to Manchester as part of his levelling up plans. Maybe he doesn't think that would be so popular with the northern voters he is trying to get back from Reform.

I didnt mention modern day India

I mentioned Bangladesh and Pakistan. But the underlying reason is the same.

Decolonisation wasn’t a clean break. It left behind institutions, language and education systems shaped by Britain, alongside borders and political structures that affected the early development of these states.

Over subsequent decades, migration created large Bangladeshi, Pakistani and Indian communities in Britain. Those communities created family, social and employment networks that make Britain a more accessible destination for later generations. Shared language, historical connections and established communities are all recognised factors influencing where people choose to migrate.

History doesn’t dictate an individual's decision, but it helps explain why these migration routes and connections exist in the first place.

The majority of migrants from all three countries are students, with the next highest group for India and Pakistan being work visas. They are helping top up university budgets with their overseas fees and filling roles we can't fill with non-immigrant citizens.

oh give over will you.
That was 100s of years ago. The situation we are dealing with today is very different, with increasing numbers of people arriving through illegal routes and serious concerns about crimes committed by some individuals.
Why do you think there is so much concern from the government around the publication and transparency of crime statistics involving immigrants? If we are serious about tackling illegal migration, we need to be willing to consider bold measures, including offshore processing and a fundamental reassessment of our ECHR membership.

To answer the OP’s question — no, I don’t think the Government should be placing asylum seekers in areas where local communities have consistently expressed strong opposition to the current immigration policy. If the Government is going to pursue this approach, there should at least be greater consideration of where the policy has public support, rather than disproportionately placing the impact on communities that have voted against it. Conservative areas shouldn’t simply be expected to absorb the consequences of policies they didn’t support, IMO.

I don't know if I'm MC or not, but my problem with the wording is that it's as if he's saying I've denied the migrants housing. I vote Labour, unless strategically required to vote otherwise to advoid right wing groups gaining power. We're socialists in my house. Never once have I been asked to vote on whether immigrants, asylum seekers, etc., can live in my area. I am not denying anyone. I'm voting for a party and then getting on with my day. If he's saying they need to build some housing in my area, crack on, this is not something within my power to sort out.

Just to add @BlaiseAnais94 you seem to feel we have a responsibility to take any immigrant who wants to come here because of our past actions and meddling in other countries. So you don’t seem to believe the effect on our country and our citizens should be of any consideration. If they want to come, it is our duty to take them. By this logic, the number of immigrants we should take is only limited by how many wish to come. The population of Pakistan is 260 million. The current population of Africa is 1.59 billion, and growing fast. Can you see where I’m going with this?

@BlaiseAnais94 but you did mention the partition of India?

On this thread at least, I don’t think anyone is objecting to long established communities.

it sounds like you’re saying that’s a reason why Britain might be targeted by those who choose to come in by falsely trying to claim asylum? I’m not convinced but happy to agree to disagree.

i’m going to bed now, so I’m not ignoring you, but it looks like we’ve been discovered by a very alarming troll anyway….!

Low lives from a culture that treat women as chattels?

I don't feel like we have a responsibility to take in every single immigrant who wants to be here and have not said that at all. But, we do have a responsibility as people to highlight where echo chambers are whipping up a frenzy and those with short memories fail to accept the countries responsibility for it's past.

People migrate here either here on work visas and are therefore required to do a job noone in the country can or will do, are on a family visa and supported by someone earning enough to do so, on a student visa paying higher fees that allow British citizens to pay less, one of the much smaller numbers on other visas including those tied to historical ties or seeking / given asylum.

Those are the ones that we do have a moral responsibility to accept when they meet the requirements for asylum. And the rest overwhelmingly have an economic benefit for us.

Only about half asylum claims are accepted. And they account for 10% of the total population growth in the past 10 years.

As for causing social and civil unrest due to clashes in culture and the like. Yes, there will be instances of immigrants, both legal and illegal commuting violent crimes. However, the overwhelming perpetrators of violent crimes in this country are white men and there are increasingly worrying Incel movements affecting young men and boys attitudes to women.

The violent clashes caused by Britain first style marches caused by certain media outlets whipping up a frenzy, funded by right wing lobbyists, has been far more concerning and damaging to this country in the past few years than asylum seekers. If you are concerned about civil unreast the call is coming from inside the house.

OT but it’s Somalis not Somalians.

Lots of 'left' voters are middle class - almost everyone i know in fact. What are you on about?

The illegal isn't helpful to who, exactly? My friends daughter was in charge of a hotel where these illegal immigrants were housed. There was trouble from day one, assaulting the cleaners , taking furniture, trying to sell it, constant complaints about the food, lack of money, demanding better clothes than they were given,the list goes on & on. I was in shock, a country has taken them in, feeding them , putting a roof over their heads etc, absolutely disgusting behaviour. I am so sick of what it is costing the british taxpayer. Meanwhile homeless people don't even get a look in....

That's all you've got 🤣🤣

the trouble has come from the "protesters". And by "protesters" I mean those with the DA records who stalk and taunt women. The fine upstanding protectors.

you lot are really clutching at straws.

Why would you think I'm a troll? Because I'm not contributing to the echo chamber?

The post mentioned British India and it's partition which is not the same as modern day India.

Although, the underlying reasons for why someone would immigrate from India or Bangladesh to the UK are ultimately the same, the overall immigrant profiles are not.

Alot of posters are using migrant, asylum seeker and illegal (immigrant) interchangeably and it isnt clear if we are still just discussing asylum seekers or all types of immigrants.

I'm not saying anyone on this thread does have an objection to the longstanding communities, although I don't agree that is the case. This thread is alarmingly similar to the discussion and news of 2024 when we lost a large number of skilled and very much needed migrants due to the increase in rascist attacks caused by echo chambers like this one.

Yup yup they are.
I think the only ones who believe it mind are those trotting out the line, everyone else can see through it.