For leaning over and quietly having some very harsh words with a stupid 16/17 year old chav in covent gardens?

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We took DS 2.6 and his little friend 2.3 to London yeaterday and we sat them to watch a little street show in covent gardens. There was a group of girls sat next to ds and friend and all the way through this one girl must of thought she was being clever was shouting "your shit" "your crap" "fucking get on with it then" ect. I didn't say anything at first but then I went behind her and wispered in her ear "listen you stupid little girl, You either piss off or shut up, there are children next to you and if I hear 1 more swear word come out of your mouth I will give you somthing to fucking swear about."
I said this nice and quitley in her ear so no one else heard it and it shut her up straight away was ibu?

pmsl you tell someone to stop swering......by swearing at them. talk about double standards.
16 is still a child. well imo anyway.

well done

I'm afraid I once had a fit at a young girl in a park. She and her friend were playing football tennis over a fence dividing infants' from big kids' playground. Ball games not allowed. Didn't tell them to stop - but asked them politely to move along so they weren't doing it right behind my 2-y-o daughter on the swings. One girl started moving away, but the other gradually moved them back so they were right behind DD again (in an empty bloody playground!). Needless to say the ball hit my daughter. The one who had tried to move away had kicked it, but it was clearly the others' fault. I really lost it, since I had already asked nicely. I kicked the ball out of the park, and screamed at the original girl that she was a vile little child and if this was how she behaved to other she should expect a wretched, friendless, jobless life. She threatened that she was going to get her big brother. her big brother duly came - turned out to be 14 about a foot and a half shorter than me. He took one look at me and ran away. I felt bad. But good.

12/13. I know I was wrong to lose it with her. I didn't swear, but I did rant. But I had asked nicely, pointing out the risk of the ball hitting my DD. Which it did. In the head. On a swing. It was a hard leather football.

See I find that more threatening and abusive allfalldown than telling some gobshite teenager off for swearing,totally different situation imo

PMSL

What would you have done if someone kicked a football into your child's head, then, poshwellies, if you had already politely asked them to move along, explaining why you were asking them? She was testing me, seeing if I'd dare do anything. She deliberately positioned herself in the position of maximum danger to my child in an empry playground. She thought a middle-class dad would run a mile from estate kids ... I'm not proud of it, but equally I'm not that ashamed.

Yep. I went over the top. But she wasn't thoughtless; it was all quite deliberate - that's the point I keep trying to make.

I BET this thread ahs degernerated intot he sue of the word chav

(goes off to read)

does htis remind anyone of my dh on the plane thead?

AllFallDown was 100% right. No threats, no swearing, and the offensive weapon duly dealt with (ok, football kicked away). He'd asked, then asserted some common sense whilst standing his ground.

Big salute due. Now I'm trying to think of something witty using the phrase Fish Wife

Good for you!there are too many softys out there that put up with this kind of behaviour, that said there are also many decent people who have suffered standing up for good morals !

in reponse to op

NIIIIIIIIIICE wd you v. brave

We once went camping for Whitsun to a very nice 'family based' campsite. This was not a party on down campsite, and they had 'quiet time' from 11 at night to 7 in the morning.

A large group of families camped opposite us, kids were fine through the day and early evening. The lads were all in one tent and the girls in another.....all fine. At midnight they were screaming 'goodnight' at each other and making stupid noises. they were teenagers. Their parents were all fairly pissed and were ignoring them.

I put my shoes and coat on, and took my torch. I shone my torch through the side of the nearest tent and said, very loudly and clearly, 'This isn't my campsite and it isn't yours either. You are making noise deliberly to wind people up, and it is quiet time. I have two kids in my tent who can't sleep. They will be up at six tomorrow morning, and if you don't shut up, right now I will get them to play outside your tents and scream and wake you up, and see how you like it! So shut it NOW.' I turned off the light and walked back to the tent.

Silence reigned and the next day the whole row of campers thanked me.

It takes a village to raise a child. If they step out of line, you have to tell them

I was once on a crowded train in Amsterdam after the football and there were hundreds and hundreds of yobs supporters on the train. One of them (teenager) decided it would be fun to let off one of those horns-in-a-can (iyswim) in the crowded bit of the end of the carriage where you have to stand. Very, very noisy. I said to him with my best foreigners' accent on in Dutch, very sarcastically, "ooh thanks, I needed that for my headache". He didn't know how to respond (sarcasm isn't really a big thing here) but his (much taller) mate did say something to me. I genuinely didn't hear what he said so I asked "what did you say?" expecting a repeat performance of whatever hilarious rock'ard comment it was. My jaw dropped when this 6'5" bloke actually blushed and didn't dare repeat what he'd said

So this is a tactic I have up my sleeve these days. Normally I'm rubbish at this but as someone else said earlier - 99 out of 100 times people will back down when you challenge them about their stupidity/antisocial behaviour when they know they're being stupid/antisocial. It's just the real asbos you have to worry about.

MB was this on one of your fave campsites in Holland?!

no, this was in the New Forest

But MB, that wasn't a threat or swearing.

Surely that's the point here.

YES, we, as adults, should stand up to gobshitey teens(children), BUT with maturity not stooping to their level, nor confirming that acting aggressively and rudely is The Right Way To Act.

Those saying 16 isn't a child, the OP has guessed the age, she could have been a grown up looking 13 year old, it's a guess, what if she was 15? would it still be alright or does something magical happen on your 16th birthday to make you change??

I was actually quite scary. Very cold, quite chilling and the torch thing was there to give them a shock.

You can't fart around, of they see it as weakness. Hence there were no 'pleases' or 'thank yous' in what I said. I wasn't asking them. I was telling them

well, I think your first step should have been to ask her politely in a normal voice if she could stop swearing as thre were little children about.

Teenagers often just don't have any real awareness of who is around them. They tend to be quite self-absorbed.