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AIBU to refuse to cut short our holiday for childcare?

553 replies

UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 12:20

This is not our problem ???

We are on holiday currently with our 2 dc (2 and 4) (Disney Paris) due back home on Wednesday. Dh has 2 older dc from previous marriage (6 and 8).

He gave his ex money for holiday childcare which she ‘forgot’ to book the first week so I had to look after dc which was fine as dh had work. Next week her mum was going to have the dc but is now unwell. She is telling dh he needs to come home early to have the dc as she can’t take the time off.

She is constantly messaging and calling and we are considering just turning our phones off if she continues pestering us this way.

This seems to be a regular thing with her not arranging childcare and then expecting us to rescue the situation which we try to accomodate if we can but this is the first time we’ve said no.

OP posts:
BudgetBuster · Yesterday 15:04

Franklinlove · Yesterday 14:57

Since when is 2 4 6 8 a really big age difference?

It is at the likes of Disney where a 1yr old and an yr old will want to do vastly different things (for lastyrs trip). It's a lot of money to spend as a family to end up with kids pissed off half the time.

Jellycatspyjamas · Yesterday 15:04

MeganM3 · Yesterday 14:21

I don’t think your responsibility as a parent is paused just because you are on holiday. When you are a parent you need to be able to cope with emergency situations or changes of plan. So it isn’t ideal, be HE as their father may need to come home to ensure that HIS CHILDREN are minded.

Why? He paid for childcare for them, on time that she was planned to have them. So she drops the ball and he’s obliged to pick up the pieces every time? Different if one of the kids had an accident or were seriously unwell but she just didn’t organise herself, she didn’t even need to find the money to pay for it.

MiaKulper · Yesterday 15:05

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 14:42

So it doesn’t add up that a woman would have an affair and leave?

It would be unusual but not impossible, but the story doesn't add up and there are no other posts from the OP other than on this thread.

Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 15:05

nomas · Yesterday 12:48

And my bingo card is complete with the ‘package deal’ comment.

OP has clearly explained why the dc got separate Disney trips. DSC went last year with dad and they’ll get a holiday this year with dad as well so they haven’t missed out.

Literally! I couldn't pay my 17 year old to go on a Disney trip with a 4 year old.
Dad and stepmother are doing just fine. Dad had a special trip that was focused on the older children, and will have a holiday with all his children later.
It's no-one's fault the mother is incapable of arranging childcare, which the man has also paid for. It's no-one's fault her mother is unwell while he's away.
She's going to have to figure out this adulting with children business.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 15:06

Gymnopedie · Yesterday 15:00

And the Misandrist of the Year award goes to...

Men have affairs. No shit Sherlock. But to do so they need someone else to have the affair with. Most of the time that will be a woman. Ergo women have affairs too. QED.

And who's to say the affair started during Covid? It may have started before and she was just waiting until she'd had her husband's baby to leave.

From what OP has said it certainly started before she became pregnant otherwise there wouldn’t have been the need for a paternity test.

FookFookFook · Yesterday 15:06

bitmiffed26 · Yesterday 14:57

Can you get past him not taking the younger ones last year when he took the 6 and 8 year old?

As I’ve said a hundred times no! He was wrong then, he’s wrong now.

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 15:09

MiaKulper · Yesterday 15:05

It would be unusual but not impossible, but the story doesn't add up and there are no other posts from the OP other than on this thread.

So OP is a first time poster? Everyone has to start with one post. I’ve been on MN a while and never made a thread.
It’s also not unusual, it happens quite a lot but for some reason you want the man to be the bad guy

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 15:09

FookFookFook · Yesterday 15:06

As I’ve said a hundred times no! He was wrong then, he’s wrong now.

Why is he wrong ? Given that his ex and her partner have no obligation to take the younger two on holiday with them (and clearly don’t) even though they are half siblings to their own kids, what makes OP and her DH obligated to take all four every single time ? If anything it’s OP kids who are losing out on holidays when it actually comes down to it. Her step kids are getting the best of both worlds.

itsgettingweird · Yesterday 15:10

Funny how the dad is getting stuck for not taking his 2 eldest this year.

But not for leaving his 2 youngest at home when he took them last year.

And the OP is getting stick for her DH not taking them this year not being recognised for parenting a baby and toddler alone last what do her DSC got a holiday with their dad to Disney.

Just turn your phones off. She has taken money for childcare she didn’t boom and now wants you to spend more to cut your holiday short.

When you get home talk to the mum about having the children resident with you as she’s struggling with organising them and they can go to her for visits.

Im sure once she’ll suddenly start to manage.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 15:11

MiaKulper · Yesterday 15:05

It would be unusual but not impossible, but the story doesn't add up and there are no other posts from the OP other than on this thread.

So what ? She’s a first time poster. What’s the point of MN if we’re going to doubt the veracity of every OP ?

InterIgnis · Yesterday 15:13

YANBU, OP.

I see no issue with not taking all, on any, children on every holiday either.
For whatever reason she’s trying to disrupt your holiday and/or get more money out of you.

You don’t have to block her, but perhaps you can mute her and periodically check in, in case of an actual emergency.

Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 15:14

Didimum · Yesterday 13:57

2 year gap between his youngest with her and your eldest? Goodness, this is a ripe scenario for issues. Not great.

No, I don’t think he should come home from holiday early for this.

I missed the age gaps. Some people seem to enjoy complicated and unnecessarily drama ridden relationships 🙄 .

MiaKulper · Yesterday 15:14

@Coconutter24 , I've no idea if she is or not but I suspect she is watching the replies with a big bucket of popcorn.

Coconutter24 · Yesterday 15:17

MiaKulper · Yesterday 15:14

@Coconutter24 , I've no idea if she is or not but I suspect she is watching the replies with a big bucket of popcorn.

Or she is in Disneyland Paris distracted from the post by having a nice time with her children

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 15:21

isthisaplum · Yesterday 14:59

It is. There are six years between the youngest and the oldest. Think about what your average two year old can do developmentally and your average eight year old.

I have a five year old and a three year old and even that small age gap can sometimes feel quite overwhelming. And four children is a lot for anybody.

I think it’s a good point. I think people who have a number of children that’s more than 2 sometimes forget to look at the difference between the youngest and eldest rather than just each “step” between the children.

PinkEasterbunny · Yesterday 15:22

My personal view is that your husband came as a package deal, which you knew about when you got together with him, whether that was whilst he was married or not. You shouldn’t be excluding them from any holiday whether they went last year or not. So I think both you and your DH are BU!

Well that’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it, but it’s not the point of the thread.

Distressedbuttrying · Yesterday 15:22

UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 12:31

Dh has them 10 days /nights per month

What a star.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · Yesterday 15:22

KitsyWitsy · Yesterday 15:01

They often have affairs with younger, single women.

Of course women have affairs too but not usually with very small children.

I knew a woman who not only had an affair when her three children were aged six, four and two, she went on a musical tour with her husband and arranged for her lover to go along to be one of the other people involved in that tour, and waited until they were in Germany, and had a dozen more gigs he couldn't avoid, to tell her husband that she was moving out of his bed and into that of the roadie and would not be coming back to the marital home at the end of the tour. She dumped all three children shortly afterwards and her husband brought them up on his own; at least he managed to hang onto the house he'd paid for. (A lot of their friends rallied round and helped him, to be fair, because he needed to earn enough to pay for their keep. He succeeded. My hat was off to him, many times.)

Some women are not very nice people. Sometimes the men they are with are nicer than they are. I know this is hard to credit, but it's true.

Copperoliverbear · Yesterday 15:23

I would not go home she’s kept the money for childcare I presume.
she can take the time off or look for a childminder if the play centres are full. I would not let her manipulate me, trying to emotionally blackmail you because of the children.

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 15:24

UnhealthierWhy · Yesterday 13:47

I’m not pissed off at all with dh.

I absolutely do like holidays without my stepchildren and I like holidays with them too. I can have both and why not !

We both want to turn phones off but both feel equally uneasy just in case there’s ever any kind of emergency.

Is there anyone else that she can contact if there is a genuine emergency who can then contact you?

You could then allow this person to get through when you put your phone on do not disturb.

isthisaplum · Yesterday 15:32

I do kind of think ‘turn your phone off’ is a 2006 answer.

You’ll want to take photos and videos, pay for things, check your bank balance, check in with one another (where are you / over by the ice cream stall) sort of thing.

PinkEasterbunny · Yesterday 15:34

Distressedbuttrying · Yesterday 15:22

What a star.

Men can’t win, can they? If they have a 50/50 arrangement, they get accused of trying to get of maintenance but any less than 50% attracts criticism too

Mrcollinswave · Yesterday 15:35

Absolutely no way are you cutting short your holiday!! Your husband gave her money to book childcare so what's she done with that

SweatySpider321 · Yesterday 15:39

No, l wouldnt in these circumstances. She needs to organise herself better. I also get a vibe of sabotage off her

neversaynever9281872 · Yesterday 15:44

I don't normally agree with step parenting threads, she is being bonkers.

I do not agree with you admitting you don't want them included on ALL holidays. They were there before YOU. Regardless of if their mother cheated or not.