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AIBU to think an Edinburgh festival show about Meredith Kercher's murder should be stopped?

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VivienneDelacroix · 06/08/2026 01:04

Aibu to think that this show at the Edinburgh Festival should be cancelled? It mocks the circumstances around the murder of Meredith Kercher and serves it up as entertainment.

Not only is it horribly disrespectful of Meredith's family, but it also belittles the issue of violence against girls and women.

Meredith's siblings are calling for it to be pulled from the festival. There is also a petition calling for it to be stopped.

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11AndCounting · Today 00:09

BlackRowan · Yesterday 23:42

I remember I just moved to the UK recently then so had no experience with British press. The press coverage was absolutely shocking. I was just stunned.

it all seemed incredibly unprofessional and none of the theories of prosecution made any sense.

Absolutely.

The British media is far more culpable than Knox when it comes to the suffering of the Kercher family and - if it did factor into the decision of Knox to perform in Edinburgh - would completely justify it.

Staggeringly, they persist in their misogynistic, sensationalist vilification to this day. A Daily Mail headline from yesterday:

Is there anything 'Foxy Knoxy' won't do for attention - or money?

Cagoenlaleche · Today 00:29

11AndCounting · Yesterday 23:57

is the opinion of many that just because Knox accused the police of hitting her it must be true
I don't think that's an honest statement of anyone's position.

My own view is that I believe the allegations on balance, because of the policy's overall conduct - human rights violations, astounding episodes of calculated dishonesty, and an illegal refusal to investigate the allegations (ensuring there could never be any evidence).

Indeed, had the police not carried out their interrogation illegally, there would be conclusive evidence, one way or another.

But there is no evidence. It's just your opinion.

11AndCounting · Today 00:42

Ignoring for a moment that the allegation (and denials) are actually evidence....

I have been extremely clear that there is no evidence capable of proving (or disproving) the claim, and that I am offering an opinion.

What do you think your "that's just an opinion" posts add to someone offering their opinion?

Why are you misrepresenting other people's opinions as being "because she said it it must be true"?

Do you not see anything contradictory in advancing your own speculative opinions then dismissing contrary ones as "just an opinion"?

Cagoenlaleche · Today 05:38

11AndCounting · Today 00:42

Ignoring for a moment that the allegation (and denials) are actually evidence....

I have been extremely clear that there is no evidence capable of proving (or disproving) the claim, and that I am offering an opinion.

What do you think your "that's just an opinion" posts add to someone offering their opinion?

Why are you misrepresenting other people's opinions as being "because she said it it must be true"?

Do you not see anything contradictory in advancing your own speculative opinions then dismissing contrary ones as "just an opinion"?

We're veering into word salad territory now. There is no evidence, just an allegation. That's just a fact.

11AndCounting · Today 06:02

The allegation is evidence (witness testimony). You yourself said as much:

"The accusation of physical violence was not proven. No evidence except Knox's accusation."

Everyone agrees there is no other evidence.

We just have different opinions on whether the allegation should is likely to be true or untrue.

In your head, you think your opinion has validity, but persistently dismiss everyone else's as "just an opinion", which is extremely obnoxious.

11AndCounting · Today 06:12

Incidentally, whether you believe it or not "I dont believe it could have happened because a European wouldn't hit an American" is some of the most laughable "reasoning" I have heard in my life.

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:15

I’m fascinated at how utterly convinced, to the extent that one would almost think that some of these posters were present at the night of the murder, that AK is not only wholly innocent in every respect, but that she 100% deserves to now do essentially anything and everything she darn well wants, without consideration of anything or anyone, to make up for her wrongful imprisonment.

Genuinely… I’m fascinated. Did the case really pique your interest, for example @AsHot ? Do you know anyone involved? Or is it just that you have a huge amount of time on your hands and so spend a disproportionate amount of time campaigning for her?

Oh… and any of her supporters on this thread planning on going to watch her at the festival????

Lexibletheflexible · Today 07:12

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:15

I’m fascinated at how utterly convinced, to the extent that one would almost think that some of these posters were present at the night of the murder, that AK is not only wholly innocent in every respect, but that she 100% deserves to now do essentially anything and everything she darn well wants, without consideration of anything or anyone, to make up for her wrongful imprisonment.

Genuinely… I’m fascinated. Did the case really pique your interest, for example @AsHot ? Do you know anyone involved? Or is it just that you have a huge amount of time on your hands and so spend a disproportionate amount of time campaigning for her?

Oh… and any of her supporters on this thread planning on going to watch her at the festival????

Edited

I listened to a podcast that explained all the evidence against her and it was clear there there wasnt any. She was an idiot in many ways, but not a murderer.

Before that, I had only really read things in the media and by Merideth's family.

What makes you think she is guilty of murder? What evidence in particular?

user1471460024 · Today 07:34

YABU. She is a free woman. Regardless of what happened she has a right to tell her side of the story. Her show is fully sold out. I tried to get tickets myself as I live in Edinburgh. This is the type of show we need. I feel so sorry for her and I wish her all the best in her future. X

SpaceRaccoon · Today 07:38

Cagoenlaleche · Yesterday 23:53

Raffaele Sollecito did acknowledge having a personal passion and collection of knives and swords when questioned by authorities. During his early cautionary arrest hearings and statements to magistrates and investigators, he mentioned that he had collected knives and unsharpened katanas (swords) as a hobby since he was young. 1, 2]

Is there are more reliable source than a rather salacious tabloid article from the time?

ThatJadeLion · Today 07:41

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:15

I’m fascinated at how utterly convinced, to the extent that one would almost think that some of these posters were present at the night of the murder, that AK is not only wholly innocent in every respect, but that she 100% deserves to now do essentially anything and everything she darn well wants, without consideration of anything or anyone, to make up for her wrongful imprisonment.

Genuinely… I’m fascinated. Did the case really pique your interest, for example @AsHot ? Do you know anyone involved? Or is it just that you have a huge amount of time on your hands and so spend a disproportionate amount of time campaigning for her?

Oh… and any of her supporters on this thread planning on going to watch her at the festival????

Edited

👏👏👏 💯

DistantEarlyWarning · Today 07:42

Cagoenlaleche · Yesterday 23:48

Noone has told Knox to go away and shut up. It's nearly 20 years since MK was murdered. Knox has been free for a long time. Is she going to be touring about this in her 80s? How many books and movies? It's just too much imo.

Noone has told Knox to go away and shut up.

So, what does It's just too much imo mean, if not that you think she shouldn’t go away and shut up?

11AndCounting · Today 07:43

I believe the Supreme Court got it right when they determined that it is all-but impossible that she could have been involved in the murder in any material way. An extraordinary decision akin to "innocent beyond all reasonable doubt".

The prosecution theory was so absurdly deranged that it would be comical were it not for the real world consequences. It is widely considered one of the most inept investigations of modern times for a reason.

It was motivated by misogyny, Satanic-panic, a pathetic man's fragile ego, and allowed fantasy to override basic common sense and competence.

It further demonstrated the appalling misogyny of the media (particularly in the UK and Europe) and the related pitfalls of the Italian legal system: that it does not sequester it juries, encouraging the authorities to fabricate evidence and feed it to the media to get a conviction - as they did here.

For my money, when you consider the scope of it and the bodies involved, it may be the most outrageous misogynist campaign of my lifetime. Genuinely akin to a 16th century witch trial, but on a scale exponentially larger.

From that baseline, I find attempts to silence the victim to be both outrageous and dangerous and - without wanting to disclose anything about me personally - feel professionally obliged to condemn what happened to Ms Knox, and grateful to her for speaking out (particularly where she has afforded catharsis to other victimized women).

I will not have the opportunity to see her show (though I'd be interested were it local to me). I've never consumed any of her other media - I review enough actual court materials and academic commentary that I generally avoid "true crime" as a genre of entertainment. Honestly, I think the "true" crime genre is often far more problematic than Knox's show sounds to be, but that's a separate thread.

11AndCounting · Today 07:43

SpaceRaccoon · Today 07:38

Is there are more reliable source than a rather salacious tabloid article from the time?

There is, it is factual.

AsHot · Today 07:47

Cagoenlaleche · Yesterday 23:45

The second part was obviously an opinion. As it is the opinion of many that just because Knox accused the police of hitting her it must be true.

Yes, it was. Which is why you don't have any business telling other people who are expressing opinions to fact check. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

DistantEarlyWarning · Today 07:49

DistantEarlyWarning · Today 07:42

Noone has told Knox to go away and shut up.

So, what does It's just too much imo mean, if not that you think she shouldn’t go away and shut up?

Should, not shouldn’t. Damned autocorrect.

ThatJadeLion · Today 07:57

It's amazing how many people would want to support the show of a convicted criminal just one year ago.

SpaceRaccoon · Today 07:58

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:15

I’m fascinated at how utterly convinced, to the extent that one would almost think that some of these posters were present at the night of the murder, that AK is not only wholly innocent in every respect, but that she 100% deserves to now do essentially anything and everything she darn well wants, without consideration of anything or anyone, to make up for her wrongful imprisonment.

Genuinely… I’m fascinated. Did the case really pique your interest, for example @AsHot ? Do you know anyone involved? Or is it just that you have a huge amount of time on your hands and so spend a disproportionate amount of time campaigning for her?

Oh… and any of her supporters on this thread planning on going to watch her at the festival????

Edited

The case really piqued my interest at the time, and I always thought she was innocent. I kind of identified with her, as another awkward fucker who was quite a daft, unboundaried young woman who not everyone took to.

Growing up somewhere religious and conservative, I also recognised the batshit satanic panic stuff and the misogyny.

I thought the prosecution was absolutely perverse and salacious, and the general public lapped it up. They WANTED it to be true, it was far more interesting than the reality of what really happened. They wanted a young woman to vility, and details of a group orgy murder. It was gross, tbh.

Cagoenlaleche · Today 08:01

DistantEarlyWarning · Today 07:42

Noone has told Knox to go away and shut up.

So, what does It's just too much imo mean, if not that you think she shouldn’t go away and shut up?

Some posters won't acknowledge the pain of Meredith Kercher's family. Some are even accusing them on this thread of creating this furore, of seeking attention. Knox has been proven innocent and had many years to publicise and discuss how badly she was treated. Her books and films are available in perpetuity. She is performing in Edinburgh right now and will probably continue to do so elsewhere. It is in my opinion in very bad taste to create entertainment out of it, but she can certainly not claim to have been silenced in any way.

ThatJadeLion · Today 08:03

Cagoenlaleche · Today 08:01

Some posters won't acknowledge the pain of Meredith Kercher's family. Some are even accusing them on this thread of creating this furore, of seeking attention. Knox has been proven innocent and had many years to publicise and discuss how badly she was treated. Her books and films are available in perpetuity. She is performing in Edinburgh right now and will probably continue to do so elsewhere. It is in my opinion in very bad taste to create entertainment out of it, but she can certainly not claim to have been silenced in any way.

Many people feel the same way.

AsHot · Today 08:12

Itchysidefoot · Today 06:15

I’m fascinated at how utterly convinced, to the extent that one would almost think that some of these posters were present at the night of the murder, that AK is not only wholly innocent in every respect, but that she 100% deserves to now do essentially anything and everything she darn well wants, without consideration of anything or anyone, to make up for her wrongful imprisonment.

Genuinely… I’m fascinated. Did the case really pique your interest, for example @AsHot ? Do you know anyone involved? Or is it just that you have a huge amount of time on your hands and so spend a disproportionate amount of time campaigning for her?

Oh… and any of her supporters on this thread planning on going to watch her at the festival????

Edited

Funny that you've only highlighted a poster who's been on a lot who holds a view you don't like, and didn't feel the need to comment on the motives of frequent thread users who believe she's guilty and/or shouldn't be performing. Perhaps people who agree with you are proportionate by definition?

But in case you missed yesterday's posts, what with you being brand new to the thread and all, it descended a bit and we were specifically told to focus on the subject of the thread, not to speculate about people's motives for posting and identities (there's a button at the very top of the thread where you can click to see all MNHQs posts). As it was verging on weirdo territory, I'm not going to share personal information.

DistantEarlyWarning · Today 08:23

Cagoenlaleche · Today 08:01

Some posters won't acknowledge the pain of Meredith Kercher's family. Some are even accusing them on this thread of creating this furore, of seeking attention. Knox has been proven innocent and had many years to publicise and discuss how badly she was treated. Her books and films are available in perpetuity. She is performing in Edinburgh right now and will probably continue to do so elsewhere. It is in my opinion in very bad taste to create entertainment out of it, but she can certainly not claim to have been silenced in any way.

I understand that’s how you feel and of course you’re allowed to express that feeling.

But that’s not what my reply was about.

You seemed to be saying that no-one is trying to silence her, whilst suggesting she should be silent. So people are trying to silence her, including you. Be honest about it.

ThatJadeLion · Today 08:27

Cagoenlaleche · Today 08:01

Some posters won't acknowledge the pain of Meredith Kercher's family. Some are even accusing them on this thread of creating this furore, of seeking attention. Knox has been proven innocent and had many years to publicise and discuss how badly she was treated. Her books and films are available in perpetuity. She is performing in Edinburgh right now and will probably continue to do so elsewhere. It is in my opinion in very bad taste to create entertainment out of it, but she can certainly not claim to have been silenced in any way.

Exactly. Acknowledging Knox’s acquittal doesn’t require people to approve of how she continues to publicise and monetise the case. She has books, films, interviews and now a live show.. she has quite clearly not been silenced. People are simply entitled to find it distasteful and to consider the continuing impact on Meredith’s family.

Outside of what you said I also want to remind people who weren't aware that yes, she was acquitted of murder, but she was not cleared of everything. Her separate criminal conviction was upheld by Italy’s highest court in 2025.

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